Scary to think what CR what have gone for had we had him now at the age of 24 to sell... can only presume it would be north of £100 million... that's crazy stuff
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Scary to think what CR what have gone for had we had him now at the age of 24 to sell... can only presume it would be north of £100 million... that's crazy stuff
Not that I have a Ph.D in sports management, but it seems to me a price paid for a player -- plus his wages, of course -- represents the minimum return on investment you expect to receive from that investment. Or something like that.
Cesc Fabregas just turned 26 last May. It's reasonable to believe he's got 5 and perhaps as many 8 seasons of (pick your adjective) football left in him. Let's say just 5 for purposes of easy math calculations.
At the rate at which revenues are growing for the top European football clubs such as United 60m plus, let's say, 8m a season in wages for a total of 100m over 5 years for the Spanish midfielder. That's a lot of quid, no question about it., but we live in a world in which massive amounts of quid gets spent watching football and purchasing football-related merchandise.
Could an investment of 100m over 5 years in Fabregas be worth it? Maybe, depending on how much further you think we go in the English prem and CL with him v without him and perhaps whatever merchanidising value he might represent. If he's all that, and I think he's proven he is, we're talking about a midfielder who takes us to another level to being the RUNAWAY favorite in the league and makes us good enough to nick up Bayern and Barcelona. (Right now, Bayern would slaughter us and we'd only have a puncher's chance at taking down Barcelona.) Also, how much better Fabregas is compared to other reasonably attainable midfielders? Maybe there's a young Fabregas out there ready to turn it on this season and could be gettable for a measly 15m, but I have no idea if that's the case and I've heard no one offer such a name.
I guess what I'm saying is that once you get past the shock value of the number itself because we're used to paying a mere 30m for our top transfer targets (Rio, Rooney and Berbatov), 60m might not be all that crazy in today's world. When I last watched him week in, week out in the English prem he was absolutely sensational. Better than Cleverley and Ando by a considerable distance. I like Cleverley a lot and part of me wants to see him get his chance, but Tom is no Cesc.
Cesc Fabregas just turned 26 last May. It's reasonable to believe he's got 5 and perhaps as many 8 seasons of (pick your adjective) football left in him. Let's say just 5 for purposes of easy math calculations.
At the rate at which revenues are growing for the top European football clubs such as United 60m plus, let's say, 8m a season in wages for a total of 100m over 5 years for the Spanish midfielder. That's a lot of quid, no question about it., but we live in a world in which massive amounts of quid gets spent watching football and purchasing football-related merchandise.
Could an investment of 100m over 5 years in Fabregas be worth it? Maybe, depending on how much further you think we go in the English prem and CL with him v without him and perhaps whatever merchanidising value he might represent. If he's all that, and I think he's proven he is, we're talking about a midfielder who takes us to another level to being the RUNAWAY favorite in the league and makes us good enough to nick up Bayern and Barcelona. (Right now, Bayern would slaughter us and we'd only have a puncher's chance at taking down Barcelona.) Also, how much better Fabregas is compared to other reasonably attainable midfielders? Maybe there's a young Fabregas out there ready to turn it on this season and could be gettable for a measly 15m, but I have no idea if that's the case and I've heard no one offer such a name.
I guess what I'm saying is that once you get past the shock value of the number itself because we're used to paying a mere 30m for our top transfer targets (Rio, Rooney and Berbatov), 60m might not be all that crazy in today's world. When I last watched him week in, week out in the English prem he was absolutely sensational. Better than Cleverley and Ando by a considerable distance. I like Cleverley a lot and part of me wants to see him get his chance, but Tom is no Cesc.
Scary to think what CR what have gone for had we had him now at the age of 24 to sell... can only presume it would be north of £100 million... that's crazy stuff
I wonder how long it'll be before we see the first £1bn transfer fee.
From what I've read if Barcelona accept an offer for Fabregas - Arsenal get informed and can match the bid, then it's up to the player.
Rooney would be worth £1bn if it wasn't for his wages.
Yep, gone are the days when £30m was in the upper echelon of transfer fees, we do need to adjust to the current market. I don't really see why, if we have the money available, we shouldn't be willing to spend £53m on Fabregas.
Probably next Summer after Young's 30+ g/a tally.
Old, but fitting. If it's the right player, we will do it.
When asked by the Sunday Times if the club would be willing to spend £60 or £70 million for a single player, new chief executive Ed Woodward responded concisely:
"Yes. Absolutely."
I wouldn't take anything Woody says seriously mate, he's a fecking toy.
You're basing this opinion on less than a couple of months in the job?Edit- and us being involved in one transfer saga where he is audaciously going after your holy grail: A world class midfielder.
No mate, I'm basing it off a great film and two equally excellent sequels.
Yeah, this isn't even muppetry. It's just, talking with style.
Edit- and us being involved in one transfer saga where he is audaciously going after your holy grail: A world class midfielder.
Thank you.
As you were.
He then added 'there's a snake in my boots.'
You are a sad, strange, little man. And you have my pity.
I don't know what you think you just read, but you didn't get it. I was making a harmless Woodward=Woody from Toy Story joke.I changed the title in the newbies to 'Theres a Cesc in my boots'. They loved it.
I've said it for ages on here that the Caf is living in about 2007 when it comes to transfer fees. I appreciate you don't go in with your highest bid but bidding £26m for Fabregas is just derisory. With a player of his quality, you start at £33m and work up to around £45m. That's if Barcelona want to sell.
Woosh
That's a quote from Buzz to Woody.
Biggest overreaction/misunderstanding to a post yet?
Another one whooshed! I expected better of you, Hectic. Have none of you feckers seen Toy Story? My god.Speaking of figures - where did the story about the 100m "war chest" come from? Has anyone credible actually mentioned this figure? Moyes himself said there was no budget, that's all I have registered.
Anyway, let's assume we have a fair chunk of cash at our disposal. Let's say a hundred mill. If we really want Fabregas, if Moyes is certain it's the right move - well, it's not very complicated, is it? Sometimes you just have to cough up and damn the principles. No value in the market? Sure, but that old nugget doesn't really apply here. What value should be put on Fabregas necessarily varies depending on where you're sitting. Is he worth 50 or even 60 mill to us? Could be, yeah. He would be the biggest signing we've completed for years and he would without any doubt dramatically improve us in an area most would say is our Achilles heel.
If the war chest theory holds water, we could splash sixty on him and still buy another midfielder to provide cover for Carrick (one I hope is already lined up, by the way). We could even buy Baines on top of that, if Moyes so pleases. It would be heavy spending, certainly, but if the owners have sanctioned it - why the hell not?
Anyway, let's assume we have a fair chunk of cash at our disposal. Let's say a hundred mill. If we really want Fabregas, if Moyes is certain it's the right move - well, it's not very complicated, is it? Sometimes you just have to cough up and damn the principles. No value in the market? Sure, but that old nugget doesn't really apply here. What value should be put on Fabregas necessarily varies depending on where you're sitting. Is he worth 50 or even 60 mill to us? Could be, yeah. He would be the biggest signing we've completed for years and he would without any doubt dramatically improve us in an area most would say is our Achilles heel.
If the war chest theory holds water, we could splash sixty on him and still buy another midfielder to provide cover for Carrick (one I hope is already lined up, by the way). We could even buy Baines on top of that, if Moyes so pleases. It would be heavy spending, certainly, but if the owners have sanctioned it - why the hell not?
Oh for feck sake Toy Story you stupid stuffed wanker cnuts I will kill you.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23487484
Thiago Silva signs new contract at PSG, so that dents our faint hopes further.
Thiago Silva signs new contract at PSG, so that dents our faint hopes further.
They managed to sign him off of you with a derisory bid.
Why do Arsenal fans care so much about how much we've bid? Do you forget he doesn't play for you any more?
Yeah, £20-30m has become the price for good players in their prime or players aged between 22-25, you have to pay more than that for top class players.
This page is great!They got us because they were the only team he was ever going to leave for, and we signed him in dubious circumstances aged 15. It's not a normal transfer.
That's good.
Doesn't Arsenal get a chunk of whatever fee he is resold for?
The Toy Story theme on this page is great, only on the Caf!
You've got a friend in me, Alistair.
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