What makes you imagine the French man would be any cheaper?
Fellaini
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I think Fellaini's game is definitely different to Carrick's. He's a box-to-box CM who offers a serious goal threat. But he can also lay deep and protect the back four, using his physique, when asked to.
My point is, while we are looking for a midfielder who'd flourish alongside Carrick, we also need someone who can form a steady partnership with Cleverley (or Anderson, if he stays) when Carrick is not playing. Fletcher was the go-to man, but there's so much uncertainty about his health condition. So I wouldn't mind having Fellaini here.
Having said that, if we have the chance to get someone like Fabregas, of course we shouldn't see Fellaini as a priority.
There's some nice touches in that video to be fair. I agree with you that maybe my perceptions are being distorted by the fact that he's played as a 10 so much this season. I think, as you say, it all comes down to what type of CM signing we need this summer - if it's mid-range, then yes, Fellaini will be fine. I happen to be in the boat of thinking we need someone really (potentially) top class.
Thing is, I don't see us getting a Bale, or someone of that quality, that would mask our central midfield deficiencies once more. I'll be worried if we come through the summer having signed a mid-rang CM and a mid-range winger - wont really represent an upgrade.
I take your points on Fletcher, but I think his ball playing skills were quite underrated. If anything, it was all the physical aspects of his game that he'd worked so hard to develop - he was always adept with the ball.
I'd wager that we hold, on average, as much possession, and that we clock up as many passes, as any team in the league.
I don't think any other side in the world monopolises the ball quite like Barca.
Agreed though. We tend to shade possession.
When Fellaini finally makes his move to a big club he will make a fool of many of his detractors.
IF Fellaini does move to us, I'll wholeheartedly support him, as I do any new signing we make. That said, I think there are valid reasons to worry that he's not suitable for our style. I don't see why debate always has to be reduced to 'I told you sos'.
I don't think Fellani is going to negatively affect the possession stats. His job would be to win the ball in the midfield and pass it to the attacking players ahead of him. We won't depend on him to provide creativity and move the game forward.
However, I won't be thrilled if we signed Sirfoulsalot. Too many elbows, too many kicks and too many cheap fouls. In this day and age when football is almost a no contact sport, I fail to his use at a top team.
In my opinion, a more creative player should be the priority before we go ahead and spend money on a Fellani or a Wanyama. With Scholes gone and Anderson being Anderson,we need a dynamic presence in the middle of the park. A player who would move around and combine with Kagawa, the wide players and our strikers. Someone with vision and intelligence to make the right pass. Jones can do the job in the games where we have to shut shop and play exclusively on the counter.
Gundogan, Wilshere, Modric, Fabregas, Vidal etc. are the kind of players who will improve us a team. Fellani would be a step sideways. Rather we buy a young player like McCarthy and have him as an understudy to Carrick, ready to take over in a couple of years time.
However, I won't be thrilled if we signed Sirfoulsalot. Too many elbows, too many kicks and too many cheap fouls. In this day and age when football is almost a no contact sport, I fail to his use at a top team.
In my opinion, a more creative player should be the priority before we go ahead and spend money on a Fellani or a Wanyama. With Scholes gone and Anderson being Anderson,we need a dynamic presence in the middle of the park. A player who would move around and combine with Kagawa, the wide players and our strikers. Someone with vision and intelligence to make the right pass. Jones can do the job in the games where we have to shut shop and play exclusively on the counter.
Gundogan, Wilshere, Modric, Fabregas, Vidal etc. are the kind of players who will improve us a team. Fellani would be a step sideways. Rather we buy a young player like McCarthy and have him as an understudy to Carrick, ready to take over in a couple of years time.
Then it sounds like we are more or less in agreement. As with Chief though, I do think that if/when Fellaini moves to a big club he could surprise a lot of people. Time will tell.
Like many I have concerns about surrounding the fact he's been mainly played up front but this myth that he can't play in midfield as a result is exactly that.
He's consistantly played well behind the striker but I've seen him dominate midfield on occasion too.
He'll be a success here IMO and you may as well get behind it because I'm in no doubt he'll be joining.
He's consistantly played well behind the striker but I've seen him dominate midfield on occasion too.
He'll be a success here IMO and you may as well get behind it because I'm in no doubt he'll be joining.
He would be a perfect Scholes replacement on the disciplinary side.
Here goes any chance to win the fair play award.Certain enough to bet 4K on it on Skybet?
He will be a useful player for us and is better than all but Carrick out of our current midfielders. I think that we will end up enjoying a bit of nastiness in the side.
He will improve the squad certainly. Personally I would prefer a player with a little more panache like Gundogen or Thiago.
I've already got money on it
I wanted a double on Rooney leaving and Fellaini joining but couldn't find/figure out how to do it.
I've already got money on it
I wanted a double on Rooney leaving and Fellaini joining but couldn't find/figure out how to do it.
You have to go in to a shop and ask, or ring them up if that option is available.
There's a lot of things about Fellaini's game that could help any side. He's physically very imposing, he puts his foot in and contrary to the general belief, his use of the ball tends to be pretty good. He's actually a pretty intelligent player going forwards. I just am not sure he's that level of technical quality that I think we need.
He is also good on set pieces and we have become a bit of a set piece side recently. I agree with your assessment of his technical quality though, it just doesn't seem up to scratch.
That said
----------Fellani-----Carrick---------
---------------Rooney--------------
Bale-------------------------Kagawa
---------------RVP------------------
People used to say the same about Fletcher.
Fletcher was never a foul merchant. His passing was underrated and he was more mobile.
Isnt he Anderson MkII, in that he cant finish full games? I might be wrong though.
He is a fitter Anderson, in my opinion. Dribbles past players and makes runs in the box a couple of times a game. Positioning and passing are suspect at the best.
Cabaye and McCarthy would both be much cheaper than Fellaini and better suited to a midfield partnership with Carrick, or deputizing for him. I really can't figure out why so many people are happy for us to fork out £23m for a player like this.
I think Fellaini is a very good player, but I share others' doubts about him as a midfielder. He just lacks discipline, both in the positional sense, and in the occasionally nutting other players sense.
Surely his transfer fee is all but speculation right now?
You still think that Ando is a magnificent player....
The Chief is stubborn, he'll never let that one go.
Well, whatever it is, that's his buyout clause, Everton paid £15m to get him and he still has three years left on his contract.
He won't be cheap, that's for sure.
I think Anderson is an excellent player, who is wasting his talent. He's at the wrong club too.
You still think that Ando is a magnificent player....
And you still think we have a realistic chance of signing Ronaldo and Fabregas.
It won't be less than the quoted sum. Everton themselves paid 15m pounds for him.
I can see why Moyes may want Felliani. First of all the move between Everton and United is pretty daunting. A barren run + 1 - 2 bad signings will certainly put Moyes under pressure. So its only fair that Moyes, will try and play it safe by bringing someone who he can trust. Secondly Felliani will give us a different approach to the game. We haven't had a tough tackling fighter in CM ever since Keane retired. Finally Felliani gives Moyes options. He can play as a DM, or as an AM when needed.
Moyes teams had always been pretty physical. You cant expect the manager to change his attitude in just few weeks.
Moyes teams had always been pretty physical. You cant expect the manager to change his attitude in just few weeks.
He's not really a tough tackling player though is he? Most of the time he only wins the ball because he's so mahoosive it's impossible to get round him.
He looks to me to be a bit of a lazy tw*t a lot of the time, talented though he is.
He looks to me to be a bit of a lazy tw*t a lot of the time, talented though he is.
He's a tough guy and from stats (yellow cards) hes renowned in getting involved in the game
Most of his yellows are from being a narky git who fouls a lot.
he's like Whiteside, only shitter with bigger hair
I bet he can't drink as much as Big Norm.
Most tackles this season (courtesy of Daily Mirror)
Schneiderlin 146
Leiva 123
Diame 114
Zabaleta 113
Ramires 112
Cameron 112
Yacob 109
Arteta 108
Sidwell 105
Lowton 105
tough tackling? He doesnt make tackles
like i said, shitter
unless he's hiding a full scale boozer in his hair
which is entirely possible
He should dye his hair bright white.
...why?
No, no, no
He's over rated, over priced long ball merchant. If Moyes signs him just shows what football we will play.
He's over rated, over priced long ball merchant. If Moyes signs him just shows what football we will play.
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