I don't know about Baines. But we're not talking about a leak here. The club clearly informed all reporters. 24 hours after Thiago finally joined Bayern, I sense a PR exercise. And I'm sad to say it.
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Just can't see this happening after it has been leaked to every journo in Britain. 
I'm going to skip this one, still hurting from Thiago.
Maybe something has changed between his cocksure statement last month and now. Maybe barca told him he wasn't that good for them, or he's too direct for them to play him in midfield, etc and now he is forced to change his mind.
Just playing the devil's advocate here.
Sky don't even have it on a yellow ticker.... cocks back in, but still semi.
Of course he is, theres no competition at the moment. Especially given the fact Fabregas is proven in the deeper CM role in PL.
If that happens..
Either way, good news on the fact that we are actively trying to sign genuine world class talents in midfield with Moyes. Maybe we'll try Modric and Khedira next, surely we'll sign one of them by the start of the season!
it's a smokescreen isn't it.....Ronnie's coming home...
Balague saying that Moyes asked for attentions to be switched from Thiago to Fabregas
http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2013/07/15/primera/1373888966_104337.html
They did earlier on.
Losing out on Thiago was not worrying. But a PR exercise like this, if that is what it is, would be of great concern as it means that maybe United don't have some good ideas left up their sleeve as I had hoped.
Do they have a need for him with Carzorla & Wilshire already? Maybe they've turned down the opportunity already?
Don't think United are in the business of making offers for players they know they definitely cannot get.
If it was a runner, it was more of a runner prior to Thiago leaving. Why would we have waited if the bid was in any way serious?
The Spanish press see the source of the story as The Independent
The Independent don't give a source
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...thiago-and-grow-keen-on-fabregas-8708423.html
The Spanish press see the source of the story as The Independent
The Independent don't give a source
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...thiago-and-grow-keen-on-fabregas-8708423.html
No chance.
Don't really get this at all. Arsenal have first refusal too.
Although, let's see if agent Robin > Agent Dave?
Although, let's see if agent Robin > Agent Dave?
This thread is certainly moving fast
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Modern transfers are like school discos. You find out if the girl you like is interested first by asking her mate.Not happening! First Barcelona will have to tell him that they don't need him, and even then there is no guarantee that he would want to leave. 50% of any fee goes to Arsenal I believe, and they have a first refusal too, so an equivalent bid from Arsenal is also automatically accepted. Thirdly Fabregas isn't the best mates with Moyes.
In fairness it would have been fair to say Fabregas is currently a better player than Thiago even if we had signed Thiago. Thiago is very good player now with the potential to be incredible, Fabregas is excellent (and is proven in the England as well).
If by "sign one of them" you mean "bid (or reported to have bid) on all of them" ...Of course he is, theres no competition at the moment. Especially given the fact Fabregas is proven in the deeper CM role in PL.
If that happens..
Either way, good news on the fact that we are actively trying to sign genuine world class talents in midfield with Moyes. Maybe we'll try Modric and Khedira next, surely we'll sign one of them by the start of the season!
Do you seriously think Arsenal would turn down their former captain and best player (in a much better team then the current one) for 25 million? No chance whatsoever.
Barcelona are sinking to obscurity, rats jumping off the ship.
I think that Arsenal have first refusal in that the club must ask them if they want to match the highest bid but I doubt they can make the player go to Arsenal if he prefers to go elsewhere no matter what the fee.
If true it's a pretty sad and embarrassing thing to do by a club of our stature.
The desperation of it all is obvious.
Didn't think so either, but we have a new manager now so things will be different then under Sir Alex and there will probably be a few things we'll see differently to how we've done stuff under Sir Alex.
It's really just not like us though, it would be such a weak move. We have absolutely brilliant PR guys are united...can't see them sanctioning this...
This transfer is cooking with FabreGAS.
If this comes off, then Dennis Irwin is the ultimate ITK.
Ah well, I may as well jump in the muppet deep end here with a theory.
United sell Rooney to Arsenal on the agreement that Arsenal drop their claim to Fabregas.
United sell Rooney to Arsenal on the agreement that Arsenal drop their claim to Fabregas.
We would never make a formal bid without talking to fabregas or his agent first.
It's amusing to see people so sceptical of us being in for a good midfielder. Journos just pick up their stories from other journalists a lot of the time anyway. Just like every journalist picked it up the Fergie retirement story from Ogden.
I remember Fergie was talking about the Lucas and RvP transfers "to sell season tickets".
I remember Fergie was talking about the Lucas and RvP transfers "to sell season tickets".
As suspected, there was no back up plan for Thiago, this is such a desperate offer. Fellaini for £20 million on deadline day is becoming more and more of a possibility.
Bit of a discrepancy. At least it might not mean it's all been lifted from one source/rumour.
excellent muppetry.....
If United want Fabregas they will have to pay a lot more than 30 million euros. That said the player actually has to want to leave Barcelona, which he doesn't as he has stated publically. Then you factor in that they have just sold Thiago, Xavi is 33 and you kind of get the picture.
But yes lets all congratulate the club for bidding for a player, it's really fantastic news.
The last sentence you are wrong.....I said the club should be focusing their attentions on realistic targets.
It's obvious what's happening:
Barcelona want to keep Thiago and are getting desperate now that Bayern have triggered his release clause. As soon as this happened they have gotten worried and told Thiago that he will indeed play far more often if he stays. This has of course made Fabregas available.
But too late as he's signed for Bayern.
Barcelona want to keep Thiago and are getting desperate now that Bayern have triggered his release clause. As soon as this happened they have gotten worried and told Thiago that he will indeed play far more often if he stays. This has of course made Fabregas available.
But too late as he's signed for Bayern.
Thats a pretty big leap and doesn't tally with how we usually operate.
According to Sky the reports are coming from sources in Spain.
I see what's going on.....Moyes waits for Cesc to be sold to Barca, then cunningly sells Arsenal Arteta knowing that Cesc's position is now taken and then he takes over at United and poaches Cesc.....IT ALL MAKES SO MUCH SENSE@@@22111
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