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£30 million for the pair? That is... wait for it... value. I mean that. Wouldn't be a bad deal at all considering the state of the market this summer.

We'll have wasted the entire pre season period going after two players we could have snared and allowed to settle in.

If we get these two, we know full well they're second choices. Pillaging Everton... I'm ecstatic.
 
It's all gone full circle to the start of the summer. Fellaini and Baines, the two players everyone thought we'd sign from the start.
 
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There is that element to it but then that aspect of transfer is often overrated imo, it does play a part but can is over emphasized- good players will generally adapt. I reckon it's also to do with most PL clubs not really needing to sell as much as foreign clubs. My point though was more that I'd be surprised if there weren't some foreign based players out there who could be as good if not better in that role, for less money.

I guess maybe it's the exposure PL players get. When you buy Young, Milner or Henderson you've got a pretty clear ID what you're getting. There are doubtless overseas players who are cheaper and better, but finding them is trickier and for every Cabaye and Michu there's some bloke you've forgotten about and never really knew he he was in the first place failing to hold down a place at Newcastle or Swansea.
 
I guess maybe it's the exposure PL players get. When you buy Young, Milner or Henderson you've got a pretty clear ID what you're getting. There are doubtless overseas players who are cheaper and better, but finding them is trickier and for every Cabaye and Michu there's some bloke you've forgotten about and never really knew he he was in the first place failing to hold down a place at Newcastle or Swansea.

I like the way you just threw a random laugh into that post.
 
Why are we wasting time going after Baines? It's not a signing that's going to bring any real benefits, especially if Evra is still at the club. Depressing story from The Guardian, hope to God it's untrue.

This is what I am thinking. Evra still has a couple of years left at the top level and if we are thinking about replacing him then I would much prefer it to be someone who is younger. I know we bought RVP who isn't exactly a spring chicken but I consider him to be one of those rare, world class players that was on the market at the time.
 
Everton are not taking 30m for them two. They're not fecking stupid.


Pretty much. In todays market to lose our two best players for that price is a bit cheeky to say the least from the bidder (if true).

Also what doesn't make sense is that if Fellaini still has the reported release clause we'd be letting Baines go for 7 million. It makes no sense at all and i'd be really angry if it happened because it seems we are being quoted obscene amounts for McCarthy who Martinez would probably want.
 
Why are we wasting time going after Baines? It's not a signing that's going to bring any real benefits, especially if Evra is still at the club. Depressing story from The Guardian, hope to God it's untrue.


He's a very very good player and would seriously strengthen our squad. Remember how Evra reacted to a little competition last season from Butters, imagine how much he'll fight with Baines breathing down his neck!!?
 
I agree that it's fecking stupid to get these two now when, if they were always on the cards, we should have had them nailed down much earlier and bedded in , considering 3 of our first 5 games are monsters.
 
Pretty much. In todays market to lose our two best players for that price is a bit cheeky to say the least from the bidder (if true).

Also what doesn't make sense is that if Fellaini still has the reported release clause we'd be letting Baines go for 7 million. It makes no sense at all and i'd be really angry if it happened because it seems we are being quoted obscene amounts for McCarthy who Martinez would probably want.
You'll get £40M for the two and spend £18M on McCarthy and £12M on Luke Shaw. Thus pocketing £10M and strengthening the side into the bargain.
 
I'm struggling to understand why we would pay serious money for Baines. Good player, but we have priorities elsewhere and good depth at LB, with an experienced veteran in Evra and a great prospect in Fabio.
 
Good players whom I have no problem with wearing our shirt. In fact, I see them strengthening us more than most are giving them credit for. My one gripe is that these two could, and most certainly should, have been signed in early July. It makes little sense to be involved in transfer discussions with Everton only ten days before we're due to kick off our Premier League title defence.
 
So, we've just decided to get rid of Fabio?

I'm not seeing a place for him in this scenario.
 
Good players whom I have no problem with wearing our shirt. In fact, I see them strengthening us more than most are giving them credit for. My one gripe is that these two could, and most certainly should, have been signed in early July. It makes little sense to be involved in transfer discussions with Everton only ten days before we're due to kick off our Premier League title defence.
If it was a case of trying to get a first choice and pushing as hard as possible at that but not succeeding then you can understand why he stalled.
 
Never worry about Baines, just sign Fellaini and go get McCarthy and maybe Cabaye as well, and get this shite over with. Can we just fast forward to the start of the season?
 
I'd be very happy to see Baines come in. As much as I love Evra and was very happy that he improved a bit last season, the rumour was he wanted a move and only stayed for SAF. I wouldn't be surprised if Baines came in and Evra got a move back to France.

As for Fellaini...Fabregas he is not, but he will add some physicality to our midfield, something which in some games we've been crying out for.
 
35v for both would be excellent business. I love evra but last two seasons he has been so off the pace, we need someone with better defensive abilities. We'd probably get a few mil for Evra too from monago/psg.

Don't underestimate Baines and fellaini
 
35v for both would be excellent business. I love evra but last two seasons he has been so off the pace, we need someone with better defensive abilities. We'd probably get a few mil for Evra too from monago/psg.

Don't underestimate Baines and fellaini

We don't need Baines and Fellaini is not the right choice to play alongside Carrick. No comment on their abilities.
 
35v for both would be excellent business. I love evra but last two seasons he has been so off the pace, we need someone with better defensive abilities. We'd probably get a few mil for Evra too from monago/psg.

Don't underestimate Baines and fellaini

He was largely very good last season.
 
Baines I don't see the need for, but it's all good if Fellaini is part of the deal.
 
But when the other option is United sign no one, which from where I'm standing is looking likelier by the day, you'd be crazy to still not want him. At worst he'll at least provide an extra body in the midfield.


I'd rather give the kids a chance. Or sign an promising unknown. There are hundreds of technically gifted players out there, why on Earth would we want Fellaini. He IS NOT A UNITED type of player, it will be a massive mistake to sign him

Plus... The seats at Old Trafford are small enough as it is, imagine trying to see the match through a forest of all those stupid wigs !
 
People might be wanting better alternatives (i'm still harbouring muppet hope for one of Ronaldo or Fabregas) but you can't deny that a combined £30m for Fellaini and Baines would be a fecking steal. Which is precisely why Everton would never accept that bid. Our squad would look a hell of a lot stronger with those additions though.
 
Cabaye would be a lot better and cost less.
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Really disagree. I like Cabaye, but how can people say that when Fellaini was one of best midfielders in EPL last season (bar the red cards) and Cabaye was distinctly average (mainly due to injuries granted). Cabaye is much more two dimensional than Fellaini who has more to offer than just someone who is a good passer. Cabaye is massively overrated imo
 
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Really disagree. I like Cabaye, but how can people say that when Fellaini was one of best midfielders in EPL last season (bar the red cards) and Cabaye was distinctly average (mainly due to injuries granted). Cabaye is much more two dimensional than Fellaini who has more to offer than just someone who is a good passer. Cabaye is massively overrated imo

He wasn't even used as a midfielder!
 
He wasn't even used as a midfielder!
Yes he was, He may have been pushed up closer to the 'number ten' but he still played a lot deeper than the likes of Rooney for example with the way everton shaped up.

Regardless, he was much better than Cabaye
 
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Really disagree. I like Cabaye, but how can people say that when Fellaini was one of best midfielders in EPL last season (bar the red cards) and Cabaye was distinctly average (mainly due to injuries granted). Cabaye is much more two dimensional than Fellaini who has more to offer than just someone who is a good passer. Cabaye is massively overrated imo

Fellaini played 4 games in midfield all season.

Cabaye wasnt distinctly average at all, he was one of Newcastle's best players and one of the best central midfielders in the league. Something Fellaini was not.


As for having less to his game, thats obviously nonsense. Cabaye scores more goals from a midfield role than Fellaini does, is a fantastic freekick taker as he's shown scoring against us, yes he's a better passer than Fellaini and thats actually important for a midfielder, Cabaye wins the ball more (as discussed in previous pages)

In short, no. Your post sums up whats wrong with this thread.
 
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