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Not a huge fan of Fellaini but we really did need to sign someone. Not a bad price either, all things considered. He'll definitely give us more depth and adds a new dimension to our team that wasn't there before. I still have doubts over whether he suits our style, whether he's good enough defensively, whether he's a good enough passer and whether we could have got someone better for that price. Hopefully he proves me wrong on all those counts.

So, we'll now have more quantity in central midfield. Hopefully we'll add some serious quality before the window closes too.
 
Rising to £24 million :lol: Will believe it when we make the mistake

If it ends up that high, then it would certainly be no brilliant business by Woodward. He could have gotten him for that kind of money ages ago and Fellaini could have participated in the pre season instead of being thrown in when the season is already at full swing.
 
Rising to £24 million :lol: Will believe it when we make the mistake


what part of this is funny, and what part is a mistake?

considering the term "rising to 24m" can mean any number of potential contractual obligations that may not be met, and his buy out clause was 23.5m.
 
Nothing against it if its true, it strengthens the squad. Fair price.
 
If it ends up that high, then it would certainly be no brilliant business by Woodward. He could have gotten him for that kind of money ages ago and Fellaini could have participated in the pre season instead of being thrown in when the season is already at full swing.
We obviously have no idea how the transfer is structured as far as the timing of payments. I doubt Everton were going to accept anything below the full release clause upfront when his clause was active in July.
 
The signing of Fellaini (and Baines) would be depressing because it would be indicative of Moyes's mediocre mindset, something we have seen glimmers of with his backroom signings.
 
If it rises to £24m then it's likely he'll have been a success. Barely more than the buyout clause by all accounts.
 
He was always going to come. I think people will warm to him quickly.

Also, wouldn't be surprised if that 'marquee' signing is made, on top of this before the window closes.
 
Not a huge fan of Fellaini but we really did need to sign someone. Not a bad price either, all things considered. He'll definitely give us more depth and adds a new dimension to our team that wasn't there before. I still have doubts over whether he suits our style, whether he's good enough defensively, whether he's a good enough passer and whether we could have got someone better for that price. Hopefully he proves me wrong on all those counts.

So, we'll now have more quantity in central midfield. Hopefully we'll add some serious quality before the window closes too.

He's immensely strong, I mean really strong and he's very difficult to get off the ball and great in the air obviously, but for a side that has a lot of possession I too am not sure if he passing is good enough although if his job is to win the ball and pass it to Carrick every time it could work. But for £24m you want a bit more. He'd definitely add goals because of his sheer presence at set pieces and he's at a good age and I do think he's ready for this move. How much he can improve is debatable though.
 
For feck's sake people, he's a CM, a pretty decent one at that, and some are complaining!

Ok, we missed out on Thiago, who decided to go with his former manager, that seemed out of our hands.

We went for Fabregas, not surprising he was going to stay because they just lost one CM, and he said the entire time that he wanted to stay.

We were interested in Modric; he is staying because Alonso will be out for 3 months and they are now pretty thin in the CM department, plus Ancelotti likes him it seems.

We look like we may be getting a CM, I would be happy it isn't Leon Osman and instead is a capable midfielder who could very well flourish in this United team.
 
The signing of Fellaini (and Baines) would be depressing because it would be indicative of Moyes's mediocre mindset, something we have seem glimmers of with his backroom signings.

Yeah - should have brought Jose in as number two. Or kept Mike Phelan. Either really.
 
I'd be quite happy with £20m rising to £24m, said all along that I didnt understand why people were worried about his buy out expiring when it was clear he could be bought for that (or potentially less) at any time

although i cant see any decent source for this news so could all be bollocks
 
Who cares about the price. WE MIGHT ACTUALLY SIGN A MIDFIELDER!!!!!!

/spastic mode off
 
If it ends up that high, then it would certainly be no brilliant business by Woodward. He could have gotten him for that kind of money ages ago and Fellaini could have participated in the pre season instead of being thrown in when the season is already at full swing.

It's possible that Moyes took a lot of time before deciding to go for Fellaini.
 
He's immensely strong, I mean really strong and he's very difficult to get off the ball and great in the air obviously, but for a side that has a lot of possession I too am not sure if he passing is good enough although if his job is to win the ball and pass it to Carrick every time it could work. But for £24m you want a bit more. He'd definitely add goals because of his sheer presence at set pieces and he's at a good age and I do think he's ready for this move. How much he can improve is debatable though.

He's definitely ready to leave Everton, I'm just not sure if he's a United player. I'm not sure if his passing is quite good enough either, but I'm actually more concerned about him defensively. A lot of people seem to think his presence will shore up cm but I'm pretty sure Carrick is better at that role as he has a greater positional sense. Fellaini will bring more aggression and physicality but that isn't quite the same as being good defensively, I wouldn't be surprised if other teams can still run through our cm.
 
If PSG are offering 40 million for Pedro, and average players like Bale are worth 100 million then 26 sounds fair. Even an unproven player in Illaramendi went for 36 million.
 
A lot of people saying 'he will strengthen the squad', so we are spending £20M+ on a filler, not even a first team regular starter?

So that's the cost of a squad player these days, £20M?

Is he better than Cleverly/Anderson or on a par? Would we be selling either of those 2 for £20M? I don't think so.

He's clearly NOT a squad player.
 
If it ends up that high, then it would certainly be no brilliant business by Woodward. He could have gotten him for that kind of money ages ago and Fellaini could have participated in the pre season instead of being thrown in when the season is already at full swing.
I think we were waiting a bit because we were hoping to get somebody better, which didn't work out in the end..

For this price, I would say the risk was worth taking..
 
Can one of the caf hero's enlighten me as to why so many people are against him coming? I hear the line 'he is not a United player' fairly regular. Somebody, please educate me.
The hair. Just not United. And unfortunately it's a problem with no solution.
 
A lot of people saying 'he will strengthen the squad', so we are spending £20M+ on a filler, not even a first team regular starter?

So that's the cost of a squad player these days, £20M?

Is he better than Cleverly/Anderson or on a par? Would we be selling either of those 2 for £20M? I don't think so.

He's clearly NOT a squad player.

Young, Anderson, Nani and Jones were all purchased for similar enough fees and you could argue they're all squad players.

Having said that, I do think he'd start the big games for us over Anderson or Cleverley. Possibily with Cleverley and Carrick.
 
Reckon we'll be in for Baines next summer, with Evra getting a bumper payday at Monaco when they're in the CL.


Baines if it doesn't happen this summer then won't ever happen. He'd be 30.

Luke Shaw is more likely.
 
A lot of people saying 'he will strengthen the squad', so we are spending £20M+ on a filler, not even a first team regular starter?

So that's the cost of a squad player these days, £20M?

Is he better than Cleverly/Anderson or on a par? Would we be selling either of those 2 for £20M? I don't think so.

He's clearly NOT a squad player.

"Strengthen squad" doesn't mean "not a first team player".

And besides at the level of quality expected at United, £20 million would be a fair price for a "squad player".
 
A lot of people saying 'he will strengthen the squad', so we are spending £20M+ on a filler, not even a first team regular starter?

So that's the cost of a squad player these days, £20M?

Is he better than Cleverly/Anderson or on a par? Would we be selling either of those 2 for £20M? I don't think so.

He's clearly NOT a squad player.

20 million is the new 7-10 million. It's almost impossible to get a world class first team regular for 20 million. Unless it's an RvP situation with an expiring contract.
 
He's definitely ready to leave Everton, I'm just not sure if he's a United player. I'm not sure if his passing is quite good enough either, but I'm actually more concerned about him defensively. A lot of people seem to think his presence will shore up cm but I'm pretty sure Carrick is better at that role as he has a greater positional sense. Fellaini will bring more aggression and physicality but that isn't quite the same as being good defensively, I wouldn't be surprised if other teams can still run through our cm.

I don't think his short burst movement is great either and he's not quick by any means. You have to get around the pitch in centre midfield, putting fires out and I don't think his movement is great for doing that and yes you could see someone like Ramires or Toure running straight through there. That's where he'll be playing though, there's no doubt about it.
 
Please let this be true !

I want to here something official and see the great wig in a United shirt !
 
I think Everton's quotes and posturing have been quite funny anyway. They are a selling club so it was all pretty unnecessary. I read on Twitter that perhaps Moyes has been hoping to get Baines in the deal so as to prevent Everton from having to pay Fellaini's ex club (can't remember their name) a sell on fee. Say £35 million for the pair but pay £34 million for Baines and 1 million for Fellaini. Everton keep the majority and only pay a small sell on fee for Fellaini.
 
The signing of Fellaini (and Baines) would be depressing because it would be indicative of Moyes's mediocre mindset, something we have seem glimmers of with his backroom signings.

I would agree with that had he not tried for Fabregas first.
 
I'm glad we've twitter signed him, it's like only a few more real life steps away from being actually signed.
 
I think Everton's quotes and posturing have been quite funny anyway. They are a selling club so it was all pretty unnecessary. I read on Twitter that perhaps Moyes has been hoping to get Baines in the deal so as to prevent Everton from having to pay Fellaini's ex club (can't remember their name) a sell on fee. Say £35 million for the pair but pay £34 million for Baines and 1 million for Fellaini. Everton keep the majority and only pay a small sell on fee for Fellaini.


That would actually make a lot of sense but would be hugely dishonest.
 
what part of this is funny, and what part is a mistake?

considering the term "rising to 24m" can mean any number of potential contractual obligations that may not be met, and his buy out clause was 23.5m.

Old ground, £24 million is paying over the top. His buyout was over the top, thats why we didnt pay it
 
I think Everton's quotes and posturing have been quite funny anyway. They are a selling club so it was all pretty unnecessary. I read on Twitter that perhaps Moyes has been hoping to get Baines in the deal so as to prevent Everton from having to pay Fellaini's ex club (can't remember their name) a sell on fee. Say £35 million for the pair but pay £34 million for Baines and 1 million for Fellaini. Everton keep the majority and only pay a small sell on fee for Fellaini.
This is insulting and derisory!
 
The signing of Fellaini (and Baines) would be depressing because it would be indicative of Moyes's mediocre mindset, something we have seem glimmers of with his backroom signings.


Over the summer that's become a concern for me- is he too set in his ways? Have we hired a small time manager for a big time club?

We'll have to wait and see. Not enough data at the moment - as you say, just straws in the wind.
 
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