Bebe
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no it hasnt
Are you sure? Most of what I've seen on Twitter (I know, I know) says it has, including that Belgian journo Hoenigstein's been retweeting.
no it hasnt
The release clause has expired.
If we had signed him before all this Thiago and Fabregas talk I'm sure most would have been happy.
Man United midfield for season 2013/14 courtesy of twitter
Is that a black cloud of depression?
I can't recall where I read it but it seems last night I came across a statment that made a lot of sense...something along the lines of it being a better idea to sign players who have not yet reached their pinnacle and are still hungry to improve and win rather than bringing in big names who have done and won it all. While this isn't always 100% applicable (for example, Robin Van Persie was at his peak yet had not won much of anything) it's an interesting view to take when assessing players.
He would give us something different, aye. So does Phil Jones when we play him in midfield. So does Rafael when we play him in midfield. Heck, even Fletcher these days gives us something different playing in midfield.
He's a worse midfielder than Cleverley and fitness issues are the only thing that makes him on par with Anderson.
As a second striker/target man he's a good player, a goalscorer and a nuisance, but if that were what we were looking for we could just as well have sign Kevin Nolan 6 years ago.
Osman?I'd be content enough if we signed him, I just have this desire to see him being unveiled alongside someone else.
Question, assuming the 4 midfield players United are/were reportedly in for are Modric, Tiago, Fabregas and Fellani, rate them 1-4 of which one you would most like to have signed.
Fabregas (for example) spent 6 seasons in the PL without a trophy and he hasn't won a CL with Barca either. I doubt he lacks the hunger. He's also only a year older than Fellaini.
1.FellainiQuestion, assuming the 4 midfield players United are/were reportedly in for are Modric, Tiago, Fabregas and Fellani, rate them 1-4 of which one you would most like to have signed.
Question, assuming the 4 midfield players United are/were reportedly in for are Modric, Tiago, Fabregas and Fellani, rate them 1-4 of which one you would most like to have signed.
I'd take Fellaini over Tiago any day of the week.
1. FabregasQuestion, assuming the 4 midfield players United are/were reportedly in for are Modric, Tiago, Fabregas and Fellani, rate them 1-4 of which one you would most like to have signed.
I can't recall where I read it but it seems last night I came across a statment that made a lot of sense...something along the lines of it being a better idea to sign players who have not yet reached their pinnacle and are still hungry to improve and win rather than bringing in big names who have done and won it all. While this isn't always 100% applicable (for example, Robin Van Persie was at his peak yet had not won much of anything) it's an interesting view to take when assessing players.
To be fair, he has a much better touch than most are giving him credit for. And I'm talking about with his feet, not his chest. He's also capable of scoring from outside the box with placed shots. Something none of our midfielders seem to do much. He would definitely make the squad stronger. I have my reservations but if he frees up Carrick to get forward a bit more sometimes and be more of an advanced playmaker (alongside Kagawa), then I think we'll be better and less predictable for it.
I don't really think people question if he'd improve the squad, lets face it there are a lot of midfielders that would improve the squad but its a question of his price and how much he would improve us. For me 20m plus for someone who has not spent the vast majority of the last two seasons in a more advanced role than he would be used for here and has such has not really refined his game there and has minimal European experience is imo quite a lot. Whilst in sure he would inprove us I'm not sure by how much and would rather either spend a bit more for a more established player or look at a young midfielder who might be able to step up.
I'd take fellaini over no one but just not sure how much he would really take us forward. The creativity problem would still be there although he might free up carrick to push forward more but carrick is getting to that point where you'd want him to keep a deeper role. I suppose fellaini and a young midfielder would be good but not ideal imo
Hard to argue with that, although I can't begin to comment on the fee. Fees don't make any sense to me anymore. Can't tell if this is a lot to spend, or a little.
Question, assuming the 4 midfield players United are/were reportedly in for are Modric, Tiago, Fabregas and Fellani, rate them 1-4 of which one you would most like to have signed.
Yeah it's really hard to judge, I mean you see young, Henderson, Milner for around those prices if not more but then you can get players like cabaye far cheaper or even carzola.
Can you spot the pattern there?
To be fair, he has a much better touch than most are giving him credit for. And I'm talking about with his feet, not his chest. He's also capable of scoring from outside the box with placed shots. Something none of our midfielders seem to do much. He would definitely make the squad stronger. I have my reservations but if he frees up Carrick to get forward a bit more sometimes and be more of an advanced playmaker (alongside Kagawa), then I think we'll be better and less predictable for it.
Question, assuming the 4 midfield players United are/were reportedly in for are Modric, Tiago, Fabregas and Fellani, rate them 1-4 of which one you would most like to have signed.
It would be the other way round. Carrick would sit deep (like he always does) and fellaini will go box to box.To be fair, he has a much better touch than most are giving him credit for. And I'm talking about with his feet, not his chest. He's also capable of scoring from outside the box with placed shots. Something none of our midfielders seem to do much. He would definitely make the squad stronger. I have my reservations but if he frees up Carrick to get forward a bit more sometimes and be more of an advanced playmaker (alongside Kagawa), then I think we'll be better and less predictable for it.
You just made up what the gist of it was.Martinez quotes were actually pretty worrying. "No bid yet but that doesn't mean negotiations aren't taking place" was the gist of it, and with respectable sources such as the guardian reporting we've made an approach, I am very worried about this.
Calm down.No No No. We DO NOT want Carrick further up otherwise there's no screen for the defence. Carrick isn't an advanced CM for fecksake. You want him playing alongside Kagawa in the 10 position?
Don't understand the stuff about freeing up Carrick, he's excellent where he is, utter nonsense.
You just made up what the gist of it was.
It would be the other way round. Carrick would sit deep (like he always does) and fellaini will go box to box.