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I think it'd be a waste of Fellaini's best role (to be more involved in the final third) and Carrick's at the same time.

It's not his best role, he said this himself:
"I'm happy with my season, although I didn't play in my best position," continued Fellaini.

"I'm not a number 10. David Moyes predicts my future as a defensive midfielder, but due to a lack of offensive power, he plays me up front.

"In the future I want to play as a six or an eight. From there, I can create danger and score goals."
And in April Moyes said:
But Moyes said: “He is a good player in either role and is capable of doing both. For long parts of this season we have played him a bit further forward but recently he has dropped back a little.

“I think as he matures he might grow into a deeper role but currently he does give us a different attacking option and has scored quite a few goals so we have been happy with him playing further forward this season.”
 
I'm convinced Fellaini will be the player to help us win the Champions League again.


He's not a great passer or dribbler of the ball so I understand peoples frustration at being linked with him but I also find it quite strange how someone who has been such a difficult opponent for us, especially last year is touted as being no where near United quality.

He wouldn't get us playing fantasy football but I genuinely think he could give the Barca's and Dortmunds of this world an incredibly difficult time.
 
:lol: Well if wikipedia says it, then obviously you're right.

Stellar fecking argument there.

Sorry, didn't realise you knew the role inside & out, why don't you write me a more accurate description of it and show everyone how "well up" you are on the subject.
 
Sorry, didn't realise you knew the role inside & out, why don't you write me a more accurate description of it and show everyone how "well up" you are on the subject.

That's not the point though, you brought up the role, I didn't say anything about it, you were the one who suddenly called Carrick a deep lying playmaker, that's not what he is. That's what someone like Alonso or the Scholes of his latter years is/was. Carrick is a pretty unique footballer who just had his best ever season for us and you're basically saying you want to take out one of the best aspects of his game in order to use him as a player he isn't.
 
He's not a great passer or dribbler of the ball so I understand peoples frustration at being linked with him but I also find it quite strange how someone who has been such a difficult opponent for us, especially last year is touted as being no where near United quality.

He wouldn't get us playing fantasy football but I genuinely think he could give the Barca's and Dortmunds of this world an incredibly difficult time.

The CM deficiency is so staggeringly obvious (especially in the Champions League) - do you really think Fellaini is the player to address that deficiency. Really???

He'd be a fecking disaster in the Champions League because his style of play will result in conceding numerous free-kicks, and those flailing elbows will get him sent-off. Unfortunately, that's how European referees view that style of play. You only have to see how Crouch was penalised in internationals, and he's hardly aggressive in intent.

I'm resigned to Fellaini coming in, but he's not the answer.
 
The comments in this thread are reminiscent of the reaction to us signing Valencia.

I never saw that thread but were people really flat out against signing him?

Anyway, I don't see the point of these comments, should we not comment on whether we think a player is good enough for the club or not before we sign them? Should we just be happy with every player we're linked with and go "he'll be great, let's get him"?

Obviously Fellaini could end up being a really good signing for us, you never know, he could be a pretty poor one too. A lot of people (I presume) called Valencia wrongly but a lot of people also called out Young correctly. Works both ways.
 
He'll be a decent addition for he squad. He's a good player but shouldn't be first choice of Manchester United but probably will be looking at our other options.

It's strange though. Fabregas and Thiago suggest a very different direction and vision for the side than fellaini does. Personally I still want us to get one technical midfielder. What happened to that kid at athletics madrid? Looked a brilliant talent.
 
Don't get the fellaini hated here, sometimes I think with this place If he doesn't have a Spanish name or one with a 'inho' on the end then we are not interested.

Think he's a really good player actually, his first touch is excellent. He'd be excellent at defending and attacking corners which is something we have needed for a while.

Can someone put an obligatory YouTube video or two on? That might get people bit more excited
 
Don't get the fellaini hated here, sometimes I think with this place If he doesn't have a Spanish name or one with a 'inho' on the end then we are not interested.

Think he's a really good player actually, his first touch is excellent. He'd be excellent at defending and attacking corners which is something we have needed for a while.

Can someone put an obligatory YouTube video or two on? That might get people bit more excited

We scored more corners than anyone else in the league last season (or close to it anyway).
 
I hope if we get him at the very least he turns out of be good defensively. I've never thought of him as someone with great defensive acumen. If he proves to be good at that he could be a very useful addition given he has presence and some good attacking traits. But like I said above we still need more class in midfield. He won't change that.
 
It's not his best role, he said this himself:

And in April Moyes said:

I remember Moyes stating not so long ago that Fellaini prefers to play centre mid medium-term and he plans to play him there (when he was still at Everton). As Moyes is now our manager... well, I guess he will use him there.

Ok, thanks for the clear up. I still cannot get excited by the possibility of his signing.
 
The problem the fella instantaneously has is that, after you're strongly linked with Thiago and Fabregas, Fellaini sort of feels like you're pulling the fat friend.
 
According to Belgian newspaper Het Laatste Nieuws ,we are in advanced talks.
 
Don't get the fellaini hated here, sometimes I think with this place If he doesn't have a Spanish name or one with a 'inho' on the end then we are not interested.

Think he's a really good player actually, his first touch is excellent. He'd be excellent at defending and attacking corners which is something we have needed for a while.

Can someone put an obligatory YouTube video or two on? That might get people bit more excited

There's no hate, just opinions that he's not the answer for central midfield. It's nothing to do with his name. I mean, if Wilshere was available, he'd be brilliant.

It's just a bit sad if we sign Fellaini because Thiago and Fabregas were unavailable. I imagine others are likewise difficult to buy too, but we don't HAVE to go for Fellaini.
 
Don't get the fellaini hated here, sometimes I think with this place If he doesn't have a Spanish name or one with a 'inho' on the end then we are not interested.

Think he's a really good player actually, his first touch is excellent. He'd be excellent at defending and attacking corners which is something we have needed for a while.

Can someone put an obligatory YouTube video or two on? That might get people bit more excited
You could have made a better case for him than great first touch and great for set pieces.

He is a good player. He has a lot of qualities but we do lack class in midfield. Fellaini will add some things. Were a bit soft in midfield. He's extremely physically imposing. We lack someone apart from Ando to drive forward from midfield. Fellaini can do that, he's quite good at it actually. He gets goals and is intelligent too. But i think he's not going to change the fact that we've been crying out for awhile now for someone like the two players we've failed to get this summer.
 
The problem the fella instantaneously has is that, after you're strongly linked with Thiago and Fabregas, Fellaini sort of feels like you're pulling the fat friend.
This is exactly the problem.
Every arse fan I know are extremely excited by the prospect of them getting him, they think he is the midfield general they have desperately been looking for. I remember when we used to want that type of player.
 
There's no hate, just opinions that he's not the answer for central midfield. It's nothing to do with his name. I mean, if Wilshere was available, he'd be brilliant.

It's just a bit sad if we sign Fellaini because Thiago and Fabregas were unavailable. I imagine others are likewise difficult to buy too, but we don't HAVE to go for Fellaini.
Personally I'd like to believe that we'd still be on the lookout for a central midfielder even if we sign him. Asa. Standalone signing I'd welcome it.
 





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This is exactly the problem.
Every arse fan I know are extremely excited by the prospect of them getting him, they think he is the midfield general they have desperately been looking for. I remember when we used to want that type of player.
Arsenal don't tend to have issues passing through teams. Their whole play is based around that. We really do because , we rely heavily on width as a preference but also because there isn't enough quality in the middle to do it. While we can definitely do with fellaini (provided he's actually good defensively and not just hard), we still need someone to improve our quality of play in the middle.
 
This summer reminds me of the year we signed Veron, settling on our third choice target after missing out on other targets and then trying to shoehorn him into centre midfield when his best position was as the advanced midfielder holding up the ball and bringing others into play. Am I the only one seeing the parallel's?
 
I don't mind Fellaini. He is a decent player and offers something different that we don't currently have in our midfield. I would be disappointed however, if Fellaini is the ONLY midfielder we sign as the signing improves us but not to the level needed to compete for the top spots in the Champions League.
 
This summer reminds me of the year we signed Veron, settling on our third choice target after missing out on other targets and then trying to shoehorn him into centre midfield when his best position was as the advanced midfielder holding up the ball and bringing others into play. Am I the only one seeing the parallel's?
Yep
 
This summer reminds me of the year we signed Veron, settling on our third choice target after missing out on other targets and then trying to shoehorn him into centre midfield when his best position was as the advanced midfielder holding up the ball and bringing others into play. Am I the only one seeing the parallel's?
Absolutely mate. Those two are so similar it's eerie.
 
Although he is not the midfielder we desperately need, he would definitely add something to our midfield that we do lack. I'm definitely for this transfer, but we do need to get that one midfielder in (basically Cesc) on top.
 
Maybe, but he'd very a very expensive extra signing at £24m, I think that's a huge price for him.
It's above is value for sure. I'd put his value between around 18 to 20 million. But 4 to 6 million isn't a big deal if moyes is convinced he's right for us. He's like a poor man's yaya toure. An all action footballer who gets involved in every are of the pitch. Doesn't have the class that Toure does.
 
That isn't the most convincing denial.

"There are no bids," the Liverpool Echo quoted him as saying. "When you read that someone is interested in someone, it doesn't mean there is a bid on the table"

What happened to, "The player is not for sale"?

Probably because he didn't need to say it? He doesn't need to say the player is not for sale in every interview/conference.
 
Saying there's no bid is pretty much the most apt way of rubbishing rumours about your player being on the brink of joining another club.
 
Decent but limited player. If he comes, will add some dynamism to our midfield.
 
What I find funny is how often people have bemoaned us not having a player like Fellaini, often naming Fellaini as a player like Fellaini, because our midfield is too nice and gets bullied by players like Fellaini (as it did last season, to the point we had to man mark him with an extra defender).

Then, when there's unfounded rumours of us actually signing him, suddenly it'd be a really poor signing and it'd better not happen. You can't win!

I reckon he'd be useful. Potentially very useful but not entirely sold on the idea. Though we'd still need another midfielder. Someone other than Carrick who can pass the ball through or behind the opposition defence.
 
What I find funny is how often people have bemoaned us not having a player like Fellaini, often naming Fellaini as a player like Fellaini, because our midfield is too nice and gets bullied by players like Fellaini (as it did last season, to the point we had to man mark him with an extra defender).

Then, when there's unfounded rumours of us actually signing him, suddenly it'd be a really poor signing and it'd better not happen. You can't win!

I reckon he'd be useful. Potentially very useful but not entirely sold on the idea. Though we'd still need another midfielder. Someone other than Carrick who can pass the ball through or behind the opposition defence.
What, like Ando did last night? Or perhaps like Kagawa did at Dortmund? Also, our midfield didn't get bullied by Fellaini last season... our defence (where we had to play a midfielder out of position) got bullied by Fellaini. That's the issue that many, including myself, have. He looks effective, if crude, playing up top. He looks like a oil tanker / walking red card in midfield.
 
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