That's actually shocking.
The margain should be much bigger because football is coming home.
Final: Italy vs England
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The margain should be much bigger because football is coming home.
The England Germany game was originally going to be in Dublin. The Irish backed out last minute due to covid and Wembley stepped forward.
I don't see how the Italians should win; England will overpower them like they did with the Danes. The Italians will be gassed after max 70 minutes and there is always the chance to score at set pieces. Could be tricky if Italy manage to score the first goal, but even then I'm confident that England is able to turn this around in the late minutes. Plus the Wembley advantage. 3:1 for England
Not as unfair as the teams that got to play no games at homes. Denmark benefited with that against Wales. Amsterdam was practically a home game, also.
It is just a rubbish setup, to be honest. I think only one or two teams maximum should get to play at home.
As a unit Italy is better than England. People underestimated Spain, which in the last two days has caused people to underestimate Italy.
Spain with Harry Kane would win this tournament. Bloody hell Spain with Danny Ings would win this Euros. They're just lacking a striker. Italy being dominated by Spain doesn't mean Italy are bad. Italy are a quality team.
We go into the final, in my opinion, as underdogs. But that suits us. Italy will try and monopolise possession. I think we can low block and use counters to our advantage. It won't be easy but I feel like we have a good chance.
Spain with Harry Kane would win this tournament. Bloody hell Spain with Danny Ings would win this Euros. They're just lacking a striker. Italy being dominated by Spain doesn't mean Italy are bad. Italy are a quality team.
We go into the final, in my opinion, as underdogs. But that suits us. Italy will try and monopolise possession. I think we can low block and use counters to our advantage. It won't be easy but I feel like we have a good chance.
I have Italy as slight favourites, but there appears to be an irresistible momentum pulling us forward and we have by the far strongest depth. Could see this one going to ET too.
We get one lucky penalty and suddenly we rely purely on having UEFA in our back pocket and the refs are totally bent in our favour 
RAWK level shite, how can some of you not be totally embarrassed.
RAWK level shite, how can some of you not be totally embarrassed.All non-England fans since last night:
Hook it to my veins.
Hook it to my veins.
Football is diving home.
Kane fouled the guy before coming to the box. Would've been a pen otherwise.
The Italians are a well drilled outfit and this will be the toughest game for England. If England are to win it, they will have to win the midfield battle. This is where the Italians create most of their goals from, with defence slitting passes.
I'd be embarassed by claiming nothing happened and excused that for the Maradona goal tbf. It's quite simple, do you think the Danes are getting a peno for that?We get one lucky penalty and suddenly we rely purely on having UEFA in our back pocket and the refs are totally bent in our favour
Italy going for the holy grail...a Euros and Eurovision double!
You saw the foul for the free kick that they scored from, right?
It will be an ugly game. I just hope we get the job done before pens. I cant handle another one of those.
You mean the 30 odd yards out fk right?
Sorry, I thought we were talking about fouls being awarded.
Yes, the one that he dived to win
I LITERALLY said we got a lucky penalty, it was a dive. I think they probably are yeah, going by how fouls have been awarded at this tournament. How is it the morning time and you're still raging
go to bed again.The danes got their share of soft fouls. Also, 21 fouls from the danes and just a single yellow card. They were technical fouling us all night and getting away with it.
The freekick that resulted in their only goal was an absolutely nothing foul.
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Look it was a dodgy pen. I'd be fuming if that we knocked out of the semis with a pen like that, but at the same time, I've seen those given all the time.
Man even I don't like or agree with most of England usually but I'm still behind this team. Some right bitter lemons all over the forum
Seeing Liverpool, City, Chelsea win leagues and CLs (not you City!) and then England win a major tournament is possibly my worst nightmare as a football fan. Happy for the English fans on the Caf of course but for my sanity I'm going to have my fingers crossed for Italy.
However I think England with the Wembley fans behind them will win this 2-1 in 90 mins.
However I think England with the Wembley fans behind them will win this 2-1 in 90 mins.
Raging? Ever had a dictionary in your hands?I LITERALLY said we got a lucky penalty, it was a dive. I think they probably are yeah, going by how fouls have been awarded at this tournament. How is it the morning time and you're still raging
It really isn't. Between two relatively evenly matched teams, the one with home advantage is usually considered the favourite.
And yes, England and Italy are relatively evenly matched. England's attackers are better, Italy's midfield is better, they both have quite good defences, and both keepers have apparently all sorts of problems with kicking the ball to a teammate this tournament.
Italy have played the better football this tournament, overall, but they aren't some all-conquering superpower that you lot make them out to be. They struggled massively against Austria and were completely outplayed by Spain.
Mm. Italy have the better midfield, but our attack is damn sight better at finishing than Spain were.
We need Southgate to show his brains here and be clever. He should have been planning for Italy from the second France went out.
I do believe, but this is going to be the toughest game he's had has our manager by a million miles.
It's probably for the best the semi wasn't a walkover, I think this team needed that headache.
I do believe, but this is going to be the toughest game he's had has our manager by a million miles.
It's probably for the best the semi wasn't a walkover, I think this team needed that headache.
If you're raging, you're ragingRaging? Ever had a dictionary in your hands?
Yes I am obviously. Couldn't sleep at night because two teams I have zero affilations with played the game.
I didn't say you were. I meant it more philosophically
But. And here is my biggest worry. That midfield of rice and Phillips on the ball is a million miles away from spains who kept the ball from Italy. Up until Denmark gassed they were getting passed around by Denmark
Yeah I see you
The joys of colloquial talk on a written forum, everything seems more extreme!
The last time we met in a competition there was loads of trouble in town. Large numbers of England fans and large numbers of Italian fans obviously don’t go together, at least not in the sport of football. Safe to say I’ll be enjoying (enduring) the final at home.
Precisely. 'salt salt!' 'raging'. When in reality you sit bored at your office and just post the objective truth about the game haha.
We get one lucky penalty and suddenly we rely purely on having UEFA in our back pocket and the refs are totally bent in our favour
One awfull penaltydecision that made you win your semi. Everyone knows that Denmark had won the shootout with Schmeichel against Pickford.
I think the game is set up for an ultra defensive England for the first 70 minutes, until Italy get tired and we bring on our superior bench. The game will depend on whether Italy can break through our midfield enough times in that first 70 minutes or not. After that our substitute attackers will be too much for them to cope with.
Defenders: Both sides have excellent centre backs, probably the best in the competition.
Fulls back: all are very good and could cancel each other out. Spinazzola is a big miss for them, can an Emerson who cant get a game for Chelsea cope with Walker and Sancho? But on the other side Shaw will have his work cut out with Lorenzo and Chiesa.
Midfield: Italy will dominate us here. I was disappointed with the way Denmark were able to bully us and run straight through our midfield, and Italy with Verratti, Jorginho and Barella are a whole different ball game. We have to plan for them to control the midfield because Rice and Phillips just aren't good enough. We can't let a team as good as Italy run at our centre backs the way Denmark were able to.
Forwards: Chiesa and Insigne are good but are they good enough to beat a back four as good as ours? Plus, quality drops off quickly on their bench. We have better players but i dont expect us to do much until we bring them on towards the end. I think that will be where we win the game, if we do. Chiellini and Bonucci are great players and can manage a pacey attacker, but four of them with the pace and agility of Grealish, Sancho, Sterling and Rashford is just too much, especially with fresh legs late in the game.
Strikers: Chiellini and Bonucci have dealt with far better players than Kane over the years and Immobile will be no trouble for Maguire and Stones. I don't expect much from either side's strikers.
Defenders: Both sides have excellent centre backs, probably the best in the competition.
Fulls back: all are very good and could cancel each other out. Spinazzola is a big miss for them, can an Emerson who cant get a game for Chelsea cope with Walker and Sancho? But on the other side Shaw will have his work cut out with Lorenzo and Chiesa.
Midfield: Italy will dominate us here. I was disappointed with the way Denmark were able to bully us and run straight through our midfield, and Italy with Verratti, Jorginho and Barella are a whole different ball game. We have to plan for them to control the midfield because Rice and Phillips just aren't good enough. We can't let a team as good as Italy run at our centre backs the way Denmark were able to.
Forwards: Chiesa and Insigne are good but are they good enough to beat a back four as good as ours? Plus, quality drops off quickly on their bench. We have better players but i dont expect us to do much until we bring them on towards the end. I think that will be where we win the game, if we do. Chiellini and Bonucci are great players and can manage a pacey attacker, but four of them with the pace and agility of Grealish, Sancho, Sterling and Rashford is just too much, especially with fresh legs late in the game.
Strikers: Chiellini and Bonucci have dealt with far better players than Kane over the years and Immobile will be no trouble for Maguire and Stones. I don't expect much from either side's strikers.
I literally couldn't have imagined a better summer than this, if England win on Sunday. I was in euphoric daze for weeks after the CL final win, and now we're one game away from winning the fecking euros.
Setting up to be a fantastic final. England are the favourites, but it could go either way. Curious to see, whether Saka starts again as he was poor for two straight games. For Italy, the biggest question is if they stick with Immobile or switch to Belotti.