I'm not sure, but it would be a bit like having a lamp post in midfield, which I think would be quite appealing.
I really don't want us to sign him. Not sure who we can get though.
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I'm not sure, but it would be a bit like having a lamp post in midfield, which I think would be quite appealing.
I really don't want us to sign him. Not sure who we can get though.
we could get Peter Crouch and Felliani together
we'd have the best basketball team in the league
we'd have the best basketball team in the league
back on topic, he doesnt look like a United player, but Moyes has worked with him so if he does bring him in, ill reserve judgement
He played the majority of this season as a no.10.
2011/12 Most Tackles In the PL:
10. Kyle Walker (Tottenham Hotspur) – 96 Tackles
9. Marouane Fellaini (Everton) – 99 Tackles
8. Alex Song (Arsenal) – 100 Tackles
7. Youssuf Mulumbu (West Bromwich Albion) – 101 Tackles
6. Patrice Evra (Manchester United) – 104 Tackles
5. Maynor Figueroa (Wigan Athletic) – 107 Tackles
4. Scott Parker (Tottenham Hotspur) – 107 Tackles
3. Joe Allen (Swansea City) – 110 Tackles
2. Moussa Dembélé (Fulham) – 113 Tackles
1. Yohan Cabaye (Newcastle United) – 116 Tackles
Even that season he was played further forwards on occasion.
According to EPL talk:
Not sure how they have Fellaini as 2nd most tackles. Presumably they base that off tackles per game rather than total tackles.
Stats are misleading and can be twisted either way. They don't paint the whole picture. However to try and claim that Fellaini doesn't make tackles. Sorry, but the stats don't back that up at all.
Good post
Dembele would be quality for us wouldn't he?
Fellaini is a good player but I'm not sure if he is right for us.
Fellaini is a good player but I'm not sure if he is right for us.
To be honest I still can't understand why we would have not tried to to sign Dembele last summer.
Me too, although I suspect a part of the reason was because Ferguson still had hopes that Fletcher would return at some point that season.
Not to mention that we do actually have a decent amount of players who can play in central midfield already - Carrick, Cleverley, Anderson, Giggs/Scholes.
But it is clear to most people that we are lacking some serious quality there and therefore the likes of Dembele would have been ideal in my opinion.
Schneiderlin is pretty decent. Interesting that he tops the tackling charts... mind you Geoff Cameron is in it so it's not exactly a list of stars.
Well sorry, no disrespect to Fergie, but I hope Moyes does not continue this line of not signing midfield players on the basis that Cleverley and Anderson are still young. Neither are great talents, and are unlikely to ever become real top bracket.
He would have never not signed a top striker on the basis that we have a few veterens up front and some decent young ones. It seems Fergie just didn't value centre-midfield as highly in his latter years.
Cleverley is a great talent. But it would be best if we did not rely on him entirely, and were able to play him in a more forward position sometimes.
Anderson is also a great talent but surely he's had his chances now and failed to take them.
Anderson is also a great talent but surely he's had his chances now and failed to take them.
Cleverley is like an upgraded version of Osman
Moyes will love him
Moyes will love him
Anderson lives off 2nd bites of the pie
Scholes retired and there's no way Giggs can play on a regular basis. Cleverley has been a bit average lately and Anderson has been below even that. Carrick is our only reliable midfielder right now and if we go into the next season with that squad we'll be fecked.
I think we need 2 midfielders at least. One should be too class, the other one could be just decent to make up the numbers and give us the option to play tight with 3 men midfield - someone like Diame, Wanyama or even Schneiderlin could do that.
If we could get him for £20m i think that would be a decent price. £20m isn't much these days for a young midfielder, and i do think he would give us physical attributes and a bit of steel that we currently lack. He and Carrick would form a far more solid shield in front of our CB's than anything we could currently muster.
Is he the best choice out there? Probably not, but we do need another defensively competent player in midfield. Carrick has been brilliant, but had he have been injured for any length of time we have absolutely no reasonable defensive option in there. We need cover at least and Fellaini would give us that and more. Would also give us a far more balanced and solid 4-2-3-1 with him alongside Carrick. I believe that system best suits our attacking players, all we lack for it is another solid all round CM. Fellaini is at least that, and in my view would offer much more besides.
There are probably better options and should we try and sign any better options then great, but failing that i personally would still be satisfied that our midfield options had still been improved by signing Fellaini.
Is he the best choice out there? Probably not, but we do need another defensively competent player in midfield. Carrick has been brilliant, but had he have been injured for any length of time we have absolutely no reasonable defensive option in there. We need cover at least and Fellaini would give us that and more. Would also give us a far more balanced and solid 4-2-3-1 with him alongside Carrick. I believe that system best suits our attacking players, all we lack for it is another solid all round CM. Fellaini is at least that, and in my view would offer much more besides.
There are probably better options and should we try and sign any better options then great, but failing that i personally would still be satisfied that our midfield options had still been improved by signing Fellaini.
It's because some people never learn. They just make assumptions about a player and keep running with them despite the presence of evidence to the contrary. The myth that he can't play in enter midfield is a prime example. Even despite a link to an article with proper statistics on him as a proper midfielder have been made available to all on here.
The way some talk about him on here, one would think he is a truly mediocre player who plies his trade as a hatchet man in the championship. Not the kind of player who comprehensively bullied us in with a top display in our first league game of the season.
And I'll never shift my opinion on that. It's injuries that have stalled his career. Not lack of abilityYou still think that Ando is a magnificent player....
No, it's his laziness and perhaps slight lack of talent for that particular position he's played at United.
I don't think anyone has suggested that. There's a difference between not thinking he's right for our style (a fair view) and saying he's a completely useless clogger (an unfair view).
Unfortunately not just one pie.
He bullied us playing up front, not in midfield. Why do people keep throwing that game in as an example, when he wasn't playing the role we'd be buying him for? It doesn't seem to matter how many times this is pointed out though, the same point gets trotted out.
Fellaini bullied us as a target man. Dembele bullied us as a central midfielder
Not that he cares about winning me over but signing Fellaini would be the worst possible start for Moyes' job of winning me over.
He still bullied us. Whether it was as a number 10 or centre midfielder. He was all over the place that game. He took on our fullbacks won everything in the centre.. steam rolled Carrick and Cleverley. But of course he needs to do that starting from centre midfield to please you guys.
People forget he's a £15m player who has justified his price tag and a well established player for his national team which consists of Dembelle and Wistel.
Well if we're signing him as a central midfielder then yes, he does need to do that from central midfield rather than as a striker.
Would you like Fellaini as our new number 10 behind RVP in place of Rooney? That would be an underwhelming attacking signing if ever I've seen one.
If bullying our defence is the perquisite for whether we should sign someone for our midfield why don't we try and buy Lukaku as our new midfield partner for Carrick? He bullied our defence on Sunday, afterall.
Just a bit nick picking: He stream rolled Cleverley AND Anderson as CM. Carrick was a centerback. He bullied us using his height. It's the same as many average strong strikers used to bully Evans in the past, but I don't see us looking to buy them.
It's not even true anyway, he was rarely up against our midfield, since he was playing up front.
Cleverley and Scholes, Anderson came on with his name spelt wrongly in that match.
Completely agree.
It wasn't just the injuries though.
But thats the thing. He's not Andy Carroll. Neither does he play at that level. So maybe you should show him abit more respect.
Well said and that's the main point that many choose to overlook. He has produced some unplayable performances against big teams and in big games. That suggests something about his character in my view, he has that desire and determination needed to step up and dominate a game. Obviously he can't dominate a game like Scholes or Xavi would, but he undoubtedly has enough ability and intelligence to stamp his authority and make a difference.
In my view it's simple, Fellaini offers much of what we lack in midfield, and the added physicality, workrate and determination alongside Carrick would make us far more solid through the centre.
Everton play their most influential player where he can cause the most damage. They would be less effective as a team playing him deeper which is why they don't. That certainly doesn't mean he can't play deeper. He totally dominated City a few years ago - well before any of his more recent displays against Utd - and he did so playing central midfield.
As a Utd player i would expect him alongside Carrick, but with more license to get forward. We probably wouldn't play him off the striker, simply because we have more talented players than Fellaini to play there, yet he would still provide us with that extra option.
Yes, and then in the second game this season - when we actually knew what Everton were doing with him - we put Jones on and Fellaini barely got a sniff all night. It's all well and good talking about how good he is at that quite specialised role he plays, but he's really only good in that role. A tactical one trick pony, easily nullified if you're ready for him. Play him anywhere else or give him any other job and he's back to just being a decent mid-table midfielder.
One thing is for sure if he signs for us all these little elbows he likes to throw out will be highlighted a lot more, I'm not keen on him to be honest and think there is probably better options about.
Well if he's on our team we don't have to sacrifice Jones do we. Lets be honest too he would be the first good player to have a bad game against us, Anderson absolutely takes the piss out of Fabregas didnt you know.
Who Strootman, Waymana Moutinho? Are these guys actually better than him?
He's Andy Carrol plus Darron Gibson
It don't matter he will get a big move anyway. Whether its us chelsea or someone else. We'll jus have to wait and see how it works for him and make our judgement again.
Wouldn't be the first average player to have a good game against us either. In fact the latter happens a lot more often than the former.
You wouldn't have to sacrifice Jones, no. But the other team simply has to do something similar and you've wasted a midfield slot that could have been filled by someone genuinely world class, rather than someone who occasionally looks vaguely world class in a very specific role when played against a team who doesn't know how to nullify that approach.
I don't hate the idea of signing Fellaini. I just think it would be mad if there's any chance of getting anyone better, and there are a lot of better midfielders out there.
Generally world class like who? Cleverley, Anderson Powell. Thats our current midfield crop unless I'm missing something. We are not Everton we have RVP, Rooney and a bunch of good wingers (form permitted). If they would want to focus on Fellaini thats their issue.
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