It doesn't matter if they need to sell or not. They will, because they do not see him as being worth his wages. He is expendable and not that important to their system.
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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It doesn't matter if they need to sell or not. They will, because they do not see him as being worth his wages. He is expendable and not that important to their system.
I would have been optimistic but this is the same club that waited the entire summer of 2020 hoping Dortmund would lower the price for Sancho because of Covid.
No one is paying that you numpties.
I understand the budget but we should do this deal last.
And they reduced the fee drastically.
A year later yes. That summer United panic signed Cavani and wasted money on Amad and Pellstri. Or in other words did not have a proper plan outside of Sancho so they wasted the summer
Seems like we succeeded in doing that, so what's your point?
No one's paying £68 million? I think that's a very reasonable price, utd should respect the valuation and put the offer on the table so they can move on to the next target.
No the price naturally lowered with reduced term on his contract by a year.
Panicked signed?
Yes imo Cavani was a last minute panic signing to appease fans that didn't work for obvious reasons
They're full of it. There are no other clubs seriously interested and United know it. This is just posturing. They'll drop their price and the deal will be done.
We shouldn't be breaking the bank for him in these troubled times. I'm not even convinced he's the perfect fit for our midfield. There is a reason Barca would rather prioritise young Gavi, Pedri and a 34 year old Busquets over him.
Its only Busquets who they are prioritising over him. Question is though who replaces him when he eventually retires.
The manager seems to think he would and would like to build it around him so I'll take his word for it
So? We didn't think he was worth the ridiculous asking price they put (wasn't it like €120m?), so what's wrong with not agreeing to pay that and wait a year or so?
Would be something if Citeh and them work out some sort of swap between him and Bernardo Silva..
It's all 3 because De Jong is expected to play higher up the pitch, no? And yes, even with question marks over Busquet's replacement, Barca are happy to see him leave. He isn't worth breaking the bank for. The last time we did that we got Harry Maguire for 80M.
But if we lower that to about 50-55 then we could sign another, like a Rabiot.
“Wasted” money on Amad/Pellistri.
we are well aware that FDJ is the perfect signing for ETH but we can't keep pissing around and miss out on other objectives to build the squad when teams around us are bringing in quality players
shocking amounts as well
The kind of posts I see every year that would have had us pay £60m for Varane, £110m for Sancho and £30m for Telles.
Yep. They're both shite.
We hold all of the chips in this saga. de Jong is not an absolute must for us, we will have alternatives we can get. Barca need to sell him. I'm glad we're not rolling over for once.
The reason is because Frenkie isn't a typical Barca player. He likes moving with the ball and roaming around. That role is typically done by the most advanced of the 3 for Barca, which isn't what Frenkie de Jong is a natural at. Even still, he's been among their best players every season, but they've been a bit of a disaster so it's hard to perform at your best in that anyway (as we know too well). He's best playing deep and having license to move forward (like Scholes liked to do). Barca with Busquets have a stable pivot who doesn't move. Pedri is a generational talent as the #8. So you're left with putting Frenkie as the most advanced ... And it's just not how you get the best out of him.
For United's needs, he's just about the best possible signing we could make for our midfield (as one of the 2 that are needed). If there were 2 dream signings, it would've been Tchouameni and Frenkie.
Rabiot. Good lord. We just got rid of a high maintenance virus, no need for another.64 million pounds should get this done.
Nothing. The thing we did wrong was to waste the whole summer chasing the deal when the deadline set had already passed whilst neglecting the other holes in the squad we needed to fix
List the clubs that will pay it knowing the options available and the wages on top of that?
It’s a very big deal to want a buying club to do.
If Ten Hag thinks he is then he is worth it
Yes wasted since we needed a RW and still do yet we used budget on projects who most likely wont play for the first team as regulars ever
Ten Hag isn’t God ffs.
I was arguing that paying £20 million for Telles with a year left on his contract was bad value for money at the time, understanding a fair price for a player is key and £68 million for FDJ is great value given how important he would be for the team and Ten Hag's system. If Barca wasn't in the situation they're in they'd probably be asking for £80 million plus for him. It's a fair valuation and I can't see them going lower, maybe a few million tops. To satisfy the manager and fanbase, and have the freedom to move on to other targets just pay up, £68 million is spot on for a player of his calibre.
We should offer 60m plus 10m if we win the CL 
He is the manager who has already implemented the system and already worked with the player. He knows more than anyone if he is worth is or not
He is our manager though, going after a world class talent who has performed at a top level for him before, in a position and role of need for us. So I'd say it's a pretty big deal targetting him.
The following summer.
There certainly is a reason. Barca are in massive financial difficulty and both players are younger, on less wages and don't have United knocking on the door looking to buy them for a boatload of cash.
If we also had two young players of the calibre of Gavi and Pedri you might have a point but we don't.
Well exactly. 'Our midfield' doesn't exist yet. EtH is trying to build a new one that can play his brand of football.
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