It’s a tweet with 200 likes mate after the ongoing story for roughly a month now you believe this? The drones were also seen in the UK is just an example of this being utter bollocks
FBI says it has no answers for "Mystery drones flying over New Jersey"
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It’s a tweet with 200 likes mate after the ongoing story for roughly a month now you believe this? The drones were also seen in the UK is just an example of this being utter bollocks
Untraceable apart from all of the videos? I'm amazed how cloaking technology has advanced. Maybe why they have put navigation lights on them? Oh wait.
And even if the assertion of their size is true, and none of the video that I have seen does prove this at all, then perhaps ....
Looks like you want to believe, or more likely need to believe. Do you think it is in any way likely that the UK and US military wouldn't react if this wasn't just idiots with drones?
It very much looks like they do. And it is that very technology that detects them and causes the shut down. And the shut down is not depended on the type of drone used. Obviously.
What? There are drones outside the US? Say it aint so.
What? There are drones outside the US? Say it aint so.
You’re linking a tweet with 200 likes about a test over NJ……when there are sighting outside of that area….
Amazing how you think somebody can just turn up and fly a drone for weeks on end with no consequences in a no fly zone, like you seem to have zero idea how drones even operate
What is it pal a group of kids with early Christmas presents having a laugh?
Cases where cheap hobbyist type drones have shut down airports or military sites or similar. I'm sure there are more but I can't be bothered Googling further.
1. Gatwick Airport Shutdown (2018) – UK - 1000 flights cancelled
2. Dubai International Airport Disruptions (2016-2019) – UAE - many flights cancelled
3. Changi Airport Disruptions (2019) – Singapore - flights cancelled and diverted
4. Frankfurt Airport Incidents (2020) – Germany - operations stopped until it was identified that this was a hobbyist flying too close.
5. Madrid-Barajas Airport Shutdown (2020) – Spain - operations stopped
What Happened: In February 2020, Madrid-Barajas Airport temporarily halted operations after reports of drone activity near the runways.
6. Quito Airport Incident (2019) – Ecuador - drone collided with a Boeing 737 during takeoff damaging to the plane’s wing.
7. Heathrow Airport Drone Disruption (2019) – UK - Flights were suspended
8. Norwegian Military Base Incident (2022) – Norway - drone sightings were reported near several Norwegian military installations resulting in temporary lockdowns.
9. Washington State Military Drone Incident (2019) – USA - drones were reported near military installations in Washington state, leading to security alerts.
10. U.S. Nuclear Site Incursions (2014-2020) – USA - Drones have repeatedly been reported flying near restricted U.S. nuclear facilities, including bases such as Oak Ridge and others in Colorado and Arizona.
1. Gatwick Airport Shutdown (2018) – UK - 1000 flights cancelled
2. Dubai International Airport Disruptions (2016-2019) – UAE - many flights cancelled
3. Changi Airport Disruptions (2019) – Singapore - flights cancelled and diverted
4. Frankfurt Airport Incidents (2020) – Germany - operations stopped until it was identified that this was a hobbyist flying too close.
5. Madrid-Barajas Airport Shutdown (2020) – Spain - operations stopped
What Happened: In February 2020, Madrid-Barajas Airport temporarily halted operations after reports of drone activity near the runways.
6. Quito Airport Incident (2019) – Ecuador - drone collided with a Boeing 737 during takeoff damaging to the plane’s wing.
7. Heathrow Airport Drone Disruption (2019) – UK - Flights were suspended
8. Norwegian Military Base Incident (2022) – Norway - drone sightings were reported near several Norwegian military installations resulting in temporary lockdowns.
9. Washington State Military Drone Incident (2019) – USA - drones were reported near military installations in Washington state, leading to security alerts.
10. U.S. Nuclear Site Incursions (2014-2020) – USA - Drones have repeatedly been reported flying near restricted U.S. nuclear facilities, including bases such as Oak Ridge and others in Colorado and Arizona.
You understand that this document relates specifically to the corridor in NJ, right? And knowing that, you should probably understand that the drone incursions over military bases recently began outside of the United States. Does that document account for nightly drone activities over US airforce bases in the UK for a month before NJ even becomes a thing. Do you know that roughly half of the drone incursions in America are at military bases outside of New Jersey? Same activity, nightly. Same pattern of behaviour. Same lack of response in every instance.
The mayor of New Jersey is complaining about these things.
The mayor of Queens is complaining about these things.
The NJ police are complaining about these things.
Senators, politicians, current and/or retired military are complaining about the lack of decisiveness regarding these things.
The governor of New Jersey too wants answers.
Do you honestly and seriously believe that the US Military pre-announced drone activity to take place and then when it did they had the Pentagon, Homeland Security, the FBI and the White House all deny it publicly in public statements? Come on now. Do the math.
Most are planes and helicopters. The rest are drones with navigation lights. The NJ tests may be part of these "sightings" but whatever the cause there is no evidence of anything nefarious going on. Merely hysteria by people who need more excitement in their life, or the self validation that they get from being smarter than other people (in their own minds), by believing conspiracy theory nonsense. All exacerbated by social and actual media coverage.
It's a shitshow over nothing.
If it was meaningful threat or actual unknown high tech drone it would have been blasted from the sky quicker than you can say "what's that," and the news wouldn't even hear of it. All you would get are some tweets they heard a bang near the area.
If it was meaningful threat or actual unknown high tech drone it would have been blasted from the sky quicker than you can say "what's that," and the news wouldn't even hear of it. All you would get are some tweets they heard a bang near the area.
A lot of flight testing on military platforms are classified and denied until legally obligated to not deny.
And you do realise that one single things can't explain everything. Obviously. And may just be an example of why there may be a few more drones in the sky and that has in turn lead to this hysteria?
All of the people "complaining" or "seeking answers" are either subject to the same hysteria, using the hysteria for their own political advantage (as they see it) or making sure they aren't seen to be asleep at the wheel in the unlikely event that anything nefarious is were ever found to be going on. Of course all we need it for it to be found that one of the numties with a drone from Santa is in fact a foreign operative with a cheap drone from Santa taking advantage of the hysteria, to make things more hysterical or cause more disruption at airfield or military bases and the hysteria/conspiracy theory cycle will REALLY go into overdrive. To the amusement of Russia/China/whoever.
Don't muddy the waters with rational arguments please.
You don’t usually get to see a conspiracy theory with your own eyes though, there’s no hiding these things they’re all over NJ in plain sight just like they were over the uk bases
I’m 99% convinced they’re military drones running some operation/test but when they release these daft statements saying they’re stars or commercial drones they just raise more questions
It's absolutely hilarious the hysteria these has generated.
For example, Wright-Patterson detected some small-medium sized drones hover near the base.
Wright Patt has a permanent CRAM battery and a permanent NASAMs battery.
If it was actually deemed a threat then they would have been wiped out. It's a bunch of hobbyists and kids pissing around with cheap drones and the USAF know it.
For example, Wright-Patterson detected some small-medium sized drones hover near the base.
Wright Patt has a permanent CRAM battery and a permanent NASAMs battery.
If it was actually deemed a threat then they would have been wiped out. It's a bunch of hobbyists and kids pissing around with cheap drones and the USAF know it.
There may well be drones of whatever ownership being used or tested (with navigation lights) as per that example where the program was publicly announced. So what? Why is that of note or in any way alarming? Plus most of the "sightings" aren't even drones (planes, helicopters and even constellations).
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Read between the lines.
Drone incursions are really common, most countries don't even report them - for some reason this has gotten media traction.
At Lask I would see random shit hover around the border fences every week or so. The Poles didn't give a shit and just said locals were having fun.
Using FPV's or Commercial small drones to do spying is the most ridiculous thing ever - when you can get 30cm resolution LEO's to just take pictures legally.
But they can't be detected or traced. Except how did they know they were there if that is true? My brain hurts.
It's ai gone rogue.
They're studying, watching and waiting to strike.
This is where it all begins.
They're studying, watching and waiting to strike.
This is where it all begins.
But they can't be detected or traced. Except how did they know they were there is that is true? My brain hurts.
Low RCS FPV drones is a hilarious concept that is so ridiculous it's not even worth discussing.
To achieve Low RCS you need specific shaping and the cheap quadcopter design with its rotorblades light up on radars like a christmas tree.
Then you need a layer of RAM coating which a) is classified and b) costs a fortune.
It's tactically and strategically useless and no major military in the world is taking research down that direction.
To try and fly that within a few KM's of MW level AESA radars is also redundant as the sheer power of the radar will detect it at that range.
A four arrayed AESA radar can detect an F-35 at around 18km, but appears with an RCS of 0.005m^2. Which is an order of magnitude parity with an insect.
There is just no way any technology exists in the world which an AESA radar cannot detect at such close ranges that is also a fecking remote controlled drone. It's just insane.
It's just a bunch of nonsense.
My daughter in Bayside Queens is actually looking at three of these things right now. Exactly the same size. At 9:10 pm EST
Saw them in long island tonight as well. They've been spotted in a few other towns out here. I'm very close to the airport and I'm afraid it's actually airplanes but a few others have confirmed it isn't.
No. One is hovering overhead. One is going in circles.
Should we tag Barbara?
I’ve seen enough videos of hobby drones being shot down after buzzing over a military base or airport to know that the hobbyist narrative is weak. Yea there will be some idiots copying with their DJI drones but it will be in public airspace not protected airspace.
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No she’s looking at planes and she should have gone to specsavers
Not like this they’re not, in multiple countries over multiple air bases with comments coming from the top of government and presidents on the situation
We have officials on record saying they go dark when approached and are undetectable.
The narrative that it’s a load of kids or idiots flying with their toy drones is ludicrous, you don’t get to show up at army bases for a month straight and fly a drone without repercussions
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Casually revealing to the world that manned stars are now a thing.
Undetectable haha, okay. Nothing is undetectable with AESA radar at that distance.
I was at Lask and would see drones every weekend. For years straight.
Depends which ones. RAF Northolt doesn’t care as much, Lask doesn’t care, Ramstein often shoot first ask questions later.
Depends on the nature of the base and such.
The videos ove seen, some with many hundreds if not thousands of comments on Reddit, have been planes appearing to hover because they're a long way away but moving towards the camera, close ups of stars that are out of focus, a shiny thing stuck in a tree, a helicopter, and what may have been the sun obscured by clouds.
None of them were even drones.
None of them were even drones.
Personally I find it concerning that it is being perpetuated by congressmen and senators receiving classified briefings. This whole thing is just strange.
So far there is no evidence publicly available to suggest that there is anything in the sky that the government shouldn't be able to easily track and identify - yet you have government officials, senators and other elected officials stating after briefings to the media that "we have no idea what they are". Not one video or image is showing anything other than ordinary drones, airplanes, stars, Chinese lanterns, quadcopter jokesters, AI generated nonsense or lens flare. A handful look like military and law enforcement - probably US government.
On Cable News elected officials are talking about "mysterious drones" with video of airplanes and helicopters running in the background. Officials in NJ talking about law enforcement flying above 6 foot drones that "go dark" when approached, and that doesn't show up on FLIR or radar, or swarms hovering above critical infrastructure that "they don't know what are or where they come from".
It's all a bit crazy.
Has anyone from the Senate Intelligence Commitee or Defense Commitee said anything?
Most senators and congressmen do not get classified briefings.
Gilibrand and Blumenthal.
Only Blumenthal is on a relevant sub-committee and even then I'm not quite sure if Airland tactical subcommitee gets classified briefings on drone incursions.
But his comment was basically, "If its a threat shoot it down."
Christ, I’m in queens right now working and there are 5 black helicopters in a row spread out hovering looking I guess for these things. Bizarre and a little unnerving. I’ve counted about ten in a 5 mile square radius.
It's more the fact that he said "the government doesn't know where they are coming from". Gilibrand has been on CNN repeating that we can't see "them coming", "stop them" or "track them" - highlighting events at Langley and Wright-Patterson as examples.
Now, it is entirely possible that a lot of lawmakers are just using NJ media exposure for legislative purposes, but it certainly hasn't helped "quell" the "hysteria".
It’s kids with drones and the stars they said
Think your underselling it a bit mate this is nothing like we’ve seen before in terms of drones over multiple US bases and they don’t run secret congress meetings and get word from the president and FBI over a few kids flying drones or what was the other one they’re stars?
No doubt this has escalated with random people flying drones to join in the action it’s a well publicised story but I don’t think they had a fecking clue what’s going on with those initial drone incursions a few weeks ago
There are posters on here in the area reporting black copters in the sky etc, I’ve seen a report from multiple people saying some of these things look to be the size of SUV’s it’s just odd
The scale seems to be it’s either aliens or kids with drones I believe it’s probably a government test of some sort but the way they’re answering these questions is raising more eyebrows
But it is, I've been stationed in multiple bases around the world, some British, some US, some shared custodian, and the amount of shitty commercial drones hovering around is ridiculously high.
Just because you haven't heard it because up until now it wasn't a big deal and never made it to the media doesn't mean it didn't happen or "nothing we've seen before."
Black hawks being used to look for drones
What next, F-16's to take out a termite infestation?
I swear this news cycle has made people lose their goddamn minds.
What is happening