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This is something many has predicted. Neglecting midfield issue forced us to get an average player (average in terms of United quality).
I believe this is a stop gap solution, he gives us time to secure our main transfers.

True. Fellaini can also be viewed as a replacement for Ando, a role player whose future usefulness is in serious doubt.
 
I wouldn't worry, I think Moyes wants Fellaini to play a deeper role and still get another central midfielder. I don't think Fellaini would be our only CM signing this summer if the deal goes through.
 
If we sign this microphone headed feck he'd need to be making a big step up in performance. Based on how he's played previously in his career he isn't good enough for our needs. We've always signed players who have looked to make the step up and improve here, but Fellaini has work to do. I'm not sure he has it in him.
 
From Thiago to Fabregas to Fellaini.

It was always inevitable but the fact that Moyes has teased my e-penis with the former too makes it even more of a stringer (if it does happen).
 
Reminds me of that summer when we got Valencia and Owen. Not the top class signing we need. But he will do.
 
It'd just be a rubbish signing, for me. I actually think Jones (who I still firmly believe is a defender) can probably do the job in midfield as well as Fellaini can, I mean it's not like Fellaini is even a passing upgrade on him and at least Jones doesn't elbow everyone he sees in the face. We'd likely pay £24m or whatever for this cnut which would just be a rubbish bit of business on the clubs behalf.

And by the way, this isn't to do with Fabregas, I always said I'd be happy to get Mc Carthy and Cabaye (for an example, who'd probably cost the same combined as Fellaini), not this lumbering twat.
 
If we sign this microphone headed feck he'd need to be making a big step up in performance. Based on how he's played previously in his career he isn't good enough for our needs. We've always signed players who have looked to make the step up and improve here, but Fellaini has work to do. I'm not sure he has it in him.

:lol:
 
Fellaini would be quite a letdown from Fabregas AND Ronaldo, but it wouldn't signal the demise of Manchester United Football Club. In the absence of hauling in both Fabregas and Ronaldo we were never going to lift the CL trophy in May of 2014, but we're still a very legitimate contender to retain the prem trophy. Our opposition has geared up, no question about it, but we've still got a fantastic squad.

My main worry, however, is Rooney.

You never really thought this would happen right ? I mean signing back Ronaldo was a lot more unlikely than the signing of Fabregas and Thiago.
 
It'd just be a rubbish signing, for me. I actually think Jones (who I still firmly believe is a defender) can probably do the job in midfield as well as Fellaini can, I mean it's not like Fellaini is even a passing upgrade on him and at least Jones doesn't elbow everyone he sees in the face. We'd likely pay £24m or whatever for this cnut which would just be a rubbish bit of business on the clubs behalf.

And by the way, this isn't to do with Fabregas, I always said I'd be happy to get Mc Carthy and Cabaye (for an example, who'd probably cost the same combined as Fellaini), not this lumbering twat.


Or Gustavo? Available for less than Fellaini and is the better player yet we don't appear to give a shit.
 
You never really thought this would happen right ? I mean signing back Ronaldo was a lot more unlikely than the signing of Fabregas and Thiago.
Ruud10 tends to make extremely long, dwindling posts that somehow always lead to us signing Ronaldo in the end, I think it's an obsession.

"Ruud honey, what would you like to do for dinner?"
"Ah, m'dear, a good question for sure, say the possibility could be a home cooked one, although if we felt elegant we could splash out, get a take-away, maybe even go for dinner, henceforth we could invariably run into a celebrity, maybe a certain Cristiano Ronaldo, who knows? I think the club, our club, a club of beauty, would firmly benefit from his signing, I believe we should sign Ronaldo, simples".
"... Chicken curry then yeah?"
 
The Belgian paper is quoting English sources. Who are they referring to? The Mirror?
 
I'd take Cabaye. He has atleast played CM for the past two seasons and isn't afraid to put his foot in either.
 
He'll be a better player for us than Anderson has been. So he's an instant upgrade, though maybe not to the extent people wanted. Plus he'll finally provide proper cover for Carrick, which has been a long time coming.
 
He'll be a better player for us than Anderson has been. So he's an instant upgrade, though maybe not to the extent people wanted. Plus he'll finally provide proper cover for Carrick, which has been a long time coming.

Who? Fellaini or Cabaye?

Fellaini's passing is a mile behind Carrick's, I don't really see him as adequate cover.
 
Why? Cabaye is a very good player who can at least pass the ball. He'd also be good cover for Carrick, a now 32 year old who we were ridiculously reliant on last year.

Yet Fellaini who can play alongside Carrick and free up his defensive duties that he's been burdened with the last 2 seasons and leave him to be the play-maker he is. No?
Nah lets just sign a Carrick clone, that'll work!
 
Why? Cabaye is a very good player who can at least pass the ball. He'd also be good cover for Carrick, a now 32 year old who we were ridiculously reliant on last year.

I just don't see it with Cabaye personally. Was hyped a couple of seasons ago... not claiming I'm right, it's just my opinion. His passing is okay, but nothing special IMO. Has a good shot on him, but overall I have the same feeling you seem to have on Fellaini – not good enough to make the step up. He would also have a very long way to go to cover for Carrick, I think Fellaini is better suited to do this.
 
Yet Fellaini who can play alongside Carrick and free up his defensive duties that he's been burdened with the last 2 seasons and leave him to be the play-maker he is. No?
Nah lets just sign a Carrick clone, that'll work!

Yes Gaz, that's what I said.

Why would we make Carrick a playmaker? He isn't one, his best job is sitting deep and making interceptions and direct passes to our attackers. If we did what you're suggesting we'd be taking out the best aspect of his game in order to try make him a player he's not.
 
Fellaini .. It really makes it difficult to be excited about his possible signing. I keep reading it's a stop gap solution until we get our real CM signings but who would those be ?
 
I just don't see it with Cabaye personally. Was hyped a couple of seasons ago... not claiming I'm right, it's just my opinion. His passing is okay, but nothing special IMO. Has a good shot on him, but overall I have the same feeling you seem to have on Fellaini – not good enough to make the step up. He would also have a very long way to go to cover for Carrick, I think Fellaini is better suited to do this.

Fair enough, differing opinions and all that.

I'd take McCarthy over both anyway. I'm very surprised nobody has snapped him up yet.
 
Yes Gaz, that's what I said.

Why would we make Carrick a playmaker? He isn't one, his best job is sitting deep and making interceptions and direct passes to our attackers. If we did what you're suggesting we'd be taking out the best aspect of his game in order to try make him a player he's not.

So sorry, to put it specifically, Carrick is a deep lying playmaker... which is basically what you just described. Carrick's best aspect of his game is not his defensive work - far from it.
 
So sorry, to put it specifically, Carrick is a deep lying playmaker... which is basically what you just described. Carrick's best aspect of his game is not his defensive work - far from it.

And uh, what does a "deep lying playmaker" do? He defends and makes interceptions, you said you want Carrick freed up from his defensive "burdens", yet it's an intricate part of that role.

People are too obsessed with the word "playmaker" on here, fact is we haven't used a full on one since Veron, not even Scholes was one. Our main attacking/creation outlet has always been our wingers and whomever sits behind the striker (i.e. Rooney), it's always been the job of the midfielder to get the ball to those players.
 
How can Fellaini be considered as a possible back up for Carrick as in the last couple of seasons he rarely played in such a position nor role ?

He's naturally a defensive midfielder, he won't be a back up for Carrick, I suspect he'd play a much deeper role IF we signed him!
 
I'm convinced Fellaini will be the player to help us win the Champions League again.
 
And uh, what does a "deep lying playmaker" do? He defends and makes interceptions, you said you want Carrick freed up from his defensive "burdens", yet it's an intricate part of that role.

People are too obsessed with the word "playmaker" on here, fact is we haven't used a full on one since Veron, not even Scholes was one. Our main attacking/creation outlet has always been our wingers and whomever sits behind the striker (i.e. Rooney), it's always been the job of the midfielder to get the ball to those players.
Despite their deep role, they are not classed as defensive midfielders as tackling and defence are not the main function of their roles, and they may have to be supported by a holding midfielder.
 
How can Fellaini be considered as a possible back up for Carrick as in the last couple of seasons he rarely played in such a position nor role ?

I remember Moyes stating not so long ago that Fellaini prefers to play centre mid medium-term and he plans to play him there (when he was still at Everton). As Moyes is now our manager... well, I guess he will use him there.
 
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