Surely we can do better for that kind of money? Does anyone actually think we'd be going for Fellaini if we didn't have his former manager in charge?
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great pisstake. Classic caf.What do you make of Fellaini at United?
He's a good player for you lot, but I just don't see how he has enough quality to be a United player.
That post is shockingly insulting to Viera, Keane and Duncan Edwards and I'm still trying to figure out if its a wum
I agree.
He'd succeed. Not only would he have the manager who knows exactly how to use him as a defensive CM but he'd be around better players and improve his game which is already at a high level tbh.
Sometimes his face reminds me of Eric. For that reason alone I'd sign him up.
It's the eyebrow.
Does anyone actually think there is any guarantee that SAF would finally have signed this world class midfielder everyone now seems to be coveting?
If so based on what? Nothing indicates that would be the case in my view.He has appeared reluctant to strengthen midfield in recent years, and he does not have a good record signing midfielders in general, especially continental types. Only Carrick bought since Keane who has been a success.
Can't believe after all this waiting for a midfield signing and people are already whining, especially when at least we now seem to be showing some willingness to buy. Does anybody really think SAF was going to sign a Fabregas or a Moutinho? Really? He had plenty of time to yet didn't, and i don't think money was an issue. He seemed more than happy to buy for everywhere else but in the one place that could have stood the most improvement.
Signing a midfielder who is competent defensively and nothing more is not ideal, but would still improve our midfield options. That is a sad admission of how poor SAF let our midfield situation get. We need more in there so let's do what SAF asked of us, back the judgement of our new manager and then judge him accordingly. Rather than whining like bitches because we may not be getting the world class signing many of you now seem to expect!
All im suggesting is that there was no guarantee you would have got the marquis midfield signing you want, or any other for that matter if SAF had stayed.
He has easily as much as Fletcher, and more than Jones in midfield. I don't see how people can watch some of his performances in some of Everton's best results against big teams and believe him average.
But if it was down to ability alone then Gary Neville and fletcher would not have made it here. It's sometimes a question of determination and character and an ability to produce your best when it matters in the biggest games.
Isn't that what we will remember Fletch for, more than anything else? His determination to dominate and have an impact. For all Carrick's ability, one of the criticism's aimed at him is that he disappears under physical pressure, and doesn't have that fletcher like determination and desire to stamp his authority no matter who we play.
You need ability as well as desire and determination. We have plenty of technical ability in our team but not much steel or physicality. We are far too lightweight in midfield at present, Fellaini - whether he is everyone's ideal signing or not - will certainly change that.
Fellaini as an upgrade for Ando makes a lot of sense, even if it means a huge sum spent for him, although I assume we can get 6-8m for Ando, bringing the net cost of acquiring Fellaini to around 14-16m, which is not unreasonable for a solid squad man.
But if we're looking for the attacking midfielder we've all been dreaming of, and assuming we're all writing off Cleverley as little more than a good squad man, Fellaini just aint the answer.
The search for that killer mid continue. Modric or Fabregas, both "linked" to United, perhaps. There's another young Dutch midfielder, in his early 20s -- not named Strootman -- who had a really good season. I can't think of his name. Does that ring a bell with anyone?
But if we're looking for the attacking midfielder we've all been dreaming of, and assuming we're all writing off Cleverley as little more than a good squad man, Fellaini just aint the answer.
The search for that killer mid continue. Modric or Fabregas, both "linked" to United, perhaps. There's another young Dutch midfielder, in his early 20s -- not named Strootman -- who had a really good season. I can't think of his name. Does that ring a bell with anyone?
Jordy Clasie? He signed a new contract not long ago.
I don't want us to sign Fellaini either but I don't get your "looking for the attacking midfielder"? Who says we want an attacking midfielder?
The way we have been playing (4-2-3-1) means there is plenty of potency in attack, it's just finding a partner for Carrick. Granted there is no way to know Moyes' preferred formation but your way of thinking stilll leaves us with poor old Carrick facing opposition attacks.
I personally think him coming to United is extremely likely. We lack steel in midfield, he wants to play there and clerly wants to move on.
There's talk of a clause in his contract allowing him to leave for £20 million. I personally think he's worth that.
People keep saying "we could do better" but don't suggest an alternative. Clearly the likes of Modric and Fabregas would be great signings, but they're not the same type of player so to me its irrelevant.
Yeah, but you're Andy Carroll-man, you don't seem to realise top4 teams need real quality.
Some people have a stick up their ass regarding Fellaini. I can only come to the conclusion they enjoy having a stick up their arse..
Why are you so certain that Fellaini is a heap of shite? I remember getting laughed at for saying Valencia could make a huge impact when we signed him. I remember saying the same about Bale when most were saying he was nothing but an over rated speed merchant with nothing else. In fact most of the time you will get some nasty little fecker on here like you trying to laugh at everyones comments. I think a midfield pairing of Fellaini as a number 6 with Carrick moved a little more forward than usual will be a powerful midfield 2 next year with Kagawa or Rooney dropping back to help them out. I think your going to look as much as a fairy as most players on your team are next season with all your Fellaini bashing on here.
Who doesn't seem to realise? The club who has finished top of that 4 more than anyone else ever?
Anyway, if the likes of the Arsenal back four, Gervinho, Chamakh et al can finish in the top four, I am sure Fellaini playing in the current champions side won't have too much trouble.
Because I've seen him in numerous games where his 'star' quality is fouling people. Your post up the road was such a pile of steaming turd that most people thought it must be a lame joke of a strange colour or smell.
Fellaini would clearly only be wheeled out a few times a season to deal with the likes of Stoke and West Ham.
20m for that is worthwhile right?
20m for that is worthwhile right?
He wouldn't be wheeled out a few times a season. SAF isn't your manager. Moyes is your manager. The manager that starts him whenever he is available. I guarantee that him/Baines/Jagielka/Howard are always the first on the team sheet. If Moyes bought him then he'd be playing regularly.
Arsenal are almost anti-physicality these days so i wouldn't expect any arsenal fan to like him, but that said despite Pete saying it in a typical wummy way, his point really is true, he isn't good enough for Manchester United's midfield and he does foul too much. He doesn't suit our style of play at all and I think some fans have become so desperate for a new midfielder that suddenly anyone is acceptable.
That said, Pete, who do you think would actually suit our midfield?
That said, Pete, who do you think would actually suit our midfield?
Someone with less pointy elbows preferably.
A fab ex Arsenal player from Barcelona might do it.
Anderson and Cleverley would easily walk into the Everton first XI imo when at times they struggle to get a game at Manchester United. We have different requirements, and play a different brand of Football. I don't think Fellaini is anywhere near good enough or what we should be looking for. He doesn't suit our style of play at all. I can't think of anything worse than Fellaini marauding through our midfield in a champions league game.
No they wouldn't. Anderson is too inconsistent for us and Cleverley hasn't shown to be as good as everyone believed he'd be when he first broke into the first team. Anderson is on last chance saloon possibly but Cleverley can still be a very good player. He's just good at best right now for me.
Fellani yellow cards by season
12/13-9 yellows 30 league apperances
11/12-6 yellows 23 league apperances
10/11-3 yellows 20 league apperances (one straight red as well)
09/10-6 yellows 23 league apperances
08/09-12 yellows 30 league appearances
Of course you have to add in the red card he should have got at Stoke last season.
12/13-9 yellows 30 league apperances
11/12-6 yellows 23 league apperances
10/11-3 yellows 20 league apperances (one straight red as well)
09/10-6 yellows 23 league apperances
08/09-12 yellows 30 league appearances
Of course you have to add in the red card he should have got at Stoke last season.
Well Darron Gibson did walk straight into their first team...
You seem very sure that he'd fail. He'd foul a lot less with us as we have more of the ball than Everton.
I'd personally like to see him here, we haven't had many goals from midfield in recent years and that would probably change if we signed him. He strikes me as the type of player many are opposed to us signing but after a few months he'll probably have established himself as a fans favourite and we'll all be strangely fond of the constant elbowing he gets away with, until he gets sent off obviously.
He wouldn't have to play every game as long as we still have Cleverly, Anderson and Jones and I could see him, Carrick and Kagawa being a really effective trio. I know it's not a priority but he'd strengthen us at set pieces at either end as well. I'm struggling to see the negatives regarding this transfer regardless of the price tag.
Well I'd rather a midfield two of Anderson and Cleverley, for us than Fellaini and anybody.
He could probably still get a game for you now.
Not true, he doesn't possess the required range of facial expressions.
I reckon that Fellaini would prove a lot of people on the Caf wrong if we ended up signing him. He's a much better footballer than a lot of posters on here are giving credit for and would improve us.
We've lacked that bit of steel in midfield for years now and who is to say he'll be the only CM we'll sign? especially if Anderson is sold and Fletcher retires.
We've lacked that bit of steel in midfield for years now and who is to say he'll be the only CM we'll sign? especially if Anderson is sold and Fletcher retires.
He's committed the most fouls in the PL this season. More than tiote.
Fellaini = Felashio
It's not rocket science - you need a Modric or Fabregas (dream on), everybody knows that including Ferguson and Moyes
I'm not convinced he even has a range of facial expressions. Does mouth open and mouth closed constitute a range?
Way over the top, you are clearly underrating him.
Obviously he isn't anyone's first choice but he would definitely improve us. He would make us a much more solid team through the middle and he isn't close to being as poor technically as some like to point out.
He's not fit to clean Scholes' bloodied boots in that department.
I honestly don't think his disciplinary record is that much of an issue and will improve seeing as we have more of the ball and he's unlikely to be involved in quite as many aerial duels, though Everton are hardly some bunch of long-ball merchants themselves.
I agree.
The are a few other options who would improve us as well. Fellaini isn't even close to being one of them but he has a fair few fans on here including one who rates him above Viera, Keane and Duncan Edwards. Jesus wept.
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