Fellaini

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Crackers said:
Care to make a wager? Nothing too serious, but it'd be funny to see how you react if we did sign him.
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Bollox, I've already laid £200 to 10 with TN after saying my caf betting days were over. Madness since you won't get better than 2/1 with bookies.
 
I'd love to get Fellaini for the fact that everyone would write us off straightvaway. I can see him turning up for all the big games especially.
We've needed real strength in midfield for ages, I think he'd be a more useful signing than Fabregas.
 
I've no idea why there's even so much talk about Fellaini coming here, unless I've missed something. It's basically "ah Moyes is our manager - so we're signing Fellaini", and people our using it as a way to whinge. The papers haven't even bothered with that.
 
MoBeats said:
I'd love to get Fellaini for the fact that everyone would write us off straightvaway. I can see him turning up for all the big games especially.
We've needed real strength in midfield for ages, I think he'd be a more useful signing than Fabregas.
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I feel I need to clarify. If we took Fabregas we'd still be as light in midfield as we are with Clev and Carrick, we need a bit of steel.
 
Fellaini is NOT shit but he is the type of player that while will make a decent acquisition, is not what our midfield desperately needs. The midfield needs box to box operators like Khedira, a fit and an on form Fletcher, Ramires, Modric etc. What we need is someone capable of not only providing a physical presence but also covering every inch of the ground with decent passing ability, high positional awareness, tactical discipline (no elbows), work rate and stamina. Fellaini just unfortunately doesn't seem mobile or disciplined enough for me.
 
Eto'odinho said:
Fellaini is NOT shit but he is the type of player that while will make a decent acquisition, is not what our midfield desperately needs. The midfield needs box to box operators like Khedira, a fit and an on form Fletcher, Ramires, Modric etc. What we need is someone capable of not only providing a physical presence but also covering every inch of the ground with decent passing ability, high positional awareness, tactical discipline (no elbows), work rate and stamina. Fellaini just unfortunately doesn't seem mobile or disciplined enough for me.
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Good point, you brought up. We don't even know if his character quality matching with United standards.

Moyesy knows that and Fellaini seems to be more like a plan B, than priority.

I don't think, we're after him at all.
 
Eto'odinho said:
The midfield needs box to box operators like Khedira, a fit and an on form Fletcher, Ramires, Modric etc. What we need is someone capable of not only providing a physical presence but also covering every inch of the ground with decent passing ability, high positional awareness, tactical discipline (no elbows), work rate and stamina.
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Isn't that exactly what he is?
 
Not only will he bring a strong presence but that much needed height to ,from defending those corners.
 
Eto'odinho said:
Fellaini is NOT shit but he is the type of player that while will make a decent acquisition, is not what our midfield desperately needs. The midfield needs box to box operators like Khedira, a fit and an on form Fletcher, Ramires, Modric etc. What we need is someone capable of not only providing a physical presence but also covering every inch of the ground with decent passing ability, high positional awareness, tactical discipline (no elbows), work rate and stamina. Fellaini just unfortunately doesn't seem mobile or disciplined enough for me.
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Actually Fellaini is a very mobile player and is good at all things you mentioned except tactical discipline which I think he can learn. His passing is not excellent but he's good at it. I would like to sign Fellaini and think that he'll be an improvement on our team. Of course Fabregas is a different class, as are the likes of Marchisio, Gundogan or Vidal but they aren't options. I would prefer Fellaini to other EPL midfielders we have been linked (or not) like Cabaye or McCarthy or to unknown qualities like Strootman (who isn't an option anymore) or Matic.
 
He's at his level at Everton.

If he did come to United, I imagine he'd do well enough individually and probably score 10 or so goals a season from midfield. But it would be to the detriment of the team and our play.
 
MikeUpNorth said:
He's at his level at Everton.

If he did come to United, I imagine he'd do well enough individually and probably score 10 or so goals a season from midfield. But it would be to the detriment of the team and our play.
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He's a good enough passer for that not to be a problem. Every player in a team has a dedicated role and he would be surrounded by team mates more technically gifted than him much like Fletcher. He would simply have to be able to do the same work horse role and be able to keep play ticking over and pass to one of many more gifted players when necessary.
 
MoBeats said:
I think he's being seriously underrated.
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Well he is underrated. Reading some comments and I would have thought that we are going to sign Joey Barton. Fellaini (together with Dembele) is the best CM outside of top 4 on Premier League IMO.
 
MikeUpNorth said:
He's at his level at Everton.

If he did come to United, I imagine he'd do well enough individually and probably score 10 or so goals a season from midfield. But it would be to the detriment of the team and our play.
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I'm the opposite -- I think he would do worse individually since he would play deeper, but would allow Carrick and Kagawa much more freedom and improve our play on the balance.

I see it as mirroring Barca's midfield where Fellaini would do the Biscuits role, Carrick as Xavi and Kagawa as Iniesta.
 
Siorac said:
A good passer with high positional awareness and tactical discipline? No, he's not.
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He is a good passer, nothing exceptional as that isn't his style or job. His positional awareness and tactical discipline is actually rather good considering he was a defensive midfielder for a long while with us so if he wasn't good at any of them he'd be shite. But he was the best defensive midfielder in the league, 2011/2012.

This thread is just circling now. Most people who don't rate him in CM have only really started taking notice from the back of last season and this season considering that is during the times when he has destroyed you/been heavily praised by the media in the 'AM/TM' position.
 
forevrared said:
I'm the opposite -- I think he would do worse individually since he would play deeper, but would allow Carrick and Kagawa much more freedom and improve our play on the balance.

I see it as mirroring Barca's midfield where Fellaini would do the Biscuits role, Carrick as Xavi and Kagawa as Iniesta.
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I don't think anything good would come from moving Carrick higher up the field. He's a brilliant anchoring player.
 
Feed Me said:
I don't think anything good would come from moving Carrick higher up the field. He's a brilliant anchoring player.
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Fellaini would take a lot of the stress off of Carrick though which would be good at this point in time considering his age, plus it would be beneficial for younger players coming into United as a CM knowing they have a more defensive minded midfielder beside them willing to do a lot of the dirty work allowing their creative freedom to flow.
 
peterstorey said:
Can I have some of those drugs?
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Obviously I'm not saying those 3 are equal to Barca's, only that they would fulfill similar roles.


SilentWitness said:
Fellaini would take a lot of the stress off of Carrick though which would be good at this point in time considering his age, plus it would be beneficial for younger players coming into United as a CM knowing they have a more defensive minded midfielder beside them willing to do a lot of the dirty work allowing their creative freedom to flow.
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I agree with this in regards to moving Carrick up the pitch - and it wouldn't even have to be exactly like Xavi - but it's a structure that would allow for Cleverley to slot in for Carrick more often. As much as I love him, he is getting on a bit and he won't be able to play the most games every season moving forward if we want to get the most out of him for another 3 years or so.
 
SilentWitness said:
He is a good passer, nothing exceptional as that isn't his style or job. His positional awareness and tactical discipline is actually rather good considering he was a defensive midfielder for a long while with us so if he wasn't good at any of them he'd be shite. But he was the best defensive midfielder in the league, 2011/2012.
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That's a bold claim and I can't say I agree with it.

His passing, tactical discipline and awareness are all good enough for a Europa League team. United should aim higher than that though if finally we're willing to spend money on central midfield.
 
Wound anyone like to offer a comparison between Fellaini and Fletcher (a fit and in form Fletcher, that is)?
 
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