I wonder if Ten Hag would be feeling betrayed by his former player if Frenkie goes back on his word and chooses to go to Chelsea before him
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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Yeah this was already posted. Problem is one looks more credible than the other
timesport and delaney are not reliable sources at all.
All this is just shit stirring.
There is literally no chance chelsc beat us to FDJ. Zero.
Stay the course muppets.
Not his fault we won't pay up. If Chelsea come in and pay what's needed why would he turn them down? It's definitely not united or bust is it
He's gonna flop at Chelsea, but gonna be great if United signs him so no worries.
When you accept assurances you make an ass out of u and rrances
I doubt that. If Chelsea interest has been known for a while then he'd have known that there was a possibility that they'd come in.
If it was a yes until Chelsea came in, then we'd have backed out when they started making moves. We've not done that as of yet
London isn't sunny at all. It's warm, unbearably so because of all of the pollution and smog trapping the heat.
I love going there because it usually means I'm about to hop on the Eurostar or about to catch a flight to take me somewhere nicer.
We've already agreed a fee with them.
If anything, barca might be trying to drive a fake bidding war.
a few minutes off the M25 - I used to play there before Abramovich bought the whole place and chucked us out!
Exactly. Well, unless you consider that journalists may have ways of getting info, then there is proof that we have bid but also that he prefers Chelsea and wants CL football. Let's face it, as a football decision it's a no-brainer right now. We have a way to go to rebuild our reputation just yet. Simply hiring a new manager won't cut it, we've been here numerous times already. He probably hears shit from LVG about how we are run also.
Wouldn't work. We'd confirm Chelsea interest in 30 seconds by calling his agent.
It’s obvious we’re watching our money this summer. The 17m extra takes this deal to almost 100m, I don’t think we could afford it knowing we need a striker/right back.
It’s easy to sort out, I bet Barce pay him x amount of what’s owed and Chelsea cover the rest with a hefty signing in fee.
This would be the biggest transfer kick in the nuts of all time if he goes to Chelsea after all this. My head says that ETH wouldn't still be pursuing this if he didn't think he'd come and that Frenkie would have enough respect for him to let him know that so he doesn't waste his time... But the battered fan in me is really fecking nervous that he's going to Chelsea.
But we wont pay the deferred wages they owe. Woodward would have stepped in and resolved this by now.
You say that like it's not in the agent's interest to drum up a bidding war.
I'd imagine we already have assurances that FDJ will join us and for a certain wage packet.
Hence why we've already gone and agreed a fee with barca.
So unless they reneg on previous arrangements, then I doubt we have anything to worry about.
Its no coincidence that we have already bought Malacia who also is under the same agent as Frenkie.
The same with Lindelof and Van De Beek.
You wonder why both are still at the club?
I don't think it's an issue for this player. He's the number one target.
Yeah and a monumental setback for Erik's rebuild
I’ve given up on this transfer, but the Chelsea interest will likely be good for us. Club won’t want to be beaten to his signing by them so may do more to get it over the line. Obv won’t matter if he decides to stay or has his heart set on London but it will make us try to move the needle a bit more for sure.
So was Antony and that ain’t happening.
Interesting actually. He wanted Timber, Antony and FdJ and will probably end up with none.
Awful.
Legally, I'm not sure we are allowed to do that. This has been talked about before in this thread.
Morally, that sets a terrible precedent and also doesn't look great for us.
Wouldn't blame him for walking if that happens.
This thread is moving so quick, we just getting old tweets at this point
Antony is not the number one target. De Jong is clearly.
in a world with state owned oil clubs and dodgy agents, you want to play moral and fairBan him.
We're watching our money way too much at this point. Unless we have deals agreed already, clubs are only going to start raising their asking prices as the transfer window draws to a close and there's a higher chance we'll end up overpaying for mediocrity.
It'll work out ok if we do get FDJ. I really don't want to imagine a scenario where we don't and then pay 60m for Neves/Tielemanns and then go after st and rb targers and get ripped off by selling clubs because the transfer window is about to end.
Said this before but I have no idea what people mean when they say ‘legally’ it can’t be done. There is nothing to stop a) united increasing the transfer fee offered to help Barcelona make a deal with Frenkie or b) United paying a sign-on bonus or inflated wage to the player to make up for the lost wages
Though it is Alvaro Morata TV for a second. Which would be a logical step for him at this point in his career tbf.
Can't see us doing either
The issue isn't having the clubs pay the deferred wages, necessarily. Ben Jacobs reported that Barcelona is asking for a slightly lower total fee from Chelsea for de Jong (€80m total vs. the €85m total that we agreed to pay). Chelsea will only progress on this deal if they can get a guarantee that de Jong will join them, and given the previous reports about de Jong preferring a CL club, they stand a better chance at doing so than we do.
You're asking us to pay a significant amount of money (£17million+) because another club is refusing to pay for their debts. It opens us up to getting further exploited in future transfers, which then has further repercussions financially. Sometimes you need to take a hard stance. We've done what we would do in any other transfer, which is made the correct enquiries and put in an official bid, which has already been accepted.
Still believe we'll get FDJ but the muppet in me will give up when the "it's embarrassing for the club" votes go past the "it's a matter of time, he's ours" votes
So athletic and now the times saying he prefers Chelsea. Anyone in our camp?
Until an offer is made and accepted, nothing really to get excited about. We are like the girl that puts out at an all male college. We are chatting with everyone this transfer window and telling everyone about it. It is weird and new.
Yeah worryingly Whitwell, Ducker & Luckhurst have really gone to ground today
@Berbaclass fell? Dark times...
United can't really do much more. They've already come to an agreement with Barcelona, so it's not like offering more money to them will help. United's problem is that de Jong wants his money before he joins us. As I mentioned a while back, with Chelsea, though, it might be a different story as they're in the CL, so I wouldn't be surprised if de Jong forgoes some of the money to join them.
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