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Will be Chelsea me thinks.
 
It's been said in this thread before, but because of his third party ownership it's highly unlikely he'll be going to England. Chelsea would have to buy out his third party, whilst paying Atletico for the transfer too. It'd be a seriously massive fee.
 
Whoever the third party is they're probably more keen to sell than Atletico themselves. These companies invest just for the sake of profit, they don't go around asking massive unrealistic fees at the risk of getting stuck with a player at the peak of his value.

I also think they may be "forced" to sell after a certain threshold, it's probably on their contracts. Any other way and players/selling clubs would be ransoming themselves to these companies giving them the decision whether the player can or not go to England.
 
The third party will probably demand a higher fee than Atletico will. This third party have contributed massively to his wages.
 
The third party will sell to the best bidder, much as Atletico will. They have no use for Falcao, unlike a football club. They want their investment back with profits.
 
starman said:
These third party ownerships confuse me, Atletico paid £30m for Falcao, who were they paying?
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I don't think that Atletico either paid that sum, or payed the majority of Falcao's wages. Bebe posted an article some times ago clarifying that the most of investment in Falcao was made by that third party who payed both Porto and Falca's wages. So now, they want to sell him as much as they can, and neither Atletico nor Falcao has a say on it.
 
They have to hurry up selling (1-2 season onwards) as we'll most certainly see a UEFA ban soon in regards to third party ownership
 
So Falcao is off to Monaco, Cavani to City, Rooney to Chelsea and we will probably get some unknown Norweigan!!!
 
Sarni said:
Exactly. Which is why we won't even need to replace Rooney.
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Of course we have to replace Rooney should he leave.

If RVP gets injured I wouldn't feel too confident just with Hernandez and Welbeck even though they are both good players.
 
Cee90 said:
Of course we have to replace Rooney should he leave.

If RVP gets injured I wouldn't feel too confident just with Hernandez and Welbeck even though they are both good players.
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We'll play Kagawa behind and be fine.
 
Cee90 said:
Of course we have to replace Rooney should he leave.

If RVP gets injured I wouldn't feel too confident just with Hernandez and Welbeck even though they are both good players.
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Hernandez has come on leaps and bounds. I wouldn't be bothered about signing a replacement personally.
 
Carl said:
Hernandez has come on leaps and bounds. I wouldn't be bothered about signing a replacement personally.
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We shouldn't be playing with two strikers next season anyway, 442 is ancient. We have Kagawa to play behind one and three very good forwards who will get us goals. We'll be fine.
 
Sarni said:
We shouldn't be playing with two strikers next season anyway, 442 is ancient. We have Kagawa to play behind one and three very good forwards who will get us goals. We'll be fine.
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I don't think we'll buy another striker if Rooney goes but I could see us bringing in another versatile attacking player with some goals in his boots since we get practically nothing in that regard from any of our wingers bar the one who is likely to be sold.
 
Brightonian said:
It would be wonderful for Spanish football if Atletico could convince him to stay. It would be against the odds, yes, but you never know.
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They don't own him fully though and the investors will want some money. He's not staying.
 
Devil may care said:
I don't think we'll buy another striker if Rooney goes but I could see us bringing in another versatile attacking player with some goals in his boots since we get practically nothing in that regard from any of our wingers bar the one who is likely to be sold.
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That's what I'd be hoping for. There's no point playing two forwards anymore and with current 3 option we should be more than fine. Where we're going to be lacking at times is behind the striker - for the wings we're going to have Young, Valencia and Zaha (I expect Nani to move unfortunately) which isn't enough and for the attacking midfielder we'll have only Kagawa. I'd be delighted if we managed to bring one more winger and an attacking midfielder in the mould of Isco. I'm aware this is going to cost a lot and it probably won't happen though.
 
Why does FIFA refuse to stop the third party ownership lark?

I can't imagine this occurs in any other sport, perhaps baseball in the Latin America countries.
 
It's ironic that 3rd party ownership is far closer to the concept that "footballers are slaves" than anything Sepp has ever talked about.
 
He is a magnificent player the centre forward in Europe if city or Chelsea get him we will be in trouble.
He is another player we have no chance of getting we will get outdone financially
 
Walrus said:
It's ironic that 3rd party ownership is far closer to the concept that "footballers are slaves" than anything Sepp has ever talked about.
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Except that it isn't. I don't think that Falcao complained about this evil 3rd party ownership when they payed him million of euros in wages. If the reports are true he has a very big wage at Atletico and most of these money is being payed by that 3rd party. You do understand that slaves didn't got millions, right?
 
I don't see the problem myself.

It's largely South American clubs being mismanaged and having to sell/part-sell their rising stars to these third parties for very little money. It's the clubs that use them for financing which can stop stop that, the solution is not FIFA/UEFA stepping in.

The third party is also willing to invest in putting the player on the shop window, making it possible for them to spend more years in 2nd tier clubs (financially, not calling Porto and Atlético 2nd tier!).

I don't like it, but ~15 years ago it was a case of big clubs buying these South American players cheap as teenagers and dumping them in the reserves. Some very promising careers were destroyed. The 3rd parties have effectively reduced that and kept them playing and developing until the time is right for that big club.

It's the lesser evil, no doubt.
 
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