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If we had signed him before all this Thiago and Fabregas talk I'm sure most would have been happy.

Maybe. Looking 60 pages ago quite a lot of opinions were negative. Randall Flagg, Woodzy, paceme and RedRonaldo have been pretty consistent saying they would like/wouldn't mind him coming.
 
Man United midfield for season 2013/14 courtesy of twitter


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Is that a black cloud of depression?
 
I can't recall where I read it but it seems last night I came across a statment that made a lot of sense...something along the lines of it being a better idea to sign players who have not yet reached their pinnacle and are still hungry to improve and win rather than bringing in big names who have done and won it all. While this isn't always 100% applicable (for example, Robin Van Persie was at his peak yet had not won much of anything) it's an interesting view to take when assessing players.
 
I can't recall where I read it but it seems last night I came across a statment that made a lot of sense...something along the lines of it being a better idea to sign players who have not yet reached their pinnacle and are still hungry to improve and win rather than bringing in big names who have done and won it all. While this isn't always 100% applicable (for example, Robin Van Persie was at his peak yet had not won much of anything) it's an interesting view to take when assessing players.

Fabregas (for example) spent 6 seasons in the PL without a trophy and he hasn't won a CL with Barca either. I doubt he lacks the hunger. He's also only a year older than Fellaini.
 
Question, assuming the 4 midfield players United are/were reportedly in for are Modric, Tiago, Fabregas and Fellani, rate them 1-4 of which one you would most like to have signed.
 
He would give us something different, aye. So does Phil Jones when we play him in midfield. So does Rafael when we play him in midfield. Heck, even Fletcher these days gives us something different playing in midfield.

He's a worse midfielder than Cleverley and fitness issues are the only thing that makes him on par with Anderson.

As a second striker/target man he's a good player, a goalscorer and a nuisance, but if that were what we were looking for we could just as well have sign Kevin Nolan 6 years ago.

You mean Kevin Davies, don't you?
 
Question, assuming the 4 midfield players United are/were reportedly in for are Modric, Tiago, Fabregas and Fellani, rate them 1-4 of which one you would most like to have signed.

We were in for that Portuguese fella too? He's definitley in at number 1 :drool:
 
Fabregas (for example) spent 6 seasons in the PL without a trophy and he hasn't won a CL with Barca either. I doubt he lacks the hunger. He's also only a year older than Fellaini.

Another interesting example for sure.
 
Question, assuming the 4 midfield players United are/were reportedly in for are Modric, Tiago, Fabregas and Fellani, rate them 1-4 of which one you would most like to have signed.

Different players. In terms of sexing up midfield you have the first three in whatever order. That has never been the point about Fellaini. Fellaini is to strengthen, not to sex it up. Personally I'd have McCarthy + Fellaini ahead of any single one of the others (unless Rooney leaves, of course).

In a minority though.
 
Question, assuming the 4 midfield players United are/were reportedly in for are Modric, Tiago, Fabregas and Fellani, rate them 1-4 of which one you would most like to have signed.
1. Fabregas
2. Thiago
3. Modric
4. Fellaini
 
He's one of the most annoying players, ever... for an opponent team.

The way he glues the ball from all the long passes to his chest and covering it from players is just feckin frustrating. I remember, only Jones could twat him but that didn't stopped the afro ninja from doing his annoying thing, further.

Decision is yours, Moyes.
 
To be fair, he has a much better touch than most are giving him credit for. And I'm talking about with his feet, not his chest. He's also capable of scoring from outside the box with placed shots. Something none of our midfielders seem to do much. He would definitely make the squad stronger. I have my reservations but if he frees up Carrick to get forward a bit more sometimes and be more of an advanced playmaker (alongside Kagawa), then I think we'll be better and less predictable for it.
 
I can't recall where I read it but it seems last night I came across a statment that made a lot of sense...something along the lines of it being a better idea to sign players who have not yet reached their pinnacle and are still hungry to improve and win rather than bringing in big names who have done and won it all. While this isn't always 100% applicable (for example, Robin Van Persie was at his peak yet had not won much of anything) it's an interesting view to take when assessing players.

Yes, but we need someone to dictate play. A proper midfielder. (Imo)
 
To be fair, he has a much better touch than most are giving him credit for. And I'm talking about with his feet, not his chest. He's also capable of scoring from outside the box with placed shots. Something none of our midfielders seem to do much. He would definitely make the squad stronger. I have my reservations but if he frees up Carrick to get forward a bit more sometimes and be more of an advanced playmaker (alongside Kagawa), then I think we'll be better and less predictable for it.

I don't really think people question if he'd improve the squad, lets face it there are a lot of midfielders that would improve the squad but its a question of his price and how much he would improve us. For me 20m plus for someone who has not spent the vast majority of the last two seasons in a more advanced role than he would be used for here and has such has not really refined his game there and has minimal European experience is imo quite a lot. Whilst in sure he would inprove us I'm not sure by how much and would rather either spend a bit more for a more established player or look at a young midfielder who might be able to step up.

I'd take fellaini over no one but just not sure how much he would really take us forward. The creativity problem would still be there although he might free up carrick to push forward more but carrick is getting to that point where you'd want him to keep a deeper role. I suppose fellaini and a young midfielder would be good but not ideal imo
 
I don't really think people question if he'd improve the squad, lets face it there are a lot of midfielders that would improve the squad but its a question of his price and how much he would improve us. For me 20m plus for someone who has not spent the vast majority of the last two seasons in a more advanced role than he would be used for here and has such has not really refined his game there and has minimal European experience is imo quite a lot. Whilst in sure he would inprove us I'm not sure by how much and would rather either spend a bit more for a more established player or look at a young midfielder who might be able to step up.

I'd take fellaini over no one but just not sure how much he would really take us forward. The creativity problem would still be there although he might free up carrick to push forward more but carrick is getting to that point where you'd want him to keep a deeper role. I suppose fellaini and a young midfielder would be good but not ideal imo

Hard to argue with that, although I can't begin to comment on the fee. Fees don't make any sense to me anymore. Can't tell if this is a lot to spend, or a little.
 
Hard to argue with that, although I can't begin to comment on the fee. Fees don't make any sense to me anymore. Can't tell if this is a lot to spend, or a little.

Yeah it's really hard to judge, I mean you see young, Henderson, Milner for around those prices if not more but then you can get players like cabaye far cheaper or even carzola. I just honestly can't believe that having known we've had a midfield problem even if we didnt want to address it immediately, we haven't identified a player in a smaller league\team ready to make a step up like modric, gundogen, etc.
 
Question, assuming the 4 midfield players United are/were reportedly in for are Modric, Tiago, Fabregas and Fellani, rate them 1-4 of which one you would most like to have signed.

It's safe to assume microphone head was last on everyone's list.
 
Can you spot the pattern there?

Just about I think, but still puts in to context buying within the premier league even if not english. Any midfielder you buy within the league will likely be ott.
 
If Fellaini signs and Moyes' start as boss is defined by that signing, then we'd better hope for the best. Totally under-fecking-whelming. We're not expecting wholesale changes (Moyes has already ripped the backroom staff apart) but that CM is desperately required. Fellaini is not him.
 
To be fair, he has a much better touch than most are giving him credit for. And I'm talking about with his feet, not his chest. He's also capable of scoring from outside the box with placed shots. Something none of our midfielders seem to do much. He would definitely make the squad stronger. I have my reservations but if he frees up Carrick to get forward a bit more sometimes and be more of an advanced playmaker (alongside Kagawa), then I think we'll be better and less predictable for it.

No No No. We DO NOT want Carrick further up otherwise there's no screen for the defence. Carrick isn't an advanced CM for fecksake. You want him playing alongside Kagawa in the 10 position? :wenger:
 
Question, assuming the 4 midfield players United are/were reportedly in for are Modric, Tiago, Fabregas and Fellani, rate them 1-4 of which one you would most like to have signed.

1. Thiago
2. Fabregas
3. Modric
4. Fellaini
 
Martinez quotes were actually pretty worrying. "No bid yet but that doesn't mean negotiations aren't taking place" was the gist of it, and with respectable sources such as the guardian reporting we've made an approach, I am very worried about this.
 
To be fair, he has a much better touch than most are giving him credit for. And I'm talking about with his feet, not his chest. He's also capable of scoring from outside the box with placed shots. Something none of our midfielders seem to do much. He would definitely make the squad stronger. I have my reservations but if he frees up Carrick to get forward a bit more sometimes and be more of an advanced playmaker (alongside Kagawa), then I think we'll be better and less predictable for it.
It would be the other way round. Carrick would sit deep (like he always does) and fellaini will go box to box.
 
Martinez quotes were actually pretty worrying. "No bid yet but that doesn't mean negotiations aren't taking place" was the gist of it, and with respectable sources such as the guardian reporting we've made an approach, I am very worried about this.
You just made up what the gist of it was.
 
No No No. We DO NOT want Carrick further up otherwise there's no screen for the defence. Carrick isn't an advanced CM for fecksake. You want him playing alongside Kagawa in the 10 position? :wenger:
Calm down.

I said it might allow him to get forward. Not that he'd play as a number 10. I'm ok with encouraging him to link up with Kagawa more. Both very creative. And this was predicated on Fellaini being able to provide a solid defensive screen when required. Giving us variety.....

Got it?

Don't understand the stuff about freeing up Carrick, he's excellent where he is, utter nonsense.

If we play a 3 man midfield under Moyes, which seems likely. Carrick will have more to contribute going forward I would think. It's just an opinion. No one is saying anything about him playing as a number 10.
 
It would be the other way round. Carrick would sit deep (like he always does) and fellaini will go box to box.

I'm not saying that wouldn't happen. The reason I don't want that to happen is that whenever Fellaini pushes forward, the temptation will be for people to hit him with aerial balls. I don't think anyone wants to see much of that. As a creative, passing influence I'd rather see Carrick with more license. But that's just me.
 
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