Fair enough. Anyway fellaini did alight today. Like I said, Barkley was the most impressive if their midfielders.
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Everton certainly didnt get the best of him in his role today imo, but yes he proved he could play the Carrick role decently. I think he needs to be playing furthest forward of a midfield 3 like Lampard did at his best, allowing him to win the ball high up the pitch and get forward into the box as much as he wants to, with 2 players providing the cover behind him if the move breaks down.
The lads got good technique and is still young enough to improve a lot, especially when surrounded by the kind of quality we have in defense and attack. So let's get this guy signed up quick!
In an ideal world we need 2 quality midfielders but one will do for the time being. We have plenty of options and cover for the attacking midfielder role anyway.
In an ideal world we need 2 quality midfielders but one will do for the time being. We have plenty of options and cover for the attacking midfielder role anyway.
He'd do a good job for as I've said before. Needs to improve his passing I reckon. At united he'll hopefully learn to be more consistent and creative with his passing. He thinks quickly enough.
fecking hell...
That's just what you want to hear when you're looking for a midfielder
this lot are going round the fecking twist, he's never a top level player.His creativity and passing are massively underrated by many of you.
He isn't. But he's still a good one.That's just what you want to hear when you're looking for a midfielder
We already have him.
Ahhh, but we need a deep lying midfielder.
Creativity? Not really. Thats not what he does. He's pass and move and simple teamplay and does it very well, so the team creates something at the end of it. He's not unlocking defences, he's finding the right passes and touches for progressive team play
Passing wise he's a better, more composed Cleverley, who again isn't that creative. But we play better with him in the team because he sees passes early and moves the ball along well, as does Fellaini
OK I meant deeper than an AM. As in a central midfielder, you have won the battle of semantics.
But I do think we need a midfielder who has robust defensive qualities and can sit next to Carrick. Somewhat similar to midfield partnerships like Martinez and Schweinstieger or Gundogan/Sahin or Bender.
Fair enough, but I think his creativity might surprise some of us when he signs.
I have not been following this thread, it's a no brainier for me. But I thought you were dead set against this move?
That's just what you want to hear when you're looking for a midfielder
I reckon he will be, within a couple of seasons of being with us.
Depends on the price. I think he's a £20 million player. I dont think he's the best option but he's a good player who many underrate on the ball in terms of skill and pass and move football. He's not just a head on a long stick, he's actually decently talented and shows good intelligence in his passing and movements into space in the buildup. And he's composed with it, something our midfielders bar Carrick and Giggs lack. For example Cleverley passes the ball on with good tempo and accuracy, but always seems in a rush.
At the same time when people talk about his defensive qualities I think they vastly overrate them because he's strong and aggressive. He made the most fouls in the league last time he was playing in central midfield and watching him closely in a couple of pre-season matches but more importantly the first 2 matches of this league season, I think those who think he's a top DM will be surprised with how easily some players have got past him at times. He doesn't really sense danger and snuff it out, ala someone like Carrick either. But he still makes some nice interceptions at times as he reacts fast and he still makes a bunch of tackles overall.
His overall kit is very good, but I think last season made it absolutely clear you want him playing as close to the opponents goal as possible without having to use him as a striker/in the hole because he's not quite as canny as the number 10s out there. But he can cause a lot of problems for the opponents when he gets forward and can join into the box. Therefore I'd always want to play him as the more attacking of a CM pair or ideally the most advanced of a midfield 3.
TLDR? I think he's a good player, just hope we don't pay too much for him like we've done for other players at the end of the window
The newbie was bad today. Olsson should have gotten a red for the foul on Jelavic and it should probably been a pen on Olsson in the first half but understandable that the ref was hesitant. He won't grab headlines for not giving a penalty so he went with the safe route.
Wouldn't say that Fellaini had a good game. His passing was the same as Mulumbu's. Was missing a few times when WBA hit Everton on the break. Still is suspect of giving away possession in his own half. Overall he's been average at best against two average sides.
Well footballs all about opinions and I have to say I disagree with yours there Snow. Not so much with your points, but the fact that he didn't have a good game. He isn't a rolls royce player, and will avg between 85-90% passing. But he was influential today, and controlled the flow of the game. Plus he had some decent attempts on goal.
I think he had a good game. Arguably 2nd but definitely 3rd best if not, player on the pitch. Foster was best and some have suggested Barkley as 2nd best but I think its close with Fellaini
The thing that annoys me the most about this transfer is that we could have got someone like Stootman for half the price, and he's younger and just as good.
I think it's pretty obvious we're looking for proven performs for our midfield. Which Strootman isn't.
Have to agree with this. So far all of our targets have been very proven performers and their signings would bear almost zero risk in terms of how they would fit into our midfield.
Fellaini is PL proven and Moyes knows him inside out. Fabregas - enough said. Thiago - one of the best young CM's in the world with huge upside potential.
I think Moyes is very wary of making risky signings in his first couple of months at the club... and is going for the safety first route. Can't blame him too much in that respect.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb...er-united-transfers-evertons-fellaini-2226030
Haha £25 million just for Fellaini when last week we bidded £28mil for him and Baines! What are we like.
Haha £25 million just for Fellaini when last week we bidded £28mil for him and Baines! What are we like.
So the guardian are going with it.
Why didnt we just pay his release clause?
Why didnt we just pay his release clause?
I think we should have done it to be honest.. Would have also given him the time to gel with the team before the season started.. £23m isn't too steep for him anyway..
That article is clearly bullshit. It suggests that Everton might offer less than Wigan want for McCarthy. Surely that isn't the kind of suffering Everton would inflict on somebody else.
Wigan will be angry and insulted etc etc
Maybe Fellaini was a backup option? By the time we decided to go for him the release clause had already elapsed?
I can see us wrapping this up sometime this week. £25 million, considering our need for a midfielder, is an OK fee.
Someone like him could've proved the difference in a match like tonight, a 1-0 win from a Fellaini header...
Someone like him could've proved the difference in a match like tonight, a 1-0 win from a Fellaini header...
We will be utter retards if we end up paying more than the release clause. I don't think that'll happen.
Exactly.
Would be pure idiocy on our part.
I can see us wrapping this up sometime this week. £25 million, considering our need for a midfielder, is an OK fee.
Someone like him could've proved the difference in a match like tonight, a 1-0 win from a Fellaini header...
Telegraph are saying it's a £20m bid. £25 would be okay considering how desperate we are but signing him for more than his release clause would definitely highlight how bad a window we've had so far.
Because he isnt worth £23 million, obviously.
Gonna be fun come around xmas time when the harsh truth dawns on all the Fellaini believers.
That Santa isn't real?
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He is a scintillating footballer.
He wouldn't have helped in a game like tonight. It was creativity from the centre we needed, not more defensive steel.
He'd have his place in other games, but can't see him making the difference in a big game unless he oafs in a corner or something.
He'd have his place in other games, but can't see him making the difference in a big game unless he oafs in a corner or something.
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