Fabregas wants to go to Barcelona

Brwned said:
Nah I dunno, I reckon Ramsay's more Iniesta than Xavi. Relying on Ramsay to take on the same role doesn't seem wise, he might have more to his repetoire but you'll need to be spreading the responsiblity of play-dictating around a bit more. Fabregas can do it all on his own, not sure Ramsay's the same.
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I think you've got the wrong end of the stick there, Ramsey is far more Xavi than Iniesta. I've seen him run the midfield in the league cup and for Wales U21.
 
Seems I do! Very unusual, never looked that type of player to me so it'll be interesting to watch him get a run of games under his belt. I'd watched him run a game for Wales but in general he seemed much more interested in being an attacking threat than anything.

It'll make it that much harder to get over us missing out on him though.
 
Brwned said:
Seems I do! Very unusual, never looked that type of player to me so it'll be interesting to watch him get a run of games under his belt. I'd watched him run a game for Wales but in general he seemed much more interested in being an attacking threat than anything.

It'll make it that much harder to get over us missing out on him though.
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Definitely! And still only 19 as well, I don't think he is ready to dictate the Arsenal midfield just yet but maybe in a couple of years. Unfortunately for Arsenal I don't think Fabregas will hang around for two more years just yet.
 
Fabregas really has little say in the matter at this point. He's under contract and we're not going to let our captain go to a CL rival unless the price is right. Barca will try all this romantic crap about his heart being in Barcelona but this is business and the cnuts have to pay full price if they want him.

If he has a good WC, which is quite likely, then the price goes up so it's in our interest to drag it out for now.
 
Grinner said:
Fabregas really has little say in the matter at this point. He's under contract and we're not going to let our captain go to a CL rival unless the price is right. Barca will try all this romantic crap about his heart being in Barcelona but this is business and the cnuts have to pay full price if they want him.

If he has a good WC, which is quite likely, then the price goes up so it's in our interest to drag it out for now.
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Fabregas the slave.
 
Grinner said:
Fabregas really has little say in the matter at this point. He's under contract and we're not going to let our captain go to a CL rival unless the price is right. Barca will try all this romantic crap about his heart being in Barcelona but this is business and the cnuts have to pay full price if they want him.

If he has a good WC, which is quite likely, then the price goes up so it's in our interest to drag it out for now.
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Whilst I agree with the sentiment of what you're saying - it's what we did with our best player when his heart was elsewhere, after all - the bit I've highlighted isn't true. That might work with average-to-good players, but someone like Fabregas is already world class. Are you saying that if Messi has a poor World Cup he'll be worth less? Nonsense.

When you get to that plane of skill your price is no longer influenced by little runs of form like that. Both yourselves and Barcelona know how good Cesc is and how highly you value him - a good or bad World Cup won't affect that, because you know his class no matter what. The question is whether Barcelona will meet your valuation, however he performs.
 
Georgie Best said:
According to goal.com he is checking out his options to leave on the Webster ruling. Meaning that he can buy out his own contract, at almost £30m... Would be a bargain for Barcelona if they got him for that.

'Stressed' Fabregas examining legal options to push through move from Arsenal to Barcelona - Goal.com
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Every single player looking for a big move since the beginning of time has been linked with using that Webster ruling. No one ever has, or ever will.
 
Count Duckula said:
Every single player looking for a big move since the beginning of time has been linked with using that Webster ruling. No one ever has, or ever will.
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I know Jonás Gutiérrez did, when he left Mallorca for Newcastle. The rule exist and sooner or later it will happen. I bet many of these deals are kept secret because no club wants it to be public knowledge that they don't really own their players.

Cesc Fabregas has stated that he wanted to rejoin Barcelona for years now. All it takes is for him not being willing to not honor his contract.
 
Count Duckula said:
Whilst I agree with the sentiment of what you're saying - it's what we did with our best player when his heart was elsewhere, after all - the bit I've highlighted isn't true. That might work with average-to-good players, but someone like Fabregas is already world class. Are you saying that if Messi has a poor World Cup he'll be worth less? Nonsense.

When you get to that plane of skill your price is no longer influenced by little runs of form like that. Both yourselves and Barcelona know how good Cesc is and how highly you value him - a good or bad World Cup won't affect that, because you know his class no matter what. The question is whether Barcelona will meet your valuation, however he performs.
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anyone know what that valuation is?
 
Georgie Best said:
I know Jonás Gutiérrez did, when he left Mallorca for Newcastle. The rule exist and sooner or later it will happen. I bet many of these deals are kept secret because no club wants it to be public knowledge that they don't really own their players.

Cesc Fabregas has stated that he wanted to rejoin Barcelona for years now. All it takes is for him not being willing to not honor his contract.
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All it takes is about 40 million pounds.
 
I've learnt from reliable sources that this is what transpired in the conversation between Wenger and Fabregas:

So before Cesc left for the camp with Spain, he was called into the office by Arsene Wenger to discuss his impending departure.
From the sounds of it, the kid who’d gone is effectively to tell his boss that he wanted out and that there was no convincing him otherwise – came out saying his future was now in Arsene’s hands and that he was happy with either decision that the manager makes.

He also said it was, and I quote, ".. probably the greatest conversation I've had with anyone in my life”

What exactly could Wenger have said to the unsettled Cesc to swing the pendulum back in Arsenal’s favour? No one knows for sure... but sources say the following transcript may be the most accurate take on events:

Fabregas: I'm off!

Wenger: There is no escape. Don't make me destroy you. You do not yet realize your importance. You have only begun to discover your power. Join me and I will complete your training. With our combined strength, we can end this destructive conflict and bring order to the galaxy... er... I mean football.

Fabregas: I'll never join you!

Wenger: If you only knew the power of the Arsenal. Pat Rice never told you what happened to your father......

Fabregas: ...He told me enough.

Wenger: I am your father!

Fabregas: No.... No.... That's not true! That's impossible!

Wenger: Search your feelings..... You know it to be true.

Fabregas: <Quoted the next day in the press> It’s not up to me anymore...
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Christofaux said:
All it takes is about 40 million pounds.
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After last seasons's madness with Ronaldo and Ibra, would Wenger really let him go for 40? You've always done well when it comes getting good prices for selling players. Barca offering 30m is a bit of a joke TBH.
 
Georgie Best said:
According to goal.com he is checking out his options to leave on the Webster ruling. Meaning that he can buy out his own contract, at almost £30m... Would be a bargain for Barcelona if they got him for that.

'Stressed' Fabregas examining legal options to push through move from Arsenal to Barcelona - Goal.com
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What a disgusting and spoilt brat, after all the good things Wenger has done to him. If Barcelona give Cesc the money need to buy himself out of his contract, Barcelona will only be showing their true colors and hopefully the world will finally see how bad they actually are.
 
He'll stay another year and go next summer I reckon.

Barca are just doing the ground-work now, making their intentions clear and giving the signing that air of inevitably which will help it pass by without fuss next year, which is when they'll really need him.
 
Why does anyone read Goal.com and form opinions from it?
 
Lailiani said:
What a disgusting and spoilt brat, after all the good things Wenger has done to him. If Barcelona give Cesc the money need to buy himself out of his contract, Barcelona will only be showing their true colors and hopefully the world will finally see how bad they actually are.
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How is he a 'disgusting and a spoilt brat' if this article is seemingly based on nothing concrete?
 
Rowem said:
Why does anyone read Goal.com and form opinions from it?
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I met this Liverpool supporter the other day who insisted that Aquilani was going to be moved on. I had just finished saying 'Robbie Keane Mk II' when he mentioned Goal.com as the source and wondered why I burst out laughing.
 
Barcelona are hoping to secure the signature of Cesc Fabregas during the World Cup, according to corporate director general Joan Oliver.

The Arsenal captain's future has come under close scrutiny since the end of the season, with the Catalans confirming their interest and already having an offer for the player rejected.

The 23-year-old, who is currently with the Spanish squad in South Africa, has made no secret of his desire to rejoin the club he left to move to the Gunners at the age of 16 at some point in his career.

Arsenal are refusing to budge on their decision to keep the inspirational midfielder, who is one of the leading lights in the Premier League.

With Gunners boss Arsene Wenger in South Africa, Oliver insisted that he would do all he could to negotiate Fabregas' sale whilst the tournament was in progress.

"Cesc has arrived in South Africa to play the World Cup, but there are a lot of football people there," said Oliver.

"Wenger will be there and there will also be representatives of Barca (there).

"This is a three-sided affair and the third side (Arsenal) have not expressed themselves in any way.

"There is a player who wants to come here, but he has a contract. We have made an offer (of 35million euros) and they have said that the player is not for sale. The problem is between the player and the club; we haven't been invited to the table."

Despite their clear interest in securing Fabregas' signature, Oliver accepted that the process could be a lengthy one depending on Arsenal's willingness to discuss a deal.

However he dismissed claims that Real Madrid were also interested in the player, which could spark a bidding war that would suit Arsenal's desire to get as much money for the transfer as possible.

"You can never predict when a signing will be closed," Oliver added. "In this world, when you put a deadline on it, you always end up losing out.

"They (Arsenal) can negotiate with whoever they like.

"But what a coincidence... when Barca are negotiating for a player, another club appears out of the blue - it's always the same.

"We complete signings when the price is reasonable. And the story of Cesc is what it is. The player has said both publicly and privately that he wants to play for Barca."
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Massive douchebags and just as bad as Real when they tried to get Ronaldo. Arsenal has already made clear that Cesc is not for sale, so it should have really ended the debate.
 
......(Arsenal) have not expressed themselves in any way............they have said that the player is not for sale.


Spastics!
 
Anyone see the incident of fabregas wearing a barca kit (apparently thrown on him by puyol and pique)?
 
IBleedRed said:
Anyone see the incident of fabregas wearing a barca kit (apparently thrown on him by puyol and pique)?
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Wasn't it Reina? I am sure he would be overjoyed to see him join Barca.. Thus weakening Arsenal and the PL in general and who knows probably Reina is a future (1 or 2 years) transfer target for Barcelona himself..
 
Was like at PSV when someone ran a Barcelona shirt on the field and dropped it in front of Henry... i think that was the last game he played for Arsenal... or i could be mixing them up.
 
Chirag said:
Wasn't it Reina? I am sure he would be overjoyed to see him join Barca.. Thus weakening Arsenal and the PL in general and who knows probably Reina is a future (1 or 2 years) transfer target for Barcelona himself..
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Maybe he knows Arsenal are after a keeper and if fabregas goes for a good price wenger might come in for him.
 
Barcelona have acted like utter cnuts here, the arrogance of the Spanish Clubs is just amazing. Both Madrid and Barcelona act as if they're in another class as compared to the other clubs.
 
Xavi: Arsenal 'delaying the inevitable' on Cesc Fabregas move - Transfers - ESPN Soccernet
Xavi has claimed Arsenal are "delaying the inevitable" by trying to block Barcelona's attempts to sign Cesc Fabregas and that the transfer target told Barcelona's Spanish stars during the World Cup he wanted to join them at club level.


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Will Cesc Fabregas be playing alongside Xavi next season?

• Barca seek to build bridges

Fabregas has made up his mind about moving to Barcelona, according to Xavi, and although his respect for Arsenal's fans and the English club's resistance to sell could delay the switch for a year, he would effectively be "on loan" from Barcelona such is the certainty of his eventual move, Xavi said.

Fabregas was the subject of a reported £30million approach by the Catalan club prior to the World Cup but Arsenal appeared to gain the upper hand in the protracted saga when Barca coach Pep Guardiola conceded on Monday that the north London club would have the final say on the 23-year-old's future.

"We know where Cesc wants to be this coming season, but perhaps there is not enough time for Barcelona and Arsenal to agree a deal,'' Xavi told the Daily Express. "Arsenal need to understand they are only delaying the inevitable. If we don't manage to get his signature this season then Arsenal only really have him on loan for a year - because there is nothing they can do to stop him joining next summer.

"I haven't given up on him joining us this season but, if he doesn't, it won't be more than a year before he is back home. His people will have a whole season to sort out the deal between the two clubs and it will happen at the very latest next summer.''

Xavi claims Fabregas told his international team-mates he was keen on joining Barcelona while on World Cup duty.

"We were all with him for five weeks in South Africa and we know he wants to be at Barcelona, he made it very clear,'' Xavi said. "But he will under no circumstances do anything that will upset the Arsenal fans. And that's probably why we are going to have to wait for him for another year.''
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Xavi is a disgraceful classless piece of shit.
 
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