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Well if there are no other top targets available and you don't count the lower-quality targets, what do you expect us to do?


I would have liked us to get a top talent was my point really. Will those players I mentioned REALLY improve us that much? I know the game is not played on paper and they could come in and surprise us, but I think we pretty much know what we get from those two. I would have liked to see us sign a world class centre midfielder this season, I guess it wasn't to be...
 
As I've been saying since before the whole Thiago saga, I'd be quite happy with Fellaini and/or McCarthy
 
I would have liked us to get a top talent was my point really. Will those players I mentioned REALLY improve us that much? I know the game is not played on paper and they could come in and surprise us, but I think we pretty much know what we get from those two. I would have liked to see us sign a world class centre midfielder this season, I guess it wasn't to be...

I agree, but you were complaining that they should have had top quality back-up options at the same time as admitting that there are no top-quality back-up options.
 
As I've been saying since before the whole Thiago saga, I'd be quite happy with Fellaini and/or McCarthy
I'd be happy with McCarthy and his cheaper South American equivalent.
 

I think Revan was joining me in talking crazy talk.

There is ZERO chance -- as in "impossible" and not merely "implausible" -- that we would land Ronaldo, Fabregas AND Schweinstegier. Or at least it's as likely as Pope Francis joining Al Qaeda.
 
Vidic was a player who was wanted by teams, also he improved once he got here. I agree their may be low profile talent out there. But on Fabreags' level? I doubt it. As well as being a good player he is a signal of Moyes' and the new regimes' intent. If you are talented the way scouting is these days there is no way you are unknown, someone has seen you.

My point is don't assume there are always Plan b's, I hope we have one though. Someone said we want our first signing to be high profile in that case their are not many options left...

There's always a Plan B or C etc.

United are a multi-million pound organisation with some of the best business and footballing people working for them. They go through this every six months. They probably know what they're doing.
 
There's only 2 possible scenarios really, (maybe there's more that I haven't thought of). But he either wants to move to us and we know it, or he's using us to strengthen his own position at Barca to get more playing time which really is a very risky strategy.

Let's think of his motives behind, if his position is strengthen at Barca I doubt he will ever look for a move. But there's no guarantee in Barca so I do think he wish to keep his option open. But he will not go that far to request for a transfer that would upset his fans and reputation (after moving away from Arsenal not too long ago). So in short, this would not happen.
 
There's always a Plan B or C etc.

United are a multi-million pound organisation with some of the best business and footballing people working for them. They go through this every six months. They probably know what they're doing.


Losing the best manager ever?? We will see if they have a Plan B or C, it's got nothing to do with how rich the club actually is. This is about improving the team on the pitch not many players can do that.
 
I agree, but you were complaining that they should have had top quality back-up options at the same time as admitting that there are no top-quality back-up options.

Perhaps I didn't get my point across correctly, I only want us to ONLY spend money on a top quality midfielder. There is realistic back as far as I/we know. But I HOPE there is something going on in the public eye.
 
I think Revan was joining me in talking crazy talk.

There is ZERO chance -- as in "impossible" and not merely "implausible" -- that we would land Ronaldo, Fabregas AND Schweinstegier. Or at least it's as likely as Pope Francis joining Al Qaeda.
Does that mean it's plausible or not?
 
Let's think of his motives behind, if his position is strengthen at Barca I doubt he will ever look for a move. But there's no guarantee in Barca so I do think he wish to keep his option open. But he will not go that far to request for a transfer that would upset his fans and reputation (after moving away from Arsenal not too long ago). So in short, this would not happen.
Christ, do you just recycle the one post?
 
Losing the best manager ever?? We will see if they have a Plan B or C, it's got nothing to do with how rich the club actually is. This is about improving the team on the pitch not many players can do that.

This has become a circular argument. United will always get players, both exceptional and not so exceptional. How rich United are has a profound impact on who we buy which gives us a better opportunity to improve our team than financially poor clubs.
 
feck, we should just swap them Rooney for Fabregas :drool:, though I suppose Barca aren't exactly short (excuse the pun :lol:) of options up front. Rooney woud add an ideal "plan b" for them though.
 


Perhaps Woodward can move on to a target we have some chance of getting and hope they don't mind being second choice...
 
Thank God for that. This saga will officially be over on Thursday, one way or the other.
If he is coming out to to talk at a barc conference it is officially over. It's not like he would come out and announce he wants to leave.
 
If he is coming out to to talk at a barc conference it is officially over. It's not like he would come out and announce he wants to leave.


Exactly my thoughts. I doubt he'll come out and say "Well, I am considering my place at Barca".

I think this is the end my friends.
 
Perhaps Woodward can move on to a target we have some chance of getting and hope they don't mind being second choice...


feck me. Do you really think that a professional footballer given the opportunity to play for United is going to be all concerned that they were second choice (if that's even the case) to one of the top few CM's in the world.

Some people have lost touch with reality this summer.
 
Thursday is the 8th though. That Cotton guy promised us something big.
 
He'll say "me and my agent weren't giving United loads of encouragement behind the scenes...honest"
 
Us making bids tests their resolve and how much Fabregas really wants to stay. I have no problem with it as long as we have a contingency plan, which I expect we do.

Players we want aren't always available. No need for contingency plans. It's a simple case of going for what we need or make do with what we have. No point filling the squad for the sake of buying.
 
Players we want aren't always available. No need for contingency plans. It's a simple case of going for what we need or make do with what we have. No point filling the squad for the sake of buying.
we've always been willing to push the boat out in terms transfer fees when desperately trying to sign a particular player. Rio, Rooney, Berbatov and Veron spring to mind. I wonder if we're able to go that extra mile in the current climate.
 
Players we want aren't always available. No need for contingency plans. It's a simple case of going for what we need or make do with what we have. No point filling the squad for the sake of buying.


This is correct. I think there are some people that can't comprehend the thought of us not signing anyone this summer. I'm not saying that we won't, but if the right player isn't available then I'm certain that United will have no qualms about sticking with what they have. Where midfield is concerned, this has been happening for the last few years.
 
This is correct. I think there are some people that can't comprehend the thought of us not signing anyone this summer. I'm not saying that we won't, but if the right player isn't available then I'm certain that United will have no qualms about sticking with what they have. Where midfield is concerned, this has been happening for the last few years.
it's odd we've not been able to plug that gap in midfield in the last few years, though. Surely it's not just a case of a lack of availability.
 
Well that's the final nail in the coffin, as if we needed further confirmation.
 
it's odd we've not been able to plug that gap in midfield in the last few years, though. Surely it's not just a case of a lack of availability.


Most of us would have signed up the likes of Dembele or Cabaye, but this summer has proven that we seem only interested in the very highest caliber of midfielder. In fairness, Fergie did continuously state that we were looking for the right midfielder. Some of us just chose not to believe it at the time.
 
That Miguel Delaney bloke still thinks it's not over. Said that Cesc was supposed have a conference last wekk, and yet nothing happened...
 
feck me. Do you really think that a professional footballer given the opportunity to play for United is going to be all concerned that they were second choice (if that's even the case) to one of the top few CM's in the world.

Some people have lost touch with reality this summer.


Modric, who's pretty comfortable at Madrid even if he's not playing as much as he wants, can't like knowing for sure he's a backup if United go for him. It's certainly not a plus for a player at another club of similar stature. Coming from a smaller club, it won't matter at all but it's not a great incentive for a player who's in a decent enough position to leave.
 
Can we take a sneaky bid at Ander Herrera, please?


He's a realistic target so we are not interested in him. If he wants to sign with us then he should first move to Barcelona, Real or Bayern Munich
 
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