FBI says it has no answers for "Mystery drones flying over New Jersey"

And now the FAA has imposed a drone flight ban in multiple areas of New Jersey due to an "imminent security threat" and threatens to use deadly force if violated. Not sure what deadly force against drones means, but quite the escalation from "it's all perfectly normal and nothing is going on".

This stuff just gets stranger.
 
The initial ones had lighting otherwise they wouldn't be visible at all in the night sky. After this the possibility of copycat actors is quite strong this is why the FAA have issued a ban on drones in the area.

My bet is military penetration testing.
Yeah kinda what i was thinking, or war games in a ‘real’ setting.
 
The FAA has imposed temporary restrictions on drone operations in multiple New Jersey cities, effective December 18, 2024, to January 17, 2025, citing special security concerns. The restrictions prohibit drones within a nautical mile of designated areas, including Hamilton, Jersey City, and others. Violators risk interception, civil penalties, certificate revocation, and possible criminal charges, with the U.S. government

Drone ban suddenly in the area after a month let’s see how active the skies are tonight
 
FAA says that laser incidents reported by pilots over NJ have increased by almost 300% compared to the previous year. This is why this whole hysteria is so bloody unfunny, some of those panicking people are shooting lasers and even guns at aircraft thinking it's aliens or Iranian spy drones. They really need to calm the situation down, so it makes sense that they prohibit drone usage for a while.
 
One day apart. Make it make sense.

Such a Psy-op.

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One day apart. Make it make sense.

Such a Psy-op.

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Nothing contradictory or weird if you actually read the articles instead of having an aneurysm over the headlines. The Pentagon says in the Economic Times article that "we've not identified that any of these reported drone sightings were assessed as anomalous or that it presented a national security or public safety risk over civilian airspace in New Jersey or other states in the northeast" and that "In the case of drones flying near or over US military installations, that in and of itself just given the volume of drone flights we see on a given day, is not something that's new" but that they will "continue to take appropriate action if and when it's deemed that any of these drones near US military installations pose a threat".

The article by ABC news does not contradict that at all, stating that "In coordination with the FAA and our critical infrastructure partners who requested temporary flight restrictions over their facilities, out of an abundance of caution, the FAA has issued temporary flight restrictions over some critical infrastructure facilities in New Jersey" and that "We continue to assess there is no public safety threat relating to the reported drone sightings". Makes it pretty clear that they don't see an actual threat, but those security partners are crapping their pants, so "out of an abundance of caution" and "at their request", to soothe them they'll issue some airspace restrictions. You can practically hear the eyeroll in the wording.
They conclude that "Having closely examined the technical data and tips from concerned citizens, we assess that the sightings to date include a combination of lawful commercial drones, hobbyist drones, and law enforcement drones, as well as manned fixed-wing aircraft, helicopters, and stars mistakenly reported as drones".

The only question that remains for me is how that "deadly force" against drones would look like. I wanna see what anti-drone measures they'd actually take. They'll probably do the boring thing, identify the frequency the drones are transmitting on, directionally jam them, and wait for the (hopefully existent) autoland at transmission loss feature to set the drone down on the ground where they can scoop it up. Would be a lot more interesting, but also way more potentially dangerous, if they had some solution to actually grab them out of the air.
 
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Nothing contradictory or weird if you actually read the articles instead of having an aneurysm over the headlines. The Pentagon says in the Economic Times article that "we've not identified that any of these reported drone sightings were assessed as anomalous or that it presented a national security or public safety risk over civilian airspace in New Jersey or other states in the northeast" and that "In the case of drones flying near or over US military installations, that in and of itself just given the volume of drone flights we see on a given day, is not something that's new" but that they will "continue to take appropriate action if and when it's deemed that any of these drones near US military installations pose a threat".

The article by ABC news does not contradict that at all, stating that "In coordination with the FAA and our critical infrastructure partners who requested temporary flight restrictions over their facilities, out of an abundance of caution, the FAA has issued temporary flight restrictions over some critical infrastructure facilities in New Jersey" and that "We continue to assess there is no public safety threat relating to the reported drone sightings". Makes it pretty clear that they don't see an actual threat, but those security partners are crapping their pants, so "out of an abundance of caution" and "at their request", to soothe them they'll issue some airspace restrictions. You can practically hear the eyeroll in the wording.
They conclude that "Having closely examined the technical data and tips from concerned citizens, we assess that the sightings to date include a combination of lawful commercial drones, hobbyist drones, and law enforcement drones, as well as manned fixed-wing aircraft, helicopters, and stars mistakenly reported as drones".

The only question that remains for me is how that "deadly force" against drones would look like. I wanna see what anti-drone measures they'd actually take. They'll probably do the boring thing, identify the frequency the drones are transmitting on, directionally jam them, and wait for the (hopefully existent) autoland at transmission loss feature to set the drone down on the ground where they can scoop it up. Would be a lot more interesting, but also way more potentially dangerous, if they had some solution to actually grab them out of the air.

D.E Shorad
P-Hel
Epirus Leonidas
THOR

D.E Shorad is in active service now and was deployed to the Middle East:

https://www.janes.com/osint-insight...mpletes-de-m-shorad-deployment-to-middle-east

P-Hel has also been deployed:

https://www.military.com/daily-news...ser-weapons-overseas-combat-enemy-drones.html

Epirus Leonidas is currently undergoing testing by the USMC:

https://www.army-technology.com/projects/leonidas-high-power-microwave-hpm-system-usa/

THOR has finished preliminary testing but may be overkill for whats needed:

https://thedefensepost.com/2023/05/18/us-drone-swarm-thor/
 
FAA said:
"Having closely examined the technical data and tips from concerned citizens, we assess that the sightings to date include a combination of lawful commercial drones, hobbyist drones, and law enforcement drones, as well as manned fixed-wing aircraft, helicopters, and stars mistakenly reported as drones".

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D.E Shorad
P-Hel
Epirus Leonidas
THOR

D.E Shorad is in active service now and was deployed to the Middle East:

https://www.janes.com/osint-insight...mpletes-de-m-shorad-deployment-to-middle-east

P-Hel has also been deployed:

https://www.military.com/daily-news...ser-weapons-overseas-combat-enemy-drones.html

Epirus Leonidas is currently undergoing testing by the USMC:

https://www.army-technology.com/projects/leonidas-high-power-microwave-hpm-system-usa/

THOR has finished preliminary testing but may be overkill for whats needed:

https://thedefensepost.com/2023/05/18/us-drone-swarm-thor/
I know these systems, but they're not going to actually shoot down a drone over densely populated land (at least not their own). They might if there's nothing but wide-open field around, or if they truly think that there is a big actual threat that is better dealt with iin an immediate uncontrolled takedown rather than let it go wherever it was heading. But they're not going to fry some hobby drone and just let it crash wherever in the neighboorhood.
But you don't understand...

UAP=/=NHI = alien and the Von Neumann probes are hidden in plain sight.
Except for when they turn off the light and "go dark", being completely undetectable, of course.
 
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I know these systems, but they're not going to actually shoot down a drone over densely populated land (at least not their own). They might if there's nothing but wide-open field around, or if they truly think that there is a big actual threat that is better dealt with iin an immediate uncontrolled takedown rather than let it go wherever it was heading. But they're not going to fry some hobby drone and just let it crash wherever in the neighboorhood.

Except for when they turn off the light and "go dark", being completely undetectable, of course.
The screwed that one up attaching navigation light to them then.
 
It isn't feasible that the NSA/CIA do not know what these drones are because they control the airspace (well, not the regulatory bodies but agencies in whatever is in American airspace: funded by the scores of billions).

These stories are always farcical.

My guess? Lidar drones being used to monitor and map people's movements. And cars and whatever else. For the sake of futuristic policing. This has been coming down the pipeline for years.
 
So some emit no radio frequency. That’s not commercial or hobbyist drones
First of all, who made that claim?
Second, why would you think that is true? There's plenty of drones, both classic RC aircraft and the newer rotorcraft drones, which do not send data, only receive it. The only reason they have to transmit data out is if they deliver a data feed back to the operator, like a camera feed or a GPS locator or transponder. Far from every drone has that.
 
First of all, who made that claim?
Second, why would you think that is true? There's plenty of drones, both classic RC aircraft and the newer rotorcraft drones, which do not send data, only receive it. The only reason they have to transmit data out is if they deliver a data feed back to the operator, like a camera feed or a GPS locator or transponder. Far from every drone has that.
The NJ mayor in the interview above
 
The NJ mayor in the interview above
That interview was a waste of airtime, where the guy claims that they were not given any information when the information he was given (misidentifications and regular drone traffic that is not abnormal) just didn't fit his narrative, and that something actually has to be afoot just because a different meeting he was not a part of went on for longer than the one he was in. He makes it very clear that he had already decided the story he wants to believe, citing Chinese spy drones and an Iranian mothership off the coast. Mirroring some covid time folks and climate change deniers he takes the fact that there is a wide agreement (or as he calls it, toeing the party line) about the nature of the thing in question as proof that something is rotten in the state of Denmark, that something big is going on that THEY are keeping quiet on, and he rather believes the few outliers who claim something else, like said Iranian mothership. And his explanation about how a drone that does not send out RF cannot be jammed demonstrates that he has no clue about the topic.
 
It isn't feasible that the NSA/CIA do not know what these drones are because they control the airspace (well, not the regulatory bodies but agencies in whatever is in American airspace: funded by the scores of billions).

These stories are always farcical.

My guess? Lidar drones being used to monitor and map people's movements. And cars and whatever else. For the sake of futuristic policing. This has been coming down the pipeline for years.
This is some next level stuff if that's what it really is.
 
That interview was a waste of airtime, where the guy claims that they were not given any information when the information he was given (misidentifications and regular drone traffic that is not abnormal) just didn't fit his narrative, and that something actually has to be afoot just because a different meeting he was not a part of went on for longer than the one he was in. He makes it very clear that he had already decided the story he wants to believe, citing Chinese spy drones and an Iranian mothership off the coast. Mirroring some covid time folks and climate change deniers he takes the fact that there is a wide agreement (or as he calls it, toeing the party line) about the nature of the thing in question as proof that something is rotten in the state of Denmark, that something big is going on that THEY are keeping quiet on, and he rather believes the few outliers who claim something else, like said Iranian mothership. And his explanation about how a drone that does not send out RF cannot be jammed demonstrates that he has no clue about the topic.
He may have no knowledge of types of drones but I’m wary about dismissing the first hand experiences of people from New Jersey so quickly and dismissively
 
He may have no knowledge of types of drones but I’m wary about dismissing the first hand experiences of people from New Jersey so quickly and dismissively
If random dudes with no education relevant to the topic who had never consciously looked up into the sky before this craze claim one thing, and the majority of experts who have done exactly that professionally for many years say another thing, then you can bet I absolutely will dismiss the opinion of the former as irrelevant.
 
If random dudes with no education relevant to the topic who had never consciously looked up into the sky before this craze claim one thing, and the majority of experts who have done exactly that professionally for many years say another thing, then you can bet I absolutely will dismiss the opinion of the former as irrelevant.

Quite. Nobody objective looks at this and thinks "there were so many eye witnesses, maybe it really  was a miracle": https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_of_the_Sun
 
If random dudes with no education relevant to the topic who had never consciously looked up into the sky before this craze claim one thing, and the majority of experts who have done exactly that professionally for many years say another thing, then you can bet I absolutely will dismiss the opinion of the former as irrelevant.
I hope egg and your face don’t end up in alignment.
 
First of all, who made that claim?
Second, why would you think that is true? There's plenty of drones, both classic RC aircraft and the newer rotorcraft drones, which do not send data, only receive it. The only reason they have to transmit data out is if they deliver a data feed back to the operator, like a camera feed or a GPS locator or transponder. Far from every drone has that.
New Jersey state police did that claim and when they got near one their lights goes off, that’s the reason they say they are big as an SUV
 
It's funny, we're in a day and age where a guy on twitter living in a random suburb of Pakistan is able to give real time updates on Twitter when the most classified Osama Bin Laden Raid was happening as to what was going on, and where footage of Ukrainian special forces raids behind enemy lines of Russian ammo depots was caught in 4k by a random dude with an Iphone 12,

and yet in the past X years of UFO/Mysterious drones being claimed left right center, the best we get is 500 videos of 2003 flip-phone quality potato footage of a random light beam flying through the sky at a relatively quick speed.
 
If random dudes with no education relevant to the topic who had never consciously looked up into the sky before this craze claim one thing, and the majority of experts who have done exactly that professionally for many years say another thing, then you can bet I absolutely will dismiss the opinion of the former as irrelevant.
So those hundreds/thousands of people in NJ that look up to the skies and see something different from 6 months ago, it’s fair to say that something is happening,
So yes you go ahead and dismiss
 
So those hundreds/thousands of people in NJ that look up to the skies and see something different from 6 months ago, it’s fair to say that something is happening,
So yes you go ahead and dismiss

Hysteria momentum.

After war of the worlds was broadcast on Radio in 1938, thousands of people called police reporting sightings of aliens and people being abducted.
 
So those hundreds/thousands of people in NJ that look up to the skies and see something different from 6 months ago, it’s fair to say that something is happening,
So yes you go ahead and dismiss
Yes, I absolutely will, thank you.

How many of those hundreds or thousands do you think ever thought to consciously observe the traffic in the night sky before random people on Xitter and TikTok screeched about aliens, Iranian-Chinese spy drones and government mind control drones to them, what do you think? Because weirdly enough, those who frequently looked up before this, like aviation enthusiasts, astrophotographers, meteorologists, etc., do not seem to see any change in what's visible in the NJ sky. Neither do the experts who've actually wasted their time looking at this most recent hysteria in depth and took their time sighting the data and reports.

It's totally not like mass hysteria hasn't been a regularly occuring part of human behaviour since recorded history or anything... nah this time it's definitely THEM and their nefarious plans.
 
We had a mad spell here in the 80s when some kids saw a religious statue move. Soon the statues all over the place were moving and were 'witnessed' by many people.