True words right there.
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True words right there.
Not a good situation to be in, isn´t it?
Its beyond ridiculous. I can barely comprehend it, yet alone put it into words.
He'd be a good signing. Personally, I'd like Adnan in a central positon to add that creative spark. Some are down on fellaini but we need someone like that. We're much to soft. A midfield trio of Carrick Fellaini and Adnan/Anderson/Cleverly would be a big improvement.
No youngsters, no Anderson, no Cleverley, no Fletcher, just sign Fellaini and be done with it.
He was playing behind the striker. Which meant he took more risks in passing.
That is a ridiculous thing to say.
and people think he could replace Carrick?
He also conceded he most fouls in the PL. He's not good enough.
Like the skank bitch you drag into the motel at 1:25am, let's just get this over with.
How on earth are we able to bring in a class keeper, class defenders, class wingers and class strikers but not be able to bring in a class central midfielder? How the feck did it come to this?
That said, depth behind Carrick would not be a bad thing and I really do believe our young mids are gong to shock the world this season.
How on earth are we able to bring in a class keeper, class defenders, class wingers and class strikers but not be able to bring in a class central midfielder? How the feck did it come to this?
That said, depth behind Carrick would not be a bad thing and I really do believe our young mids are gong to shock the world this season.
No idea, but it's been an obvious problem for about 3 years and has never been fixed.
He had that same possession in the season he played in midfield.
And as a forward last season I can't see why he's giving away so many fouls - the most in the league.
We had doubts over Carrick, when he came here. People were rightly saying he couldn't replace Keane. He hasn't, but he still has done a very good job. No reason why Fellaini can't do the same.
There is a massive gulf in terms of potential and skill between Carrick and Fellaini, so I dunno about this comparision. They are not even comparable player types.
He's only 25, plenty of time to adapt his style of play.
Really?
Carrick was decent, but nobody ever said he was going to be world class or something like that. He couldn't get in the England team for some reason. Only last season did people really start to appreciate him.
Fellaini is a decent player and would improve our team currently.
It is certainly possible. Hell, I have seen how a mediocre 25 years old striker and right winger was turned into a world class RB, so as far as I´m concerned anything is possible in football. I just don´t rate it as very likely.
Not really, if he was 20 maybe but at 25 I doubt it.
It was Fergie's black magic. Now that he's gone, our midfield will get outrunned even more
Fergie or no Fergie, our midfield has been getting 'outrun' for years now. Its only the brilliance of the rest of the team that's kept us winning trophies over the last few years.
It was getting outrun but somehow SAF utilized the team in that way that we were still good even with a poor midfield. I doubt that Moyes can do anything remotely the same. Now without SAF, I think that our midfield will look even poorer.
I have absolutely no qualms about Fellaini fitting in here. Apart from his hugely underrated ground game the man is a very dangerous threat in the box not to mention just as good defending set pieces. He has lots of premier league experience and not being the focus of the team like he pretty much is at goodison would be to his benefit. Would he be my perfect signing, no, but would he do well for us absolutely. I can picture him now twatting a ball in the top right corner with his headmuff in Moyesy time in the quarter final of the CL.
We are sadly screwed this season if this midfield crisis isn't resolved in the next couple of weeks. I'm not keen on Moyes but I'd really like him to be given the best start as possible and he can only do that with a functioning / half-decent midfield. It's a total shambles at the moment. We've got very tough games and it'd be a pretty horrible start to life for him if we drop points against Chelsea, Liverpool and City. Swansea away won't be easy either. Had we secured our signings earlier and played them in our pre season games we could have been going into the season with a lot more confidence than we currently have. Obviously I don't blame Moyes at all but it's vital we sort something out asap.
We'll see no quarter finals unless something is done.
Why not? All he has to do is reign in his temper a bit. He's really underrated on this forum.
Sadly this is true. Even if we can deal somehow with EPL (a bit more difficult without SAF but still very achievable) we will get fecked in Europe with this midfield we have. Fellaini will give us a good option, but Fellaini or no Fellaini, Europe triumph seems a bit far at the moment.
I think he's overrated by even being linked with us but it's a game of opinions after all
He didn't do a great deal last season due to injuries, no. But we didnt win everything the club would have wanted to and this next season is going to be a lot harder than last year when City and Chelsea disappointed. What we had this year is unlikely to be enough for european success and scoring some more goals from set pieces wont make up for that.
Correct, last season he was. But he had the same passing accuracy. 79% the season before last as a DM, behind Osman, Drenthe and Neville for Everton...
You can't compare passing when you have the movement of Rooney, van Persie etc - compared to what Everton can offer. If Carrick played for Everton - his percentage would be a lot lower. Juan Mata had a 85% accuracy at Chelsea - is he not good enough then ?
Very harsh on Everton. They've had some excellent passers under Moyes.
Pretty sure he was playing behind the striker season before last too. Didn't he play behind the striker in the 4-4 game, when he bullied us.
I'm not saying he'd be the perfect signing. But I rather have him than nobody.
That's all well and good but do you remember each and every pass he made? Because I don't. However I don't remember watching Evertons highlights, seeing Fellaini unable to pass 5 yards. The fact is, stats don't always tell the whole story.
It's quite conceivable we could ask something different of the player and his stats improve. That's not opinion, it's a fact.
79% is quite ordinary for a central midfielder.
Our midfield requires something a bit more than 'ordinary' to strengthen it enough to help us compete with other elite teams. Fellaini isn't what we need.
Mikel Arteta's passing stats for everton
08/09 79%
09/10 83%
10/11 83%
While playing for Arsenal last year he had a 92% success rate and he was brilliant for Arsenal. There's no logical reason to suppose Arteta can make the step up but Fellaini can't is there in terms of keeping the ball.
What about Fellaini is better/more suited to us than Luiz Gustavo, considering he will also be a lot more expensive?
Arteta is a much better passer of the ball and technically miles superior.
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