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Frenkie to United?


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Chelsea's 'Caf in meltdown' thread will have some absolute gems from this thread when he's competing with KDB for the best midfielder in the league with them lot
It really won’t. Their very own FDJ thread only had about 9 pages a couple of days. Grew by about 10 posts the day orstein said they were linked.
 
The bookies odds still worry me. They don’t get it wrong too often. :wenger:

Move to Chelsea is favourites at 6/5
Stay at Barca 5/2
Move to Utd 7/2
 
The bookies odds still worry me. They don’t get it wrong too often. :wenger:

Move to Chelsea is favourites at 6/5
Stay at Barca 5/2
Move to Utd 7/2

They definitely always make a profit but these odds are moving based on the money being placed and that fluctuates based on the latest rumours. They don't have any inside information.
 
The bookies odds still worry me. They don’t get it wrong too often. :wenger:

Move to Chelsea is favourites at 6/5
Stay at Barca 5/2
Move to Utd 7/2
Do they not?? I remember during the Pogba transfer to United, Zidane said something in his press conference and all of a sudden Pogba was odds on favourites to go to Real. Didn't happen that way though.

Betting odds are very easily influenced and it'll swing again should positive United news come out
 
They definitely always make a profit but these odds are moving based on the money being placed and that fluctuates based on the latest rumours. They don't have any inside information.
Very small market liquidity also means they are extremely volatile.
 
Thinking this doesn't make it true. Players are undeniably and invariably attracted to Champions League football. What's more, it's painfully clear that, as things stand, we are much less likely than Chelsea to securing Champions League football. They won it two years ago and had a goal difference like 40 goals greater than ours last season ffs. Ofcourse it's not the only thing, but IMO you are taking a giant leap of faith that Champions League shouldn't be a decider simply because you prefer it isn't.
Brownie is right of course. CL for one season will not be the deciding factor. But I agree with you that it is a factor, more so in terms of the coming several seasons. A player of FDJ’s calibre wouldn’t sign for, say, Brentford - regardless of the money - if he did he might never play CL again.

FDJ is chinless but also sensible and will consider the club’s prospects for success and for CL qualification (also, money, Londoniness etc) and we can always hope he has the foresight to look beyond one shit result, largely caused by the shit players he will replace (when he comes here).

And let’s hope that your gloomy assessment of our prospects turns out to be mistaken - if FDJ does come, we’ll be transformed!
 
Betting odds are basically aggregated so the bookie makes money I think, so the weighting of the bet changes the odds.
 
Brownie is right of course. CL for one season will not be the deciding factor. But I agree with you that it is a factor, more so in terms of the coming several seasons. A player of FDJ’s calibre wouldn’t sign for, say, Brentford - regardless of the money - if he did he might never play CL again.

FDJ is chinless but also sensible and will consider the club’s prospects for success and for CL qualification (also, money, Londoniness etc) and we can always hope he has the foresight to look beyond one shit result, largely caused by the shit players he will replace (when he comes here).

And let’s hope that your gloomy assessment of our prospects turns out to be mistaken - if FDJ does come, we’ll be transformed!

A good CDM and Frenkie turns United into a top 3-4 team. The defence won't leak goals and DDG will be a better shot stopped with the clowns that are McFred in midfield.

The issue right now is the glaring gaps left by them not being in the right positions. I think a RB will help and other players busting a gut to get back but the key central areas just ruin United every game.

The days of Rooney, Tevez and our forwards busting their asses to get back when they lost a ball is over for us.
Players and namely McFred the ones who are supposed to sit deep lose it or misplace passes don't do much and it invites constant pressure. Shootout to Bruno with little game management too.

Now when a player loses it, its like feck it, someone else's job ill jog nowhere.
 
Barca have a script ready for each day that's left before the 15th August. Let's see where this goes next.
 
A good CDM and Frenkie turns United into a top 3-4 team. The defence won't leak goals and DDG will be a better shot stopped with the clowns that are McFred in midfield.

The issue right now is the glaring gaps left by them not being in the right positions. I think a RB will help and other players busting a gut to get back but the key central areas just ruin United every game.
It's not quite as easy as that IMO.

There are still many issues to solve in the team
 
Come on Frenkie... if this isn't proof enough that you're not wanted and they'll do anything possible to get you out... then I don't know what is

People have posted it before, but Frenkie isn't really the one holding up a deal here, it's Barca. It's possible he's interested in a move, but to get the money Barca owes him he has to show he's willing to stay and ride out the contract. Barca just want to ship him out without paying him and are waiting until the last moment to see if Frenkie blinks.

If it comes down to Barca having to pay out Frenkie to leave so they can register all the players they bought they're going to have to do it. They're just holding out to the last minute to try and keep the €20 million euros they stole from him.
 
The bookies odds still worry me. They don’t get it wrong too often. :wenger:

Move to Chelsea is favourites at 6/5
Stay at Barca 5/2
Move to Utd 7/2

If anything, worth lumping on staying at Barca I reckon. Wish I'd backed a move to Chelsea about two weeks ago, but 6/5 is just way too tight.
 
The bookies odds still worry me. They don’t get it wrong too often. :wenger:

Move to Chelsea is favourites at 6/5
Stay at Barca 5/2
Move to Utd 7/2
They literally change at the drop of a hat :lol:
 
If anything, worth lumping on staying at Barca I reckon. Wish I'd backed a move to Chelsea about two weeks ago, but 6/5 is just way too tight.
Have you read the news today? :lol:

You can't lump on transfers anyway. They’re capped at fairly low amounts
 
It's not quite as easy as that IMO.

There are still many issues to solve in the team

I genuinely feel two players in those areas will save united dropping points, and even add draws into wins with a cdm and frenkie
 
A good CDM and Frenkie turns United into a top 3-4 team. The defence won't leak goals and DDG will be a better shot stopped with the clowns that are McFred in midfield.

The issue right now is the glaring gaps left by them not being in the right positions. I think a RB will help and other players busting a gut to get back but the key central areas just ruin United every game.

The days of Rooney, Tevez and our forwards busting their asses to get back when they lost a ball is over for us.

Now when a player loses it, its like feck it, someone else's job ill jog nowhere.
At the end of the day, whether Frenkie comes to United will be largely based on whether he believes in ten Hags vision for the future and whether he can convince him that his future will be better at United rather than at Chelsea.

He will have advantages at United as he will at Chelsea. Less competition at United for one. He'll literally be the star player instead of one player amongst many quality ones. He'll have a manager who knows how to get the best out of him too. He'll undoubtedly get paid pretty much whatever he wants (shouldn't but you have to imagine United will pay whatever he wants).

Yes He'll gave no CL this season, and Manchester isn't London, but if he can look past that and buy into the vision ten Hag has, I can't see why he wouldn't seriously consider it
 
So it seems Barcelona is selling Nico Goncales. It wouldn't be good for United.

 
I’m convinced Guardiola is the curse of this football club. Ever since he’s gone into management we’ve become shambles. Can’t wait for him to retire.

If we didn't have such disgraceful ownership and pathetic board maybe we could have actually entertained bringing on board those Barca lot.
 
I'm pretty sure we on here could influence market odds if we created a very believable rumour and it took off online. Really does mean nothing
We completely made up a Kaká rumour once when he was in his pomp. It made the papers as an exclusive and aggregators started adding inside source references and stuff. It was hilarious. Has to be in the classics surely?
 
If anything, worth lumping on staying at Barca I reckon. Wish I'd backed a move to Chelsea about two weeks ago, but 6/5 is just way too tight.

Put all your money on United. Frenkie is ours. Watch that space!
 
I think SMS is a smoke screen. I think we’re in for Rabiot, Frenkie and Arnautovic.

Even with those two surely we can do better than Arnautovic for a striker, sounds to me like Martial as first choice with him their to offer us something different.
 
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