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I've been slightly thinking this, I always thought he was at his absolute best slightly higher up the pitch but think in most games he'd be class in the deeper role as well. Tbf in tougher games, he could easily swap in for Rooney, with kagawa playing tucked in on the left.
No I think he's at his best as an offense minded central midfielder. He's great at dictating a game and he has great attacking abilities so ideally we'd play him in central midfield (he fits into a two or three) and let him drive forward whenever the opportunity presents itself. But yes, he is too good going forward to just sit on the half way line like an alonso would (not that I'm saying he's necessarily better). You'd be best off partnering him with someone who can keep it simple and shield the defence. Him and Carrick would probably make a brilliant parternship. He'd also be very good as the most offensive minded of a midfield there.
 
Stop wasting time & effort on Fibreglass, who in my opinion is nowhere as good as he used to be. He's too distracted with his almost 40 yr old MILF & new daughter to want to leave Spain.
 
He did in his feck. We wouldn't have the Basque bastard.

'Twas some football above in Meath he played. He came on a student-swap to Kells one summer. Rode all around him and fecked off home again.

Totally off topic, but I've always wanted to see the Book of Kells. Is it still on display at Trinity in Dublin?
 
I also think he'll join us if they accept a bid but from the way Barca's camp have flat out denied any chance of this happening after we bid £30 million makes me think the chances of them suddenly changing their mind with a £5 million increase is extremely slim. £40 million as well only gives them a £2.5 million profit due to the 50% clause. I think they are looking for £50+ million personally.

They won't get that much, not from us anyway. In my view, Utd must be getting some encouragement from somewhere. They would not be pursuing this if they felt there was not a realistic chance of getting him. Forget what clubs say publicly, it means feck all really. when does any fecker ever tell the truth to the press?

They say the right things until something is agreed. If they came out and said Cesc is for sale, you would end up with a Suarez like scenario where Barca have to state what figure will be acceptable. Rooney is no different, he is only not for sale because it is a lowish bid from a domestic rival. Should PSG come in and offer £40m, i have little doubt we would take it.

Nobody refuses £40m for players publicly acknowledged as back up. Cesc and Rooney are back up at their respective clubs because they are simply not deemed as vital to the team as those keeping them out. I cannot recall any club refusing such enormous bids for back up players, so to see that happen now would be far more radical and unprecedented than actually selling the players.
 
I also think he'll join us if they accept a bid but from the way Barca's camp have flat out denied any chance of this happening after we bid £30 million makes me think the chances of them suddenly changing their mind with a £5 million increase is extremely slim. £40 million as well only gives them a £2.5 million profit due to the 50% clause. I think they are looking for £50+ million personally.

Did he cost Barcelona GBP35mn? And secondly, why is everyone looking at 2.5mn? Barca will get 37.5mn even if your 2.5mn is accurate.
 
Did he cost Barcelona GBP35mn? And secondly, why is everyone looking at 2.5mn? Barca will get 37.5mn even if your 2.5mn is accurate.


We seem to be bidding in £5 million increments and there would be barely any difference between us bidding £35 or £40 mil because Barca would only receive 2.5 million more if we bid 40. So if this next bid gets rejected do you honestly think we will go £45 million+ considering we started at 25?
 
Totally off topic, but I've always wanted to see the Book of Kells. Is it still on display at Trinity in Dublin?


Yep, they have some weird thing going on there at the moment too.
 
No I think he's at his best as an offense minded central midfielder. He's great at dictating a game and he has great attacking abilities so ideally we'd play him in central midfield (he fits into a two or three) and let him drive forward whenever the opportunity presents itself. But yes, he is too good going forward to just sit on the half way line like an alonso would (not that I'm saying he's necessarily better). You'd be best off partnering him with someone who can keep it simple and shield the defence. Him and Carrick would probably make a brilliant parternship. He'd also be very good as the most offensive minded of a midfield there.


Well I think he can do both no doubt. I just think against the best teams we might get more out of him in a 3 with someone else playing deeper with Carrick. In your standard game I think he'd be great next to Carrick, just in the toughest games we might still need someone else in there as well, he'd definitely be an improvement on what we have now, but ideally I'd say him as part of a 3 with kagawa and a winger either side of RVP would be great, assuming Rooney is leaving.
 
Shirley Temple Bar's maintaining the bid's in the region of £40m.

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He did in his feck. We wouldn't have the Basque bastard.

'Twas some football above in Meath he played. He came on a student-swap to Kells one summer. Rode all around him and fecked off home again.


:drool:

Lots of little Xavi's in a few years time hopefully growing up.
 
Barca paid 29m Euros, with a further 5m in add-ons for him.


I think they will be looking to make some profit at least if they are going to be partial to selling.


If we bid closer to 40m GBP I think we'd get our man
 
I also think he'll join us if they accept a bid but from the way Barca's camp have flat out denied any chance of this happening after we bid £30 million makes me think the chances of them suddenly changing their mind with a £5 million increase is extremely slim. £40 million as well only gives them a £2.5 million profit due to the 50% clause. I think they are looking for £50+ million personally.
There is no way that clause exists. 50% of any fee on a signing for that kind of price? No chance. 50% sell on fees are for players bought at lower prices. It'll be 50% of any fee over what they paid for him.
 
They won't get that much, not from us anyway. In my view, Utd must be getting some encouragement from somewhere. They would not be pursuing this if they felt there was not a realistic chance of getting him. Forget what clubs say publicly, it means feck all really. when does any fecker ever tell the truth to the press?

They say the right things until something is agreed. If they came out and said Cesc is for sale, you would end up with a Suarez like scenario where Barca have to state what figure will be acceptable. Rooney is no different, he is only not for sale because it is a lowish bid from a domestic rival. Should PSG come in and offer £40m, i have little doubt we would take it.

We must be being encouraged by an agent.. lets hope we arent wasting our time.. You are right though, its not in Barca's interests to state he is for sale.
 
There is no way that clause exists. 50% of any fee on a signing for that kind of price? No chance. 50% sell on fees are for players bought at lower prices. It'll be 50% of any fee over what they paid for him.
Yeah, 50% of the profit, so above £35m every million is half a million to Barca.
 
Stop wasting time & effort on Fibreglass, who in my opinion is nowhere as good as he used to be. He's too distracted with his almost 40 yr old MILF & new daughter to want to leave Spain.

What’s up with these idiots marrying women twice their age? Pique and now Cesc? Did they miss their mamas at the Masia?
 
I'd love to know what "preparing a bid" actually entails, and why it takes us so long to actually do it.
 
I'd love to know what "preparing a bid" actually entails, and why it takes us so long to actually do it.


I'd imagine it's more than just writing a number on a piece of paper and faxing it over. You would assume there's heavy paperwork involved to cover both parties arses when making an official bid, but you would also imagine that a lot of the paperwork would be standard and would only involve filling in a few blanks. Perhaps the biggest delay is getting the nod from those who control the cash?
 
Barca paid 29m Euros, with a further 5m in add-ons for him.


I think they will be looking to make some profit at least if they are going to be partial to selling.


If we bid closer to 40m GBP I think we'd get our man

£35m is 40m Euros. Perhaps this is the next instalment.
 
I'd imagine it's more than just writing a number on a piece of paper and faxing it over. You would assume there's heavy paperwork involved to cover both parties arses when making an official bid, but you would also imagine that a lot of the paperwork would be standard and would only involve filling in a few blanks. Perhaps the biggest delay is getting the nod from those who control the cash?

Or waiting for the nod from Fabregas' camp.
 
As said, whilst I suspect 'preparing a bid' is more a case of semantics regarding the whole consideration and act of making a formal offer, there is undoubtedly an absolute tonne of paperwork and 'sign off' that will need to be done.

People talk like upping an offer by £5 million is just a quick extra phone call. £5 million in ANY company is a lot of money and the organisation needs to be 100% happy with the decision to commit those funds before agreeing to it.
 
Bollocks. All we need to do is just ring Barca up and say the words 'forty million, bitch'.
 
Bollocks. All we need to do is just ring Barca up and say the words 'forty million, bitch'.

Lol.

Us: "forty million, bitch"
Barca: "euros or pounds?"
Us: "uh... I'll get back to you..."

Us: "forty million pounds, bitch"
Barca: "all in cash or plus add-ons?"
Us: "um.... hang on"

Us: "forty million pounds cash, bitch"
Barca: "great! one payment or instalments?"
Us: "I'll call you back"

You see where this is going.
 
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