#PayFrenkie
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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This isn’t the saga that’s dragged the longest by a long way yet (though it’s heading that way)
But has a saga ever been caught on “fee agreed” for so long? That was reported last Monday…
But has a saga ever been caught on “fee agreed” for so long? That was reported last Monday…
The club agreed to the contract mate
Hasn't he already taken 2 pay cuts already?
How would you feel if you just took a huge pay cut to stay at the club, then the club go and sign someone on massive wages after telling you they're in dire straights financially and need you to reduce your wage asap? After taking 2 cuts already and being owed a whole crap ton of money, i'd feel pretty pissed off and betrayed to be fair
If the agent pictured with Malacia isn’t the one who brokered the deal then what’s he doing there then… #FreeFrenkie
Cetinkaya and Dursun work for the same agency (HCM Sports). The one pictured with Malacia is Dursun, this is Cetinkaya:
Was discussed when Larpote and team we're live on youtube during the Barca meeting and vote on the economic levers, maybe there is a replay on youtube
The club agreed to the contract mate
Yeah and he fecks over the club, the fans etc, putting it's future into doubt because he won't leave and won't accept a pay cut that could potentially save the club from financial crisis. Answer this honestly...would you take that approach if you played for United? If they said "we want you to stay but we simply can't afford your wages. Will you take a pay cut along with the other players? If you don't then we'd unfortunately have to sell or else we risk severe financial consequence".
You're giving me the
but you struggle to understand a simple point. I'm not saying it will be the case, but if it's true that they will keep him if he takes a pay cut then I guarantee he will consider it. Why stay at a club you apparently love and dreamt of playing for if you financially ruin the club and everybody, including the supporters, hates you because of this.He's a perfect target but we genuinely couldn't have chosen to deal with a bigger basket case of a selling club. Frantically pulling levers like a crazed scientist in a shlocky horror film while we look on wondering what they're playing at
The only club out there that makes us look sensible and we're all-in while they try cutting every corner to get themselves out of years of self-inflicted failure. They're a ludicrous club and we're now bound to the madness.
The only club out there that makes us look sensible and we're all-in while they try cutting every corner to get themselves out of years of self-inflicted failure. They're a ludicrous club and we're now bound to the madness.
Soon to be a similar photo
So after all the "Dursan got sacked by Malacia because twitter told me so, he must be at Carrington regarding de Jong", it was regarding Malacia afterall?How on earth is any of this his fault. Barcelona has shown a clear pattern of sheer incompetence and financial disregard. You're absolutely wrong and also deluded if you think otherwise.Yeah and he fecks over the club, the fans etc, putting it's future into doubt because he won't leave and won't accept a pay cut that could potentially save the club from financial crisis. Answer this honestly...would you take that approach if you played for United? If they said "we want you to stay but we simply can't afford your wages. Will you take a pay cut along with the other players? If you don't then we'd unfortunately have to sell or else we risk severe financial consequence".
You're giving me the
Fecking Barca with their dramas.
He deferred payment for two seasons. I suspect he will still see some of that but not all, if he were to stay. If the club was open and honest then I would do whatever it took to help and make myself a hero to the supporters. I certainly wouldn't feck them over like some are suggesting. The problem wasn't caused by Laporte, he is trying to help sort them out. I would be open to talking to him if I were in his shoes or the roles were reversed and I was getting paid £100k's to pay for the club I love.
Yeah and he fecks over the club, the fans etc, putting it's future into doubt because he won't leave and won't accept a pay cut that could potentially save the club from financial crisis. Answer this honestly...would you take that approach if you played for United? If they said "we want you to stay but we simply can't afford your wages. Will you take a pay cut along with the other players? If you don't then we'd unfortunately have to sell or else we risk severe financial consequence".
You're giving me the
It's worth nothing that Barcelona is actively signing new players in the mean time, so it's hard to blame any "putting future in doubt" on Frenkie...
They have, under a previous regime. Laporte is trying to sort their problems out. All I am saying is that, if he loves it there so much and wants to stay, as he has said, then I don't think it's impossible for him to stay. You're talking with an outsiders perspective, I'm sure if you put yourself in his shoes, being a multi millionaire, playing for the club you love, you would see the potential for him to stay.
I wouldn't mind but he's going to earn less if he moves here anyway, if the figures that have been mentioned are true. Isn't that a factor?
This saga...
As discussed here, it is Laporta fault
Laporta didn’t know how La Ligas FFP worked and put them right in it. The financial mess belongs to the previous boards but the current problem is all Laporta. Apparently Laporta decided to write off a lot of assets as zero when he didn’t have to and walked right into this. The ballon was trying to be as every bit creative as the previous board and got found out.
You truly believe Laporta is trying to sort the problem of de Jongs wages out?
He wants him out so he can use the money and salary freed up to sign players like Raphinha and Lewandowski. Thats pretty plain to see. Yes he's going to say he's doing all he can to keep him, he has too, the fans dont want the club losing their best players, though from the sounds of it, they're not arsed if de Jong goes. Still all he sees is his reelection chances taking a hit if he says his best players are for sale.
They'll all likely sit down and Laporta will put an offer to de Jong and his agent that he KNOWS de Jong won't take. Therefore his side of the bargain is done. He "tried" to keep the player, but he obviously didn't want to stay. he can spin it then that de Jong wanted the money and not the "glory and privlidge" of playing for Barca.
If Xavi truly wants to keep him, then yes, I do believe that. Xavi said he wants to keep him. Xavi played him a lot last season. Therefore I believe they want to keep him if possible.
If they can sign players like Lewandowski, Raphinha etc then I think they obviously have a way, or soon will, of creating the finances to pay players. He might have to take a cut, it depends on what they can offer and how much he wants to stay. That's all I'm saying.
Does anyone take her seriously?
Sexist pig
I've read the tweets and the explanations given in the Reddit thread and all sounds reasonable. They moved amortization forward, took the hit now to have a fresh start. They did some creative accounting to make the figures look healthier to help generate more money, "killing two birds with one stone" as somebody said.
I'm not a financial guru, but what they're all saying seems solid. Is there something I've missed?
Pocco so desperately wants him to stay. Really strange.
I believe he starts preseason tomorrow.
This ones now become a saga. Hopefully he's the 3rd or 4th signing with Martinez/LCB after Malacia and Eriksen.
Leaving a right winger and striker til last.
Everyone would accept 6 signings I think.
Only glaring miss would be not getting a CDM but maybe ETH thinks he can use Fred and McTominay in that position.
CDM saga can wait til next summer as much as I'd like one now.
Leaving a right winger and striker til last.
Everyone would accept 6 signings I think.
Only glaring miss would be not getting a CDM but maybe ETH thinks he can use Fred and McTominay in that position.
CDM saga can wait til next summer as much as I'd like one now.
Barca playing games again
How disrespectful can a club get? They're literally laughing.
He he's.
Ridiculous.
If they didn’t try to be clever they wouldn’t have fallen foul of La Ligas ffp. They didn’t know how it worked since it was so new and completely fecked themselves over. I’m not 100 percent sure of the numbers but I remember reading it was something like 250m of assets Laporta unnecessarily wrote off that has absolutely sunk them in terms of registering players etc. Thats all on him.
Still the same shite, with bunch of people with conviction he will join us vs bunch of people with conviction he won’t join us.
I actually don't. I just don't obsess over certain players so much. I'll be pleased if he signs, I'm just filling the space by playing devils advocate until something happens either way.
But, I'm not FdJ or bust like some of you. I've seen that too many times and it never works that way. I'm sure we'll be fine if he doesn't join. If we were talking Ronaldinho or somebody absolutely top class then I'd be a bit more desperate probably.
What was his reason for doing that? Whoever advises them financially is surely accountable. He might have made mistakes, I don't know, but from what I can see he's taking steps to sort it out. Even if it means short term pain.
You are coming across as one of the obsessed ones in this thread tbh but in the opposite way.
So the hold up is he and his agent want his owed money and Barca are now starting their smear campaign where they paint it as how he and his agent didn't want to work with them and he didn't really love the club he was just a greedy mercenary
Barca wondering where his agent is, meanwhile he was at United's offices.
Barca wondering where his agent is, meanwhile he was at United's offices.
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On the surface of things it would seem like they pay no attention to them anyway
I’m guessing it’s some accounting trick to allow them to spend a bit more but it backfired spectacularly. I just don’t get his entire previous board bad, we’re just doing our best narrative. That’s a pretty big own goal from day one and even more incompetent imo. They have to sell future revenue just to operate as a club again so they can meet ffp requirements that this current board got them into. They didn’t sell that revenue for debt etc, it’s all for ffp
Barca forum also thinks they're trying to force him out.
pocco having an absolute mare here. Asking employees to take pay cuts is one thing, asking them to do it all the while bringing in new employees on big six figure salaries is absolutely damn right disgusting.
Let’s not even start considering the fact that certain players like FDJ have deferred pay checks for two years already and this is the thanks they get.
Pay your fecking employees and use the youth team to beef up the squad.
The player would not be to blame if he stayed put and demanded they pay him as per his contract; the club and the people running the club would be to blame for bringing in new salaries whilst they still can’t afford the current ones.
Let’s not even start considering the fact that certain players like FDJ have deferred pay checks for two years already and this is the thanks they get.
Pay your fecking employees and use the youth team to beef up the squad.
The player would not be to blame if he stayed put and demanded they pay him as per his contract; the club and the people running the club would be to blame for bringing in new salaries whilst they still can’t afford the current ones.
"But he loves the club so he should"
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