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Frenkie to United?


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More bullshit. There's no way we'd spend this long chasing a player who literally has to be forced out of the club via media leaks from his own club. It'd be beyond stupid to waste so much time.

You really don't think we're capable of such a thing? Given what we've experienced over the last 10 years?! Come on.... There isn't a more likely club in the world then us to do such a thing. Di Maria, Ramos... You must remember? There's probably many more.
 
Still expect this one to happen, but sadly this thread is one of the most negative muppet threads I've experienced in years. Some of you don't deserve a big day today.
 
How much would a €600M 25-year loan cost?



If Barcelona lowers the wage bill by 160M as they want there will be no problem with these agreements.

And in 4 years with the new Camp Nou will be generated about 150-200M more.
The €1bn is just the TV revenue. Surely the merchandise is at least that again. So a €600m loan over 25 years would not cost €2bn. Can’t polish a turd of a deal mate.
 
All this noise is coming from Barca… almost like they’re trying to get the highest price possible.

But my word, that tweet will be taken as gospel.
 
They’ve just made £700m, if the story is true.

They got dept between €1.3 - 1.6 billion. A lot of that dept is also internal dept, meaning employees.

The deal will also see them miss out on yearly revenue. It’s not selling a player or an asset you don’t need anymore. It’s a revenue stream they need.

They got high internal costs; €560m in player salaries.

So the money they made will help them short term, but they need to get rid of more dept. Selling players and reduce salaries is key. They got players for free in, but they will obviously also earn money. They also want to invest in new players.

Barcelona is in deep shit and must be very careful year after year to make things right.
 
Funny how friendly media is turning the narrative from 'we need to sell, the player has come around to the idea of working with ETH again' to 'Barca are in control, the player doesn't want to leave, we're just creating an environment where has to because we don't want him anymore'
 
More bullshit. There's no way we'd spend this long chasing a player who literally has to be forced out of the club via media leaks from his own club. It'd be beyond stupid to waste so much time.
We are an incredibly stupid, ineptly run football club though. Don't give us too much credit.
 
The source is Tier 1 for Barca news according to Reddit.
Most of these tweets are poorly worded translations though. He's saying it may not be economically necessary ( doubtful that's true) but Barca still want Bernardo which implies they still want to sell Frenkie. Nothing really earth shattering in that tweet.
 
All this noise is coming from Barca… almost like they’re trying to get the highest price possible.

But my word, that tweet will be taken as gospel.
Of course it will, only negative tweets are believed on the Caf.
 
So basically they still need to sell to rebuild the team. Otherwise they are stuck with De Jong and no new players.

Also the purchase of a Bernardo Silva would require him being cheaper than De Jong, which City will not do and are not desperate like us.
 
From what I understand selling De Jong was never saving the club, they needed that big injection to stay afloat. De Jong needs to go for footballing reasons, as they need money from his sale, or another big sale, so they can make changes to the team. So I don't get why people think that news about the 500m or whatever is a killer for this deal?

Unless I'm totally misreading it all.
 
Most of these tweets are poorly worded translations though. He's saying it may not be economically necessary ( doubtful that's true) but Barca still want Bernardo which implies they still want to sell Frenkie. Nothing really earth shattering in that tweet.

I posted the more positive (for us) translation in this thread but both translations I've seen tweeted in the transfer tweets thread. Wanted to spare the Muppets feelings.
 
I don’t think this means anything with regards to Barcelona being open to sell. What it might mean is that united opaque strategy that seems to come out of the same handbook every transfer, might need to change if we are going to sign Frenkie. What do Barca want for the player, can we get near it? If not, sadly we must move on quite quickly.
 
From what I understand selling De Jong was never saving the club, they needed that big injection to stay afloat. De Jong needs to go for footballing reasons, as they need money from his sale, or another big sale, so they can make changes to the team. So I don't get why people think that news about the 500m or whatever is a killer for this deal?

Unless I'm totally misreading it all.

The word has been for a while that Xavi wants to keep him and only accepts his sale for economic reasons. It's just whether they still need to sell for economic reasons but Laporte was recently saying this financial deal will change everything and allow them to compete in the market, or words to that effect.
 
From what I understand selling De Jong was never saving the club, they needed that big injection to stay afloat. De Jong needs to go for footballing reasons, as they need money from his sale, or another big sale, so they can make changes to the team. So I don't get why people think that news about the 500m or whatever is a killer for this deal?

Unless I'm totally misreading it all.

Correct. One sale would never help them out. One sale can help them reinvest in new players and salaries. Though, they should probably sell some assets in form of players and sit still in the boat for some time. They are a football club though and need new blood as everyone else.
 
The source is Tier 1 for Barca news according to Reddit.
Being tier 1 doesn’t mean that everything is true. It just means that it’s likely to come from the club or a well-connected source. So if the club were to plant fake stories or stories that they want put out that would increase offers from interested clubs they would also do that through tier 1 sources.
 
Andy Mitten, who has decent sources in Barcelona said yesterday that Barcelona cannot put anything more than the profits made off of player sales towards new players. That makes a lot more sense as to why they are dragging their feet in trying to make a profit off of this sale as FdJ is the only player they can afford to sell and also make that profit.
 
I don't see why everyone is seeing that ffpolo update as a negative? The subtext is fairly obviously that, whilst Barca no longer need to sell De Jong to help avoid financial disaster, they'd still be willing to do so in order to bring in Bernardo Silva.
He's NOT saying "the deal is dead" at all.

Feels like some users only want to see the negative in anything at the moment.
 
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