They're both CM's and there are two CM spots at United. Though he's obviously nothing like Cleverley in style, they'd certainly compete for position and hence the comparison.
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They're both CM's and there are two CM spots at United. Though he's obviously nothing like Cleverley in style, they'd certainly compete for position and hence the comparison.
Seeing some reactions around the web to the possibility of signing Fellaini, it almost is enough to make me really hope we do sign him just to watch some heads explode.
I don't really get it, i'd be delighted.
Or alternatively, there are plenty of scenarios in which both play together.
There's such Schadenfreude in here; people wanting United to sign players purely to revel in the reaction of those against the signing. There's a post like this one right here on almost every page.
Obviously. How does that mean that they cannot be compared though?
Yeah but some of it comes from some of the over the top reactions I have seen at various places around the web, it does make one wonder what they will do and say if he actually is signed.
I love Paul Scholes but he didn't do any of those things for us last year. He was still our best passer but he didn't play enough for it to even matter.
I don't understand the "he'll be a good signing as long as we also sign someone else" way of thinking.
Either he's a good signing or he's not. Why is it dependant on other signings?
Either he's a good signing or he's not. Why is it dependant on other signings?
Basically, if we were to only sign one player he wouldn't be anywhere near most people's first choice option. Fabregas/Modric/Thiago is what most people wanted with someone like Fellaini there as cover for Carrick or possibly being used when we need to be more defensive.
Indeed, it's a bit weird. I don't want Fellaini whether we get Fábregas, Modric or if we grow our own Scholes clone. It has nothing to do with other players, it has everything to do with my opinion that top clubs who wish to challenge for the CL shouldn't employ central midfielders whose only job is to be a nuisance to the opposition and to "get stuck in" (how I hate that phrase). A defensive midfielder at a top club should be a lot more "refined" than that.
This really says it all.
Probably Veron, and we all know how that turned out.
Was looking at the thread in MU Forum about the best players and defenders we have had, very few of them were big money signings or considered 'world class' when we bought them - says a lot.
Djokovich is a fan.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
I suppose the thing with Fellaini is that whilst he probably won't progress us in europe he will undoubtedly make us stronger in the league, even if it isn't as big a step up as we would like. With Moyes coming in, it's probably unrealistic to think we're gonna be big contenders for europe anyway this season, the premier league looks like its gonna be even more competitive, you've got a potentially revitalised Chelsea and City have made some good additions, plus Moyes not having the experience of a title race. So I guess short of brining in a creative hub, Fellaini will help shore things up in the middle, providing the alternative to Carrick and a partner for him, particularly when we need some extra strength.
He's not my ideal signing, and I think we'll end up paying more for him than we should but I suppose in the short term whilst we look to ensure the league goes smoothly than he'd do a job. I guess you'd have to trust Moyes's judgement in whether he would fit in to our style and could play of kagawa well, as that would be quite important if Kagawa will be playing in the number ten role.
He's not my ideal signing, and I think we'll end up paying more for him than we should but I suppose in the short term whilst we look to ensure the league goes smoothly than he'd do a job. I guess you'd have to trust Moyes's judgement in whether he would fit in to our style and could play of kagawa well, as that would be quite important if Kagawa will be playing in the number ten role.
We'd be winning if he was on.
Out of interest, for anyone who wants Fellaini, do you see anything more in him then sheer physicality?
Can't deny that'd be useful in games against Stoke, West Ham etc, and would give us a 3rd player of quality aerial ability alongside whichever centre backs are playing, but against the quality teams it wouldn't be too great.
Or would it?
Can't deny that'd be useful in games against Stoke, West Ham etc, and would give us a 3rd player of quality aerial ability alongside whichever centre backs are playing, but against the quality teams it wouldn't be too great.
Or would it?
I can't believe people think Cleverley is better than him. I know who I'd rather play if they were on the opposition team.
I think so, but it's hard to get past the physical side of him. From a playing perspective his physical presence is a real plus even against more technically astute teams. PPlus, we're going to need something to counter Arteta's new eyebrows.
Yep, I'd want to play against Fellaini in CM every day - you just run him off his feet unless he's deployed as a screener in front of the back 4 in team happy to grind out a point (not that Moyes' Everton have managed much against top 4 home or away)..
First game of 12/13 season.
this reminds me of years back, someone said who would you prefer to play against, Duncan Ferguson or Dwight Yorke.
You'd come out battered and bruised against Ferguson, whereas you wouldn't against Yorke, but no doubting the much better player.
Does anyone think Fellaini could offer the dynamism and passing of Cleverley?
He has different qualities to Cleverley, maybe not as good at passing, but he'd definitely improve our midfield?
Dynamism?
Dynamism?
The word used was "upgrade" which implies replacement.
It just implies 'better'. It doesn't imply that they'll never play alongside one another. There are loads of differing styles of central midfielder and there's nothing wrong with comparing the overall ability of two midfielders of different styles.
I think most people are seriously underrating Fellani. He might not be a Fabregas/Scholes/Xavi clone, but he's far better then this tall lump of shit that most are portraying him as.
Sign the fecker already. I don't watch to see a midfield duo of Ando-Cleverley ever again.
Would be a good squad player, but he will not solve our midfield problem. If we sign say Modric or someone like that, then I would not complain if we got Fellaini as well. But if he's the only signing we're going to make this summer, I will be disappointed. I'd rather we signed Kondogbia from Sevilla for a lot less money, which is a much more exciting player and a prospect for the future.
He would massively improve our options in central midfield. It's an incontrovertible fact, and how that alone isn't enough to convince United fans is beyond me.
Jesus Christ how can people want us to sign Fellaini.
79% passing success from midfield is not good enough for United.
Did you see Anderson (who at least was good going forward) and Cleverley (fecking abysmal) today? Pretty much any signing in CM would improve us at this point.
Anyone with half a brain has known with quite a while that Ando isn't good enough this hasn't come out of the blue like. Any cm would improve us is true but it doesn't mean we have to panic and bring in someone else who isn't good enough and be back to square one.
Still no bid ?
We ain't after his afro, at all !
We ain't after his afro, at all !
Because there are better and cheaper options on the market? On top of that the timing of the signing is far from ideal. If the officials had true faith in the Belgian he would have been signed a long time ago and would have at least participated in the important pre season.
Well theoretically we should not make a panic buy, but when you don't sign a midfielder for 5 fecking years than anyone who can run will be an upgrade. Fellaini, Cabaye, Kongodbia, McCarthy all would be good signings and pretty much guaranteed starters in our midfield.
That'd be improved upon at United though, surely?
Passing stats are shit anyway.
Fellaini is not good enough, the muppets would rejoice at finally signing a midfielder before the harsh reality sets in a few months later and they are begging for another midfielder again next summer.
He's better then Anderson and Cleverley. And right now, they're our only options after Carrick.
Its a ridiculous situation to be in, but if its Fellani or nothing for now, well then Fellani it has to be.
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