as long as he will be able to beat his man consistently Im all for it
Felipe Anderson
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Come on let's sign him he got an in form on FIFA a few weeks ago
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A top right winger who can score goals and has a great final ball? He'd be competing with Lingard, Memphis, Young and Mata out on the wing.... I'd say we need anyone who is half decent on the wing with pace. Hell, half the premier league wingers would walk into our side. Let alone De Bruyne who is a brilliant player. He's not the perfect fit like Sanchez would've been, but he's got enough pace to be a threat on the right as he's shown for city.
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This would explain his downturn in form, what with space suits and hooves being a bit of hindrance to good technical play.
I said earlier he's been our best outfield player, but he's also not scored anywhere near enough. Missed a few sitters.
He's been class I know, but my point was he's not entirely lived up to his £36m+ price tag. Not a problem yet, of course, because he's always improving. Another issue is he's been stuck out on the wing way too much.
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He can't score every chance he gets. Finishing wise he's been fine. If we created more chances he would score more, simple as. For a 19/20 year old, 7 goals after half a season in a side struggling going forward as much as ours is fine. Just look at how many goals the likes of Messi, Rooney and Ronaldo scored at that age. All between 10-20 goals in all comps for the season. Martial is on course for that.
Also, with him, he's not being stuck on the wing. If anything, I like him more on the wing right now as he can get more involved and be more of a constant threat. He's by far our best winger and the only one in our team who can make something happen consistently. Everyone else out wide or up front is shite so its harsh to blame him for not having 15 goals already when he's the only one in the front 4 who has the slightest bit of pace, creativity or goalscoring ability.
We have/had no top quality #10 and he's far more adept at playing out on the right as a wide playmaker than Mata is.
He's not a right winger and he's not blessed with pace?
I mean, I agree, he's a very good player. But he's basically a slightly more mobile version of Mata, and I thought the point of this clamouring for pace and width on the right was just that. De Bruyne wouldn't really give us much we don't already have. He'd probably be an improvement on Mata, but hell, if you gave City Mata and we had De Bruyne I'm pretty sure we'd all be talking about how much a better player Mata is, we have a tendency to make that sort of player look really shit.
Considering most of us had only seen him play versus Arsenal, he's exceeded expectations. He was 19 when we signed him and is already our best player. I don't know what expectations you had but I think most here are very pleased with him.
I regret mentioning Martial now
the only point I was making is that he was very expensive for a youngster, and spending a similar amount on Anderson might be a bit crazy. I couldn't give a shite if it works out though. Not my money anyway!I disagree with the latter part... he's been great on the wing and as you say he's definitely our best winger (not hard), but I think he's going to be the perfect centre forward. He's strong, tall, has excellent feet and can score goals. Why not play him up top considering we have no other bloody options? I suppose then we'd have no options for the wing
JesusPoint 2 is essential in any winger we sign. We are one of the worst teams in the league in one v one situations all over the pitch. It's a disgrace.
Why are you trying to make out that I think Martial's been shit? I've been very pleased with him too, but again, my point being we've spend £36m (isn't it now £46m after he won golden boy?) on him. Another £40m on Anderson and we're beginning to invest and rely a bit too much on "players with potential".
He the sort of player we should avoid under this management. All flair, no work ethic will be a suicidal addition to this squad. However, he might be different and break the current players progression cycle over the past two years at United.
I know you don't think he's been shit. You made at clear in your post. Your saying looking at a £36m signing objectively, you'd expect more. We have to look at everything in context especially his age. We paid that price for the footballer he's going to be. Even now he's our most potent threat. That's enough for me.
He plays as a right winger for City, and has been a lot more of a winger then mata. Obviously, he doesn't have explosive pace, but he isn't slow by any means, more like a 7/10 pace and can run with the ball. Not to mention he has a great final ball which is one of our biggest problems. Agree we tend to ruin most attacking players, but De Bruyne I feel would be more suited to Van Gaal's game then either Di Maria or Mata as a wide player.
I keep hearing this thing. Aren't there any South Americans that have prospered under this coach?
Rivaldo?
Yeah, money wise I don't really care how much we spend just so long as we get better players then what we have considering we're loaded. And yeah, basically your last point is why I don't mind him on the wing. He's basically our best winger and striker by an equal distance ahead of the 2nd best so either way, I don't mind.I regret mentioning Martial now
I disagree with the latter part... he's been great on the wing and as you say he's definitely our best winger (not hard), but I think he's going to be the perfect centre forward. He's strong, tall, has excellent feet and can score goals. Why not play him up top considering we have no other bloody options? I suppose then we'd have no options for the wing
That far back and even he did not like him
It's not so much South Americans as Brazilians I think, and Felipe Anderson is very much a less talented Di Maria, a completely unsuitable player for us while LvG is manager.
I never said I'm expecting more on a £36m signing either, although I did say he hasn't scored that many but I realise he's young and all that. I think he's been class.
The reason I'm including his price tag is mainly because of my point that we have to be careful not to invest and rely on such young "potential players". Memphis was about £25m too. For these prices we could get experienced players who'd definitely improve us in the short and long run. Hopefully Martial turns out to be the world class player we all expect him to be, and Memphis steps it up too, however we won't see that for at least 2/3 years.
Does he have the pace of Di Maria? I don't watch much Serie A but the people who do were posting in the summer that he was more of a #10 and not the paciest, which would make him quite redundant with Herrera, Mata and not to mention Memphis and Pereira around here.
I wouldn't say as fast as Di Maria but certainly fast enough from what I've seen, pace is the one area of his game I'd not be worried about.
yeah looks like it from his UEFA profile:
http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/association=ita/news/newsid=2227457.html
Well he doesn't though, he plays from the right, agreed. But he has the freedom to come inside, and spends as much as the time influencing play inside as he does on the wing, if not more. I certainly wouldn't call that a 'winger'. He does have more pace than Mata, which gives him the option to go down the outside, but I'd hardly argue thats his strength. Correct me if I'm wrong, but is the clamour not for a tricky, pacy, wideman, who can beat a man, cross the ball, and chip in with goals? For all of De Bruyne's undoubted virtues, he's not the first player I think of for that criteria.
Rivaldo won whatever the world player of the year was called back then under LVG
shame those stats are not applicable to the player this season, if he'd managed to develop from where he was last year he'd be a more interesting option.
I can't say I'd find this a very inspiring signing, especially at the price mentioned. I'd happily eat my delicious words though.
Any creditable source reporting this or is it this window's big story of linking a player to United which never materialises?
Nobody knows our business, no real credible sources but a few reporting it. Probably a nothing story but he'd be a nice addition.
I've not seen him this season, though. Don't take that as me saying that he hasn't been as good this season.
I agree with you, but he's the level of player who could have come in and had an immediate impact for us like he's had for City, instead of resorting to going to players with potential like we pretty much need to do now.
That player from Benfica who somehow always gets linked with United every transfer window. It's like a meme.