Well, I've only seen that a couple of times. But that's a whole different thing from thinking that United have little chance of getting the player because Barca need him too much. You've basically given up on the club if you think Moyes and the rest would stoop that low. This isn't Arsenal.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran are here to talk about a frustrating 2 points dropped at Crystal Palace. They then discuss the regeneration of Old Trafford. Finally, Nik is joined by special guest Michael Statham from the Football Oranje podcast - who gives us a more in depth look at our EL opposition FC Twente, and then runs through the (many) Dutch connections currently at United.
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Long as I get to eat the ice cream first. Maybe we should bring one for Cesc, apparently it's hot in Spain.
Exactly. What's the point of selling both Thiago and Fabregas? It doesn't make much sense. It's true that they've signed Neymar but they sold Villa. Losing both Thiago and Cesc would be a blow for Barca. Can't see them selling the latter.
Yes.
I'd leave the anorak at home. I repeat, we have an anorak at home situation.
I know that was a bit dramatic, I'm trying to make it sound a little more Cescy.
What was the point in us both selling Beckham and Veron. Really they are fringe players like it or not.. lets put some realism into this. Yes I agree this does seem abit odd with the fact Fabregas and said he doesn't want to leave but I don't find it odd if they want to let him go. He just hasn't worked at Barca. Simple. They still have Song and Mascherano they could easily not replace him but at the same time they could also go out and get an alternative cheaper midfielder.
I guess my optimism is rooted in my faith in the club - I refuse to believe it's amateur hour at United, that we're going blindly for a player who's given no indication that he'd move or that we're blindly pursuing this even though Barcelona have said it's a no-go. I don't believe we'd continue to waste our time were that the case.
I have re-read Moyes' quotes and think the following is particularly interesting:
If the response was as Sport have reported in Spain, why would we go back again? If we can all see that this is a blind pursuit, why can't the club's top brass? Our statements seem to point towards the fact that we're receiving some sort of encouragement.
I don't go with the idea that if we're rejected by Fabregas it'll put others off joing us or anything. But for really a handful of clubs coming to united is a step up and will always be a massive factor no matter what other players have rejected us. That said with how public its been allowed to become you'd have to hope there's good info that suggests to them they can give him. Both Moyes and Woodward are new to this effectively and so if it ends up going badly it won't be a great start for either and plus any other target we go for in midfield will know they're second choice and the selling club knowing that we've missed our prime target.
That said although Moyes and Woodward are the most visible I doubt they're going public etc against the clubs wishes, you'd think as a whole the senior figures would think we can get this player.
That said although Moyes and Woodward are the most visible I doubt they're going public etc against the clubs wishes, you'd think as a whole the senior figures would think we can get this player.
Patience my pretties, patience.
Xavi is aging. And Iniesta isn't getting any younger either. They need world class midfielders, not cheap alternatives.
Will Moyes be asked about this yet again at his post-match press conference tomorrow?
I can see Moyes eventually getting so fed up that he decides not to sign anyone just to piss people off.
I can see Moyes eventually getting so fed up that he decides not to sign anyone just to piss people off.
One thing's for sure, if we don't get Fabregas, the back up option is going to get slaughtered by the media.
Moyes needs to start reacting like Fergie if the line of questioning starts to piss him off, namely to refuse to answer the question and ban the journalist from future briefings.
Is anyone else annoyed about how public all of our transfer business is? I'd prefer Moyes kept shut about transfer dealings until they were almost complete.
Like I said before Xavi could play well up until his 36 they way he plays and he is still better than Fabregas. So does Fabregas have to wait untill he is 29/30 the final be first team.... Thiago you could understand with his age but not Cesc.
To easy our nerves? Doesn't really make a difference.. see Thiago.
yep I am, its silly especially if we don't end up signing him.
May have been posted but some of us have been at work all day
Jesus guys. I watch SSN and get a stiffy and I come on here and get flaccid. It's supposed to be the other way around!!
Well don't think it will be quite so extreme, but yeah I said it in that post more or less but it won't be great for the second choice. But I suppose what can you do? If they think this is what they need to do to land their main man then they've got to try it. I'd rather take a chance than not fully commit and have no chance, at the end of the day.
Because the deal is as good as done with the player.
Surely if he wasn't for sale they'd have said he wasn't for sale.
Erm, didn't they do just that?
"All that's left to sort out is the price and personal terms."
Ah yes, those minor details. That guy is a fecking joke.
Not really, getting agreement in principal that the player will join us is pretty big.
I kind of miss Fergie's silence on transfers now. Not sure if saying we have a bottomless pit and will do everything to sign Cesc is the wisest thing to do when it comes to business .
I can't believe I forgot to mention the one non-trivial Spanish media remark on Cesc today.
Puyol: "I think he'll stay. But I respect the decisions that my teammates take." - or words to that effect.
However there may have been some selective editing as they combined a Thiago and a Cesc answer on the TV news
Puyol: "I think he'll stay. But I respect the decisions that my teammates take." - or words to that effect.
However there may have been some selective editing as they combined a Thiago and a Cesc answer on the TV news
Indeed, what a fecking clown. Unfortunately that's the state of football journalism these days just rehash old news and make it sound slightly different so you can resell it as news.
Guardian reporting we'll try one final £35 million bid.
Except he's actually the only one reporting this story - virtually all other outlets are saying the deal's dead in the water.
The way that guy describes it it's like World War 3 has just broken out. I've never seen anything like him.
Guesswork. I bet most of us could come up with that one. Here goes:
£35m rising to £40m with add-ons. Anybody else agree?
Fair play for going after a player of Cesc's quality and I'm really happy at our new aggressive approach to signings but if they reject 35m we have to move on, the season is upon us and we haven't done any business yet surely we have other options to look at.
Do people think they will sell him for £35 million? I don't think they will.
Craig Norwood saying we will return with £35m.
it was clarified by a few reliable sources, they share the same media advisor but not the same agent.
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