Fabregas
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No way you win the league, that was Ferguson's last hurrah. He realised it couldn't be done again and handed the shitty end of the stick to Gollum.
De Gea, Smalling, Jones, Rafael, Fabio, Cleverley, Januzaj, Powell, Kagawa, Hernandez and Welbeck all 24 or under. That's a genuinely shitty stick.
To be fair at this point Melo would be an improvement over what we have in midfield.
That's looking increasingly likely. Moyes knew of Fabregas situation (not being played in his favourite position, being given a more limited role than at Arsenal) and thought he'd be within our reach. All comments both from Barcelona and Fabregas camp point to the fact that Barca don't want to sell him and he doesn't want to leave - a hopeless position for us to be in.
Even if we got Fabregas, which I highly doubt, we will not win the league by ten points.
No, it wouldn't. He was horseshit at Juve, after a good season at Fiorentina. Nowhere good enough to make an improvement on our team. All of Cabaye, McCarthy and Fellaini are better players than him.
Why?
The prospect of earning more money and playing with a club like Manchester United tend to make people hesitate. Dortmund are not Barcelona. They have done very well lately thanks to Klopp. However they are still Bayern's feeder's club.
£60mil? Christ, you could get almost 3 Fellainis for that.
He tend to have the 'small club player' syndrome same as Howard, Foster and Taibi. They are excellent players for a small club but would break under pressure at a bigger club.
Still not a patch on 5 Cantonas.
Fine. Keep the 3rd Fellaini and we'll have 2 Fellainis and a Baines.
Better, I'd still try for 2 Fellainis and a Baines and a half, but it's acceptable.
I'm fully aware of that which is why i don't understand why people think he'll be so expensive like he plays for a Barcelona.
just when you thought this saga had neared the end, everyone's bandying £60m figures around!
sort it out!
sort it out!
We've heard that line a million times before.Old shithand won't disappoint.
Barca would take 40M+ quid, there's no way they wouldn't. That's serious money that can make a significant impact for them, something Cesc hasn't done and won't do.
Enjoy watching this thread from the outside, knob.
He's pretty crap but still better than Anderson. Cleverley and Carrick are better but that's about it. We have no midfield, truth be told.
Fabregas would improve our first XI by a greater margin than any player we've bought since Ronaldo.
For that not only would I not mind paying a Kaka sum of money, I'd expect it. People are still living in the 90's where World Class players cost £25m. Nowadays £25m is a fee paid for potential, or for a squad player.
I genuinely don't know where people get the idea of players' worth these days. Look around the market: Bale is worth £80m+, Cavani £55m, Suarez £45m+, Neymar £50m, Higuain £32.5m, Fernandinho £30m, Jovetic £26m, Negredo £21m, Navas £23m, Illarramendi £26m.
I'd put Fabregas ahead of probably all of those players right now.
For that not only would I not mind paying a Kaka sum of money, I'd expect it. People are still living in the 90's where World Class players cost £25m. Nowadays £25m is a fee paid for potential, or for a squad player.
I genuinely don't know where people get the idea of players' worth these days. Look around the market: Bale is worth £80m+, Cavani £55m, Suarez £45m+, Neymar £50m, Higuain £32.5m, Fernandinho £30m, Jovetic £26m, Negredo £21m, Navas £23m, Illarramendi £26m.
I'd put Fabregas ahead of probably all of those players right now.
Has there been any news regarding this transfer today? I don't dare go on Skysports or other websites, I've recorded the Utd game against the Hong Kong team and don't want to know the result (so don't spoil it guys please!), and the last I'd seen on this one was Moyes saying he wasn't sure whether there had been a new bid, which is what the title of the thread seems to refer to... Where are these £60M figures coming from? Serious sources?
You dont go from an opening offer of £25M and end up paying £60M as some are suggesting. And if you do you are an idiot and a completley incompetent negotiator.
Based on the opening offer Uniteds max limit is probably somewhere between £35-40M, if even that.
Based on the opening offer Uniteds max limit is probably somewhere between £35-40M, if even that.
Some on here would have believe as much.
The £60m figure was just a poster speculating on how much it might take to lure Fabregas from Barcelona considering the rumoured clause which grants Arsenal 0.5*(FEE-£27m) in payments; meaning a £60m fee would net Barcelona only £43.5m with £16.5m going Arsenal's way.
~£40m is what the poster believed Barcelona might want to receive for Fabregas, hence a much higher bid being the only way to achieve them receiving that amount (assuming the clause stuff is at all accurate). It makes sense when you think about it. If Barca genuinely do value Fabregas at £40m then why would they accept the bid of £40m knowing that they'd only receive £33.5m themselves after the £6.5m sell-on payment was made to Arsenal?
£53m is the actual figure that would need to be paid by United in order to see Barcelona receiving their £40m valuation for Fabregas in full:
0.5*(53-27)=13
53-13=40
Oh okay, thanks for clearing that up cider!
So what time is his supposed presser?
So basically £60m is the new £40m. Hard to keep up, things move fast on the cafe.
After our match so Fabregas can say he's concerned about getting games ahead of Jesse Lingard.
It may sound mental, but we should be able to pay £53m.
So what did Moyes say about this after the match?
Considering the prices being bandied about for other players, £53m for Cesc Fabregas doesn't seem too outlandish. It's all well and good saying that Bale isn't worth £80m and that Suarez isn't worth £50m, but if these are the fees other clubs are willing to pay for such players then that has a knock on effect on the entire market which ourselves and everyone else will just have to accept.
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