Please god dont let this happen. Hopefully I'm having a nightmare and I'll wake up soon! Couldnt me more unhappy about this
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Please god dont let this happen. Hopefully I'm having a nightmare and I'll wake up soon! Couldnt me more unhappy about this
No he's a pretty decent midfielder as it goes. Breaks play up and can pass the ball quickly and accurately under pressure. Also has an eye for goal and a bit of skill/strength in tight situations....and our midfield has been bullied by him, regularly.
Kagawa hasn't played in central midfield for United and Anderson's been there since 2008 and hasn't produced reliably over the course of a season. Scholes has become too old and now retired. We need someone else who can take the incisive passing burden from Carrick. Well, we don't need, but it would be quite helpful. Fellaini would at least solve the other half of the "what happens when Carrick gets injured" issue, though.
We can do better. If Fellaini comes he will be another Anderson who will fail to shine and be on large wages and be hard to offload.
What? ??
you base this on what? He's already proven himself an excellent Premier league player. He may be no fabregas but he is better than most Premier league midfielders. Have people forgotten how much of a pain he was for the top sides last year? We had to specifically put jones or in midfield to mark him at home. Something we only did otherwise for Rooney and Bale.
He's a top class midfielder, only foolish can't see that.
EDIT. On re reading your post I think I may have fallen for a wind up..
I'll definitely agree with this aspect of the signing in that he would remove the worry about not having a backup. I just believe that there are better signings possible in terms of a backup for Carrick and I don't believe he'll add anything going forward from a central midfield position. If we sign him than I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, obviously, but I'll watch through my hands in Europe as I believe he'll be sent off very quickly.
Good player but not a great player.
We could really use two quality midfielders.
I agree - Id be happy with his signing and think we need that type of midfielder, dont understand all the negativity.
And we do have Cleverley for midfield passing, he is underrated by many as well.
Anyone who is expecting 2 midfield signings is likely to be disappointed, be happy with one!
Many teams play a possession based game, and it's boring, after all very few teams have Messi, Xavi and Iniesta. I prefer teams that attack relentlessly; It's pleasing to watch when a team doesn't hold possession for the sake of it, and pushes the ball forward and launch waves of attacks. Either is fine, as long your team is good at it.
I guess people who prefer football where the team keeps possession and opens opposition subtly and also prefer wine over bourbon. Whatever gets you drunk.
Should have gotten Charlie Adam when we had the chance.
Will be just like the Ashley Young signing.
Brushed over if we sign another better midfielder though.
Brushed over if we sign another better midfielder though.
Fellaini plus a strong experienced midfielder and we are set.
I've always said that I'd be happy with the Fellaini signing once it was alongside another midfielder of quality, and I think a lot agreed. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like it will.
I genuinely don't understand how so many people don't see that Fellaini would undoubtedly strengthen our midfield and our squad.
Is Fellaini better than Giggs, Cleverley and Anderson? Yes.
If you boil it down to an analysis that simple, he's a good signing.
If you boil it down to an analysis that simple, he's a good signing.
Don't see Fabregas happening, in fact I reckon he'll put that to bed tomorrow at his press conference. As for Modric, unless Madrid bring in another midfielder I see him remaining another season. After them two, who's available that would be a genuine improvement on our current midfield?
It's not his fault there's nobody available anyway. In fact, in Fellaini, he's probably going to sign the only feasible transfer who'd be an improvement.
Good aerial ability, Physical presence and ball winner and can score a few as well.What else do you need.
I agree he'd be overpriced. I agree generally with the consensus that he's not what you need and would be quite a negative signing.
But short-term at least, he would improve you, and if you can't get your top target at the moment, then maybe he's the next best thing.
Just want to get this done really, I think he would be a good signing and would easily improve our central midfield.
I would be fine with Fellaini as a 10-15 mil squad-type player. But 24 million no chance.
He's better than a peak Fletcher too, who some people claimed was the best midfielder in the league......workhorses!
Fabregas and Modric aren't the only quality midfielders in the world.
Up to Moyes to identify someone suitable, that's what he gets paid for.
I still don't think you'll actually sign him. The press have just decided you are with no actual info coming from the club.
Considering Everton paid £15m for him, there's really very little chance of us getting him for less than £20m.
I actually concur with this.
I don't think people would disagree with you. He is better than any of our midfielders bar carrick. He's better than most midfielders in EPL. The problem is after a summer we have been after Fabregas and Thiago it just feels like we are settling and we COULD/SHOULD have done better. He will improve us...just not AS much as people want.
Interesting thought though. Can we list (and try be honest) better midfielders (CM's) than Fellaini at the moment:
Carrick (in his 'carrick role').
Toure
Wilshere
Gerrard (maybe..but not sure about that)
Any more? Cant have likes of Fernandinho as we just dont know yet (although he will be good). Arteta, Lampard, Sandro, Dembele, Ramires (as a CM), Barry, Milner...all I would prefer Fellaini in my team.
Fellaini and another central midfielder of some sort (more of a prospect perhaps?) would be some decent business in my opinion. I think we should be looking to do more then just Fellaini at any rate... especially when you consider we'd probably lose him for at least 6 or 7 games due to suspensions.
However, I still think there is something in the Fabregas move, and will do so until Fabregas himself announces he doesn't want to leave Barca (and since he hasn't done so in the past week or two, I imagine he wouldn't mind leaving...)
However, I still think there is something in the Fabregas move, and will do so until Fabregas himself announces he doesn't want to leave Barca (and since he hasn't done so in the past week or two, I imagine he wouldn't mind leaving...)
Arteta is a better footballer I would say (and he pretty much always does well for Arsenal - even when the rest of the side are falling apart.), but his age means I'd rather have Fellaini.
I think that says more about the quality of midfielders in the PL than anything. Think of how many you could name who are better than him in La Liga or the Bundesliga.
Thats true, but not the point i was making. Could be worse!
Yes he's worth 24 million. The same people probably cried when we paid all that money for RVP.. He's 25, he's better then he's made to sound and he's versatile. If we're willing to pay the money for Ronaldo and Fabregas, this won't have any effect on that. We're talking about a player who will continue to improve. The price is irrelevant because if he's part of a team that helps us win a trophy that generates us money, then who cares? Lots of people moaned at £30 million for Rooney....he justified it after a game because it was obviously what we had. People saw the hat trick and thought great!. There's a whole list of instances where people have been proven wrong. There are very few certainties but he would improve the squad and yes he is worth it. The main point is he's a midfielder and we're in dire need whether it be this guy or anyone. We just need to plug the gaps.
Don't disagree with much of that post.
The issue, as you say, is the idea you're settling for a player who is inferior to one you could have got. If you actually wanted him, you'd have gone in there and got him early on when the release clause was there.
That said, this is all based on the premise that Moyes does want him - something which isn't yet clear.
There's a quite a few quality midfielders in Italy at the moment too I'd say.
Comparing the fees of the best striker in the world at the time to a decent/good (depending on how you look at it) midfielder, not sure that's the best approach to take here.
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