So every established PL player we buy is going to be a hit at this club ? And for the record I thought Valencia was a good signing for us.
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So every established PL player we buy is going to be a hit at this club ? And for the record I thought Valencia was a good signing for us.
This is what you said. It is wrong.
His transfer signings and his football knowledge do not seem limited to the EPLbecause they aren't. So people won't judge on this basis.
fecking finally. Well played, moses.
His post was as clear as mud but I think he was trying to say that that would be how Moyes will be perceived should he only bid for prem/ex prem players from outsiders, not what devilish actually thinks himself.
Sneaking suspicion this is all just a smokescreen for Sneijder. Moyes correcting the errors of Fergie one by one.
He got ample opportunity to explain that himself, here and by PM. He chose to be vague and sarcastic and make a Guinness based joke/reference. Which didn't go down well.
Devilish tries wind ups and when they don't come off he tries to make it seem like he was expressing a rational opinion. It's his game. I really don't see how he's still on the forum or what he himself gets out of it but fair play to moses
Well personally I'm hoping for a hybrid system but my problem with what you're saying is that do you think Fellaini is the man to let us compete in europe? That's my point, I can see that Fellaini makes us more solid than Clev and Ando, but I don't see how he makes us a solid as say a Bayern like system which you mentioned at all and he's clearly not good enough on the ball to try a possession based game.
So personally I don't see how his acquisition is going to seriously let us close the gap in europe. So whilst I agree with your general premise that you can use two solid midfielders without an out and out deep creative hub, I don't think Fellaini quite fits that bill, I've not see any top defensive work from him, nor have I seen him as the energetic presser. He's good good ability on the ball but I've not seen that in terms of his passing and his best link up play that I've seen has come where he's ahead of the main creator, i.e ball to Fellaini which he steers towards an on-running Pienaar.
I'm not against his transfer, as I said I'll take him over no one. My preference would be for a creative player as I think that would give us more in the league and then we could use that to build for europe and also to add a younger/cheaper enforcer. But if we were going for a more physical player as our main signing then whilst he is a decent option I've not seen much to make me think he's going to be the answer. I still think next summer we'll be talking about needing a midfielder.
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Don't you start. We know what he was saying and it was bollocks - see post #5002 (5000
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Martinez confirms there has been no further approach from Manchester United over two players #EFCWe're preparing the second bid, 29.5m for the pair. We might be ready to submit it in January.
So that's that then, at least we tried to sign them..
We'll go back in.
Ah I know, I just hope it's soon and not in the last second of deadline day. As exciting as that sounds!
We should've sorted the Fellaini deal before the Chelsea match.
I think it needs to be completed by tomorrow for him to be eligible to get registered against Chelsea. Shocking planning.
I think it needs to be completed by tomorrow for him to be eligible to get registered against Chelsea. Shocking planning.
I can't tell if you're being tongue in cheek here or not.
Tongue in cheek why?
Do you think this deal will be completed by tommorow?
The transfer window has been open for 52 days. Fair enough if they didn't wanted to pay the release clause in Fellaini's contract but that contract also expired 22 days ago. I thought we needed some re-inforcements for the Chelsea match.
Well he should have been. We could do with him. Then again he should have been signed for pre-season. Moyes should realise we don't care if a marquee signing comes first or last.
you dont rush to buy a player just because of one or two matches - even if he signed a few days ago he wouldnt start against Chelsea.
I'm never serial! I'm super happy right now though, Ronnies coming home day today. I've got a flag and everything.
This is the bit that I thought was tongue in cheek. I agree if this transfer does go through there's absolutely no chance of it happening in time for the Chelsea match. But you can't plan transfers that will cost tens of millions of pounds for players who will affect the direction of the club for many seasons based around one match.
You could criticise not buying players in time for the start of the season in general, if you felt that way inclined. But it's silly to suggest that 'not buying him in time for Chelsea' is a failing.
Obviously I didn't wanted him JUST for the Chelsea match. I'm saying that if we're buying then I'd have liked it to be done before the Chelsea match so that we could've faced with a stronger squad.
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I was thinking the same - if we are buying him it would be good if the deal is concluded early
Really think he could bully the likes of Mata, Oscar, Hazard etc...
You called it 'shocking planning' not to have him for Chelsea. It's obviously not. I doubt they would even factor whether we get him a day before or a day after any specific match into the equation. In the grand scheme of a signing a couple of matches here or there doesn't mean much.
Not read much this morning but I saw on BBC that he's also said Fellaini/Baines havent let it get to them, so if it was an unsettling tactic it hasn't worked and it will take big money to pry them away.
Martinez did the same to Wigan, he should shut up.
No he didn't. Kone was paid for by his release clause. Alcaraz was on a free and Robles wasn't a Wigan player.
How is that any different? If anything it's worse, since it was Martinez himself who was the manager when that clause was negotiated.
It's the transfer market, with the window wide open. Fair enough, the bid wasn't enough but nothing else needs to be said. Martinez bringing it up every day is what will unsettle players.
It seems so nice when you put it like this. But how did Martinez know about the clause ? Additionally no one from United spoke about the bid.
Do you think we would be as outraged if Fellaini had been sold by his release clause? Nope.
Moyes knew about Fellainis clause but decide not to pay it for whatever reason, I doubt it was just Martinez who knew about the Kone clause too, these things never stay secret.
So you'd rather get less money for him? Because we're sure as hell not going to get him more as little as was stipulated in the release clause.
It's a crappy situation for Martinez, new job and everything. He sees us make a late move for two of his players, he knows that if we bid enough we'll probably get them, at least one of them. At this stage, from his point of view, while he would like to keep them, he knows chances aren't in his favour so he may actually want us to offer a good deal, be done with it and use the money.
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