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King Kenny is so 80's. Now he's KKK.
Irrespective of whom he's going to buy, Moyes will be judged on success. If he fails to bring success on short/mid term then people will still judge his transfer signings and his football knowledge which seems limited to the EPL (whose lets face it is hardly the best league to make bargains)
The Belgian press are claming we are very close to signing him, apparently
will midfield muppet mania be satiated by this signing or will Fellaini fail the quench the thirst?
The Belgian press are claming we are very close to signing him, apparently
please make it stop
There is a fallacy permeating this forum about how Fellaini is not cut out for United. I have been watching football for almost 30 years and spent 14 years coaching it and over that time I think I can spot the strengths and weaknesses of most players I watch. Here is how I think Fellaini would work out at United.
Advantages
He would solidify a midfield that has been lacking a consistent ball winner and physical presence since Roy Keane.
His passing is short and simple.
Surprisingly quick footed with the ball in tight situations
His aerial presence at set pieces will be beneficial for us in both boxes.
His overall aerial ability is probably unsurpassed in the PL
He does have an eye for goal in the box and I imagine he would get close to 10 for us per season.
Worked with the manager before.
Disadvantages
Lack of pace could hurt in a fast flowing game. However if he is to sit the furthest back in a midfield 3 that may not be that a big of an issue.
His temperament is questionable at times and he might pick up cards quite regularly.
Does not have a long range shot or the ability to score many outside the box
Not consistent enough with through balls or incisive passing
As you can see, for me, the advantages outweigh the doubts. I think what has been made clear by Moyes transfer targets this summer
is that he values players with premier league experience and to me that is the key with Fellaini.
He isnt the big extravagant latin signing everyone is clamoring for and because he is perceived as a long ball donkey many on here
dismiss him as being a legitimately good player for us. I think overall he would give us an extra edge in both boxes and some steel in midfield and
certainly would flourish being surrounded by better players.
Will you?
Disagree that he's a consistent ball winner. He'll win the ball at times but he's also beaten too easily at times. He'll foul a lot to break up play but thats not winning the ball.
You're overrating his ability in the air. A bunch of players win it more than him even though its obviously his strength and he'd be one of our best headers
Could get 10 for us but depends on position. He's never done that from CM, not even slightly close. It was 3 in the league when he last played in midfield. Could do it from in the hole as it was 11 last season. Do we want him there?
Disagree that he lacks pace. Its fine, its just not impressive and not going to lead to him getting on the end of moves on the break and not often managing to get into the box as an extra target if we have a quick tempo. If we have a slow build up then its more likely he can be in there.
Disagree that his temperament is questionable. Its not. Its bad. He gave away the most fouls in the league when he last played in midfield for Everton, somehow only 6 yellows to show for it.
Disagree with lack of a long shot, he scored a couple last season and generally took his goals pretty well. Would probably be our best long shooter from CM, but thats probably the case with most CMs we could sign as Cleverley, Anderson, Carrick and even Giggs hardly set the bar high...
He would add aggression and power to the midfield for sure. But we've been very successful in the past without it
Yes, like Fellaini, who he was so sure about he spent £15m on, despite him being a 20 year old from Belgium.
Or Mirallas, Oviedo, Jelavic, Naismith, Velios, Bilyaletdinov, Heitinga, Gueye, Jacobsen, Coleman...
In fact, at a quick count, I'd say in the last 5 seasons, Moyes signed 16 first team-ish players. Of those the above 11 were from outside England, while only Saha, Distin, Gibson, Beckford and Neill were from England - and those 5 were pretty much all free.
will midfield muppet mania be satiated by this signing or will Fellaini fail the quench the thirst?
I doubt he would come right in and start anyway, even if we do buy him.
Disagree that he's a consistent ball winner. He'll win the ball at times but he's also beaten too easily at times. He'll foul a lot to break up play but thats not winning the ball.
You're overrating his ability in the air. A bunch of players win it more than him even though its obviously his strength and he'd be one of our best headers
Could get 10 for us but depends on position. He's never done that from CM, not even slightly close. It was 3 in the league when he last played in midfield. Could do it from in the hole as it was 11 last season. Do we want him there?
Disagree that he lacks pace. Its fine, its just not impressive and not going to lead to him getting on the end of moves on the break and not often managing to get into the box as an extra target if we have a quick tempo. If we have a slow build up then its more likely he can be in there.
Disagree that his temperament is questionable. Its not. Its bad. He gave away the most fouls in the league when he last played in midfield for Everton, somehow only 6 yellows to show for it.
Disagree with lack of a long shot, he scored a couple last season and generally took his goals pretty well. Would probably be our best long shooter from CM, but thats probably the case with most CMs we could sign as Cleverley, Anderson, Carrick and even Giggs hardly set the bar high...
He would add aggression and power to the midfield for sure. But we've been very successful in the past without it
The Belgian press are claming we are very close to signing him, apparently
This was claimed by them a few weeks ago..
What's different this time?
Yeah, they've been known to waffle on a bit.
Do you think they're speaking truffley or are they making things up?
Literally cannot think of any more things unique to Belgium.
You win this round Gazza..
Cina's pun was much better, well done sir
Literally cannot think of any more things unique to Belgium.
You win this round Gazza..
Disagree that his temperament is questionable. Its not. Its bad. He gave away the most fouls in the league when he last played in midfield for Everton, somehow only 6 yellows to show for it.
Cina's pun was much better, well done sir
lol, he pissed on your fire.
No way, mine rocked.
Cina's was incredibly flat and boring.
This always amuses me. Did Scholes have a bad temperament based on the fact he was a shit tackler?
This was claimed by them a few weeks ago..
What's different this time?
Exactly. That's where he found Fellaini in the first place. I think he was playing for Fulham.Irrespective of whom he's going to buy, Moyes will be judged on success. If he fails to bring success on short/mid term then people will still judge his transfer signings and his football knowledge which seems limited to the EPL (whose lets face it is hardly the best league to make bargains)
Exactly. That's we're he found Fellaini in the first place. I think he was playing for Fulham.