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Fabregas
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If we don't land Fabregad it's a;most certainly going to be a very underwhelming summer for Man United.
Wish I could say the same about some of our CL rivals who, as usual, have snapped up some top, top draw talents.
Wish I could say the same about some of our CL rivals who, as usual, have snapped up some top, top draw talents.
Wonder if we'll put in a bid today? According to the Marca report which surfaced earlier in the week, today will be the day we'll lodge a 40m euros offer...
I suppose it is in that paper's interest to shit stir when it comes to Barca matters, mind.
I suppose it is in that paper's interest to shit stir when it comes to Barca matters, mind.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...usive-manchester-united-submit-record-5384621
Written by Andy Mitten.
Andy Mitten is officially associated in some way with United, yes? Just put in a 40m offer and be done with it. He's not worth anything more than that if they still reject that amount of money
I agree that there's no reason for making things so public but if we get our guy in the end it won't matters. Basically what is relevant is that at the end of the window we've done good business.
I really think we are wasting our time going for Cesc. I did believe that perhaps we'd heard something from his camp, and Cesc's silence on it all seems quite strange, but I don't think Barca will sell at any price, and I think deep down, Cesc prefers where he is over United.
£25 and £30million was never going to be enough, so they were timewasting bids anyway. Just bid £35million from the off. If they both say no, then fine. Move on to the next target, with plenty of time to spare.
There's probably alot more to a bid than that, but I still think we should have been a bit more hasty.
£25 and £30million was never going to be enough, so they were timewasting bids anyway. Just bid £35million from the off. If they both say no, then fine. Move on to the next target, with plenty of time to spare.
There's probably alot more to a bid than that, but I still think we should have been a bit more hasty.
It's strange that a club record bid for us is hardly going to turn heads in comparison to other big spenders. Just shows how well we've done to keep ourselves grounded as the market gets sillier and sillier.
I agree with that. Everything this summer seems so unnecessarily dragged out. If it takes £40m we should just bid it and get on with it.
Agreed. And FFP is a fecking joke. It gets worse every year.
It's all nice that we are trying to stay sensible and all but with the fees flying around right now it's highly debatable we will get players like Fabregas for 30-35 million pounds.
I really wonder when this all will stop.
BBC picking up on the story from MEN. Saying we will make a club record bid.
So are we going to make this public as well?
Would be funny if our third bid got rejected and then we made a fourth one #laughingstock
We don't know how much of a joke FFP is at this point in time. Certain clubs obviously believe that they can get around it with their somewhat dubious sponsorships (expect Monaco to announce some stupid ones shortly). Until the first three year monitoring period is up we won't know how UEFA are going to treat these.
It was certainly the hope from the major clubs and UEFA that FFP would significantly slow wage and transfer inflation. This hasn't happened yet. If anything it appears to be getting worse, simply because of the "plastic" owners. Therefore I do wonder if there will be some reaction by UEFA and that they will be harsher on the related party transactions than most expect.
Either Barca have named their price and we're prepared to match it, or we're making another stab in the dark bid. I really hope that it's the first one.
That is fecking great and should be the cafs new smiley.Eh? Why the hell would it be funny and why would we be laughing stock? It seems to be that some people on here are actually taking delight in the possibility of a failure
I can't see us being that stupid by making a third without knowing if Barca (and player) have given us any encouragement and/or we have a good idea of what price they would agree to sell at.
Next couple of days will be crucial.
If we are going back in for a third bid of around 40m, then IMO it will certainly test whether barca will sell or not. I think the question of whether Fabregas will come or not is answered in our constant pursuit of him! Now way would we be going in for a third time if we hadn't had the go ahead from Cecs' camp.
Yeah that's what I'm thinking too, but I said that about the 2nd bid too. Fingers crossed anyway.
I actually think that it is Cesc that has said he will join us, but only if we can get barca to sell.
Erm, there is no evidence that we made any of this public! Some of you have some serious learning difficulties.
"Sky sources" released the very accurate bid information first and everybody else copied, on both occasions. They also released the fact that Ed was flying back. Now, it doesn't take too great a detective mind to work out that somebody very close to this transfer leaked this to the media. For us to leak this information to the media does not make any sense, particularly the bit about Ed.
Sadly, the anger in this thread is probably frustration after the excitement about super-Ed and his famous flight back. The most likely source of the leaks is dirty Dein as he attempts to put pressure on Barcelona, to secure his clients move to Old Trafford. I have no doubt the player wants to come, his silence speaks volumes, it is just whether the right atmosphere has been successfully created for it to happen and possibly whether Barcelona have their replacement lined up.
Moyes is generally a reserved guy, but it has obviously been decided that it was easier or at least helpful to confirm the bids. This is his and the club's total culpability. We haven't done a Madrid unsettling campaign, nor a Mourinho mind game exercise with the Rooney transfer. We have simply done what Arsenal have just done with Suarez, bid, confirmed the bid and had the bid rejected. I bet the Arsenal supporters are not ripping into their club for "going public".
What we have in here is a few arseholes that have convinced many more that it is "embarrassing" to confirm a bid, when if we were honest, we all want to know that our club is busy trying to fill a gap in the team. It seems they are damned if they do and damned if they don't.
So, I say this to those who have harangued our manager and our Chief Exec, shut the feck up, grow up, get real and wait and see what the season brings.
"Sky sources" released the very accurate bid information first and everybody else copied, on both occasions. They also released the fact that Ed was flying back. Now, it doesn't take too great a detective mind to work out that somebody very close to this transfer leaked this to the media. For us to leak this information to the media does not make any sense, particularly the bit about Ed.
Sadly, the anger in this thread is probably frustration after the excitement about super-Ed and his famous flight back. The most likely source of the leaks is dirty Dein as he attempts to put pressure on Barcelona, to secure his clients move to Old Trafford. I have no doubt the player wants to come, his silence speaks volumes, it is just whether the right atmosphere has been successfully created for it to happen and possibly whether Barcelona have their replacement lined up.
Moyes is generally a reserved guy, but it has obviously been decided that it was easier or at least helpful to confirm the bids. This is his and the club's total culpability. We haven't done a Madrid unsettling campaign, nor a Mourinho mind game exercise with the Rooney transfer. We have simply done what Arsenal have just done with Suarez, bid, confirmed the bid and had the bid rejected. I bet the Arsenal supporters are not ripping into their club for "going public".
What we have in here is a few arseholes that have convinced many more that it is "embarrassing" to confirm a bid, when if we were honest, we all want to know that our club is busy trying to fill a gap in the team. It seems they are damned if they do and damned if they don't.
So, I say this to those who have harangued our manager and our Chief Exec, shut the feck up, grow up, get real and wait and see what the season brings.
What the feck is this big load of mumbo jumbo?
Woke up on the wrong side of the bed mate?
I was fine until I actually read back a few pages this morning. I checked in last night but never read back.
I could not believe that this was a supporters forum, it felt more like the minutes from Prime Minister's question time.
No it shouldn't. It's already been over-used.
which is why it should.
Actually, when the first bid was made public, the amount of money claimed by Sky was higher than the other journalists. No, it was not a case of journalists just copying stuff. If they didn't have someone feeding them stuff, they wouldn't have written what they have (I'm talking about the respectable one's, anyway), they would have said that Sky is claiming whatever rather than take the responsibility.
Eh? We never confirmed how much we bid, so numbers are irrelevant. Sky were bang on with the offers and what days they were made. They ran the story whilst others waited for Moyes' confirmation.
The difference in reported bids was marginal and probably their interpretation of the exchange rate etc as the offer was likely to have been made in Euros and journos often just round it up or down.
I am not really sure what point your making?
My point is, we did make it public. The string of reporters - starting with Sky, but continuing with every journalist covering United in England - twitting and then reporting on their websites/papers that we have made a bid for Fabregas - not claimed to, not reported to have, but made a bid - is a clear sign someone made sure it would go public. Somehow, I have a feeling it was us.
Of course we made it public.
We've never had any problem keeping transfers private when we wanted to before, why would Fabregas be so different?
We've never had any problem keeping transfers private when we wanted to before, why would Fabregas be so different?
Almost all our big name and big money transfers/bids have been public. It's the low and mid ranged money transfers that have been quieter.
I think our stealth on the transfer market is overstated.
Woodward has Tourette's and despite his best efforts has been ticking out the news on public transport.
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