Fellaini

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Considering he was signed from the championship and turned in 3 consistent season for Everton he was a very good signing for them anyway as he cost very little. The fact he was then sold on for a huge profit makes him an excellent signing for them.

Whilst I don't think he is worth what they paid he does have a Premiership winner's medal and was a regular last season. He's PL proven and a solid player.

I remember watching Everton in the cup competitions a lot in 08/09 when they gave Chelsea two very good games in the Carling Cup semi and FA cup final. Moyes built a squad good enough to do that with these types of signings.
Yeah, I'm not knocking Moyes. He did a great job at Everton. (Actually great, not paceme great).

I just found the idea of Saha being a good signing quite funny, and Lescott is a bit of a turkey.
 
Yeah, I'm not knocking Moyes. He did a great job at Everton. (Actually great, not paceme great).

I just found the idea of Saha being a good signing quite funny, and Lescott is a bit of a turkey.

He was a good signing for them(again, relative to their resources). Complete crock for United.
 
Please not this shite, I'd hate to see him in a United shirt especially for the money being touted. We can do better, much better.

You think you can RS, but you've clearly never experienced the love of a very tall Belgian with strange hair. It can be a thoroughly electrifying experience. :drool:
 
They were superior players to Fellaini despite having the physical edge.

Not the point I was making.

Wenger is a hypocrite - moans about teams having a physical style of play. Wasn't moaning when they did exactly the same thing.
 
Who is your second midfielder, and where does our width come from?

Also, given how excited you are in the Zaha thread, why are you now advocating playing a formation that entirely excludes him, and any other winger we might have, of ever getting a game.

If signing Fellaini means we employ a formation with no width whatsoever, and we change how we play entirety to accommodate him, then Everton can keep him. He's not worth all that.

The width would come from fullback and Zaha could play wide central with carrick pushing up and Kagawa dropping deep
 
The width would come from fullback and Zaha could play wide central with carrick pushing up and Kagawa dropping deep

Zaha has a good season at Championship level football and suddenly a load of people see him as our main winger and source of wide creativity next season. Silly expectations. He's far less likely to get games ahead of Valencia and even Young, and we're probably going to bring another wide player in if Nani goes.
 
Not sold on the guy. I am not worried about his ability to play in the midfield but that he kicks, elbows and gives a lot of cheap fouls. With Scholes gone, Anderson possibly on the way and Giggs likely to have additional coaching duties, we should look to get a creative/dynamic midfielder first. Anyone from Vidal, Marchisio, Gundogan, Modric, Fabregas, Thiago etc. will do.

Then may be we can think about McCarthy or Schneiderlin as cheap back ups to Carrick.

Chelsea can have Fellani.

However, if he comes here, he will be the best box to box midfielder in the world and will have my full support. Don't think we could do better. :p
 
Zaha has a good season at Championship level football and suddenly a load of people see him as our main winger and source of wide creativity next season. Silly expectations. He's far less likely to get games ahead of Valencia and even Young, and we're probably going to bring another wide player in if Nani goes.

It was just to show how it could work :(
 
Not sold on the guy. I am not worried about his ability to play in the midfield but that he kicks, elbows and gives a lot of cheap fouls. With Scholes gone, Anderson possibly on the way and Giggs likely to have additional coaching duties, we should look to get a creative/dynamic midfielder first. Anyone from Vidal, Marchisio, Gundogan, Modric, Fabregas, Thiago etc. will do.

Then may be we can think about McCarthy or Schneiderlin as cheap back ups to Carrick.

I think McCarthy will go on to be an extremely good midfielder in his own right and will end up as more than a backup player, certainly I'd welcome the signing. I agree that the right approach would be to get an already established midfielder like suggested above, and a talented youngster who won't cost too much. We'll be set then.
 
I think McCarthy will go on to be an extremely good midfielder in his own right and will end up as more than a backup player, certainly I'd welcome the signing. I agree that the right approach would be to get an already established midfielder like suggested above, and a talented youngster who won't cost too much. We'll be set then.

He definitely is, I apologize for wording it wrong. I meant more as an understudy, ready to take over in a couple of years time. In the meanwhile, we play enough games to have a four man rotation.
 
He's a top bloody player. Whether he is what we need or not is debatable though.

God their are some morbid fannies on here, anyone would think we are being linked with a one legged Andy Hessenthaler!
 
I'd much prefer McCarthy to Fellaini. Quality on the ball, tactically aware and relatively cheap, would suit us much better imo.
 
I'd much prefer McCarthy to Fellaini. Quality on the ball, tactically aware and relatively cheap, would suit us much better imo.

I don't want either but if I were to choose I'd rather have McCarthy too. Fellaini is an extremely boring player who won't suit us at all - or worse, will suit our new style.
 
I'd much prefer McCarthy to Fellaini. Quality on the ball, tactically aware and relatively cheap, would suit us much better imo.

Personally I don't really see the point of signing someone like McCarthy who, in my opinion, is pretty much on the same level as Cleverley.
 
I'd like McCarthy but he's more so one for the future and would be more of a backup right now, as Shinjisan said above. If we bought him we'd still have to buy another midfielder.
 
Agree that we'd need to sign another midfielder as well, McCarthy would just take Anderson's role as back-up atm. He has potential though and would be as close as we could get to an understudy for Carrick. Ideally we'd sign another player who is good enough to play beside Carrick as well.

That's the main problem I have with the idea of signing Fellaini. On the one hand I don't think he's good enough (or the right style) to be the one we settle on as our 1st choice partner to Carrick, but at the same time he's too established to be a squad player (particularly under Moyes). So even though Fellaini would probably command a place more than McCarthy atm, McCarthy would be a more natural fit for both our squad and our style of play.
 
Leon Britton and James Allen are good on the ball maybe we should go for them!??
 
Leon Britton and James Allen are good on the ball maybe we should go for them!??

James Allen was a philosophical writer and poet, you're thinking of Joe Allen, the slightly shit footballer. Aside from that, I fail to see how a preferences for players of good technical ability is a bad thing. You've named two average players who are okay on the ball, I wonder how many we could name who are tall and foul a lot? McCarthy is much better than either Britton or Allen.
 
If Moyes wanted a defensive Midfielder can someone please explain to me why Fellaini would be a bad buy?

I would also like us to get a ball playing Midfielder but were we to get defensive Midfielder, Fellaini would be, imo a very good option, who can also provide a attacking threat. He also one of the few player who i have ever seen dominate Yaya physically! So if not Fellaini, then who?
 
James Allen was a philosophical writer and poet, you're thinking of Joe Allen, the slightly shit footballer. Aside from that, I fail to see how a preferences for players of good technical ability is a bad thing. You've named two average players who are okay on the ball, I wonder how many we could name who are tall and foul a lot? McCarthy is much better than either Britton or Allen.

:lol:
 
James Allen was a philosophical writer and poet, you're thinking of Joe Allen, the slightly shit footballer. Aside from that, I fail to see how a preferences for players of good technical ability is a bad thing. You've named two average players who are okay on the ball, I wonder how many we could name who are tall and foul a lot? McCarthy is much better than either Britton or Allen.

His name could be Lilly Allen for all i care.

Not sure how McCarthy became a more than average football playing in a side that he helped get relegated. I've seen him he looks tidy doesn't mean he is United quality. Britton consistently looks tidy and Allen was more than jus average at Swansea fact was it was for Swansea. Barcelona has made people obsessed by players who play 5 yard passes.
 
Kelly Kapowski getting a mention in a Fellaini thread! :lol:

I'm happy with Carrick as our defensive type, and also like that he's a ball player too. I don't think we need a ball winner type, I'd rather a tidy, sharp passing, box to box type, who can carry the ball well, rather than a bustling strong man type, which I see Fellaini as.

This is exactly what I'd like to see as well, Carrick partnered by a technically gifted and creative CM who can break from the midfield and link into Rooney/Kagawa so neither have to drop so deep to get into the game.
 
If Moyes wanted a defensive Midfielder can someone please explain to me why Fellaini would be a back buy?

I would also like us to get a ball playing Midfielder but were we to get defensive Midfielder, Fellaini would be, imo a very good option, who can also provide a attacking threat. He also one of the few player who i have ever seen dominate Yaya physically! So it not Fellaini, then who?

Exactly. If Fellaini comes here it will be to play deeper. Moyes and Fellaini himself see that as his best position but he has played further forward for Everton as needs must.

Not sure why there are so many people adverse to the signing. It would certainly improve us in an area which needs improvement.

That is good enough for me.
 
Exactly. If Fellaini comes here it will be to play deeper. Moyes and Fellaini himself see that as his best position but he has played further forward for Everton as needs must.

Not sure why there are so many people adverse to the signing. It would certainly improve us in an area which needs improvement.

That is good enough for me.

Because he's overpriced and we can do better?
 
Just a quick comparison with Fellaini and our other CM's

Fellaini - 12 goals - 8 assists

Carrick - 2 goals - 6 assists
Anderson - 2 goals - 5 assists
Cleverley - 4 goals - 6 assists
Giggs - 5 goals - 6 assists

Kagawa - 7 goals - 8 assists
Rooney - 16 goals - 15 assists

I have included Kagawa and Rooney as Fellaini has played further forward at times for Everton this season himself.

As you can see there is only Kagawa who matches him in terms of assists and only Rooney (a CF) who surpasses him in terms of both.

Anyone who sees the signing as poor needs to take a closer look at our options in the middle of the park.
 
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