Tbf to him, it was just a weird scenario we talked through, not really a serious suggestion from him.Wait, why the feck would Balu pick Garrincha with Jairzinho there? That's insane
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Not really, no. It's that if I don't pick Matthaus he would get a boner, crappy a headache and Annah is the winner whichever he overlooks. Neither of us is picking Garrincha and I doubt you will pick Lothar. Can't see him and Cruyff getting on at all the arrogant cnuts
No head ache for me. I am gonna stick with Silva-Dunga for some time. May be till the final. If I lose with them so be it.
Annah went to bed, btw., so if one of us picks Matthäus, we have to wait a few hours, he didn't leave me a back up pick.
Garrincha? No mate, he is a cracking player but I'm fine as it is.
You guys seriously underrate Ghiggia, which gives me added reason to stick to my guns even if I go down in flames as a result. Christ, it's not like there was only ever one good right winger in history. I've had him before, he is handy, but also presents challenges because he will do feck all pressing, tracking or following of instructions. It's the price you pay for his sheer brilliance.
I actually consider Matthäus, if you pick Baresi
I'm never in a million years picking Baresi. Wasn't clear on it with you just to wind you up
Good god, I'm loving the tension and expectation, may as well sit on it and lap it up as it will be a boring and painful 14 picks before I have a pop again.
fecking criminal that I don't need the big names, I could be sitting further up and have my next pick soon, that would settle it.
fecking criminal that I don't need the big names, I could be sitting further up and have my next pick soon, that would settle it.
Baresi over Scirea in a World Cup draft?
I know, was just playing alongI'm never in a million years picking Baresi. Wasn't clear on it with you just to wind you up
. I wouldn't pick Matthäus either. I'd much rather pick Eusebio play Cruyff as an AM then, which actually was the only other idea I played through, but it feels wrong to leave that '74 total football theme so early.Pretty easy for a team that plays a high line and pressing? It would be completely wrong to play Scirea in my team, imo.Baresi over Scirea in a World Cup draft?
True, didn't consider the tactics and playing style, just the names.
Don't play Baresi in a high line against Maradona, though. We all know how that ends.
On the other hand, the European quota is a nightmare so I could pick Falcao instead of Matthaus. That would be a great midfield as well and the theme would remain intact.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
That's a serious question actually, I can see all sorts of benefits from doing that.
I don't buy your underdog theme anyway, so whatever
.Who will control the game, Falcao or Bozsik?
Didn't happen in a worldcup, so stop bringing it up.True, didn't consider the tactics and playing style, just the names.
Don't play Baresi in a high line against Maradona, though. We all know how that ends.
I don't buy your underdog theme anyway, so whatever
Yeah, he's too shrewd to stick to that.
I remember we had the whole "Barca/ajax possession" theme in the all time draft, but once Maradona, Pele and Beckenbauer came our way, we didn't think twice.
I actually told him to think backups because Matthaus was the frontrunner a few days ago, by a distance. Now all available players and team needs are clear, I'm wondering. I could get closer to pulling the theme off without resorting to him to keep me around until then.
Wasn't too serious. I'm sure I can make some tactic pictures that explain why it actually will work in my team anyway . But I'm all for Crappy vs Pol in the next round, don't want to face either, would be a nightmare for my team.Baresi over Scirea in a World Cup draft?
Different players Aldo, quite different IMO. In a modern offside trap four I'd take Baresi, in a catenaccio five Scirea. Which is Balu's? No brainer really.
I told him, it makes no sense that you pick Matthäus and you won't do it, so you can blame me for him not leaving a backup pick
Yeah I didn't look at the setups.
I know, was just playing along
You are in a similar predicament to mine: damned if you do, damned if you don't.
So, Paulo Falcao then. Thoughts? Could make a three with Neeskens and Bozsik or completely replace Bozsik leaving his DLP role intact. I don't want to contemplate that but really have to when my main problem is having too many pre-72 Europeans.
Seriously though I wouldn't try a high line against Diego, I'm probably alone in thinking sitting deep is better to deal with him (by better I mean less damage) than staying up high, and it's because I rate his vision and passing higher than his direct running at players which wasn't anything short of top quality either.
I'd have my heart in my mouth knowing he has acres of space behind the defense to pick a pass, and with a couple of quality off the ball runners that could be suicide.
Even without the setups, I think it's harsh to say Scirea > Baresi
Find a better individual performance by a defender than that final in '94.
Find a better individual performance by a defender than that final in '94.
If he replaces him eventually it's a non-issue. If they play in a three Falcao is box-to-box and Bozsik dictates.
Yeah that one performance is great, but it is harsh on Scirea to rate one performance over a whole tournament.
I still think you need to do both, really. Have you read my post in your game thread with the video how Italy in '86 dealt with him? No one did a better job and it surely wasn't sitting deep, it was keeping him away from the penalty box by putting pressure on his teammates and force him to drop deep, while still having a defensive shape that can deal with runners. If Pol gets to pick Ronaldo or Eusebio we're all fecked anyway, imo.
Hmm I'm not sure if it's using Falcao in the best way. Reason I liked his games a lot was for his ability to control the game and the flow of movement. Bit of a clash over there if you ask me but otherwise obviously incredibly strong.
I didn't say that, I rate both on the same level in a worldcup draft, but there's simply no better defender for my team in the history of the game than Baresi, thanks to Sacchi having the great idea to combine crazy total football pressing with Italian defending and building the idea around Baresi.
Yeah, firstly IMO there is no definite tactic to stop Maradona from impacting the game, reason why he's so great is he's a complete attacking player. That pass for the winning goal in the final is exactly the fear I have with having a high line against him.
@Antohan
I like your midfield a lot and I think adding Falcao or Matthäus would hurt your team, at least imo. Replacing Bozsik with Falcao makes a lot of sense, though, individually and with the restrictions.
I like your midfield a lot and I think adding Falcao or Matthäus would hurt your team, at least imo. Replacing Bozsik with Falcao makes a lot of sense, though, individually and with the restrictions.
Stop being a fecking tease FFS.
I need to leave for home and will be off for an hour or more.
I need to leave for home and will be off for an hour or more.
I may inform you that I am a massive Scirea fan, so take it all with a pinch of salt.
And yeah Baresi fits your team well.
Another issue is I've been separated from him for far too long, haven't been able to reunite with Paulo since the 50s draft and he knows he hasn't seen a final since as well. He is gagging for it.
BTW, we need not worry about Annah's pick. Matthaus is completely out of the picture by now, all he has on Paulo is more voter kudos but tactically he is not in the same league, odd as that may sound. Matthaus as DLP? Yeah, right... He would have to exit the side sooner or later as I'm sticking to Neeskens for the requirements of an MM.
So Balu, crappy and Annah are all safe with their picks. Rpitroda should be thinking about his pick with Baresi, Garrincha, Matthaus and one of Figueroa or Falcao out of the picture.
@Balu not buying the Underdog theme: look at what I'm summarily dismissing! All first round picks, while I'm considering 2nd round picks.
BTW, we need not worry about Annah's pick. Matthaus is completely out of the picture by now, all he has on Paulo is more voter kudos but tactically he is not in the same league, odd as that may sound. Matthaus as DLP? Yeah, right... He would have to exit the side sooner or later as I'm sticking to Neeskens for the requirements of an MM.
So Balu, crappy and Annah are all safe with their picks. Rpitroda should be thinking about his pick with Baresi, Garrincha, Matthaus and one of Figueroa or Falcao out of the picture.
@Balu not buying the Underdog theme: look at what I'm summarily dismissing! All first round picks, while I'm considering 2nd round picks.
I'll personally pick Garrincha for you mate, I'm really not taking him, this is not Werewolf mate.
Baresi was magnificent in 1990 as well. In fact I'd say his 1994 final performance gets over-hyped in comparison, largely because of the great story surrounding it.
Ffs, we're telling Crappy for about 5 days now that he gets Garrincha and he still doesn't believe it
Why don't you simply go for a CB? That's clearly what you need IMO.
Because he has his eye on a certain centerback that most likely will be available as a 2nd pick anyway and he then can pick a wellworking pair at once.
Anto's in his element here. Reminds me of the time he lamented the horrible draw he had, only being able to strengthen his team with IIRC Beckenbauer, Maradona and Pele.