How much was it, Chief? I haven't a clue.
Fabregas wants to go to Barcelona
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No we don't.
Maybe they tried to throw Hleb in. I'd be pretty pissed off if anyone tried that with me. feck off, I'd say, I don't need no Hleb.
You wish Pougue. I didn't need to quote everything you said in defence of Barca...You are just making yourself look silly with your over board defence of Barca. They are no better than Madrid. Pointing that out doesn't make anyone a Real fan or a Ronaldo fan boi like you love to insinuate at every opportunity.
Yeah, outrageous defence that - 'Noone knows how much they bid".
I guess the point is Arsenal said no about 1000 times. If Arsenal were a woman, it'd be attempted rape. How many times do you have to say no? Fabregas should accept it as should Barca. They like to talk. Make a bid Arsenal can't refuse..
As it is they're fecking with Fabregas's head anyway and are bang out of order in doing so. They should shut the feck up and just make an acceptable bid. If none exists, piss off basically.
As it is they're fecking with Fabregas's head anyway and are bang out of order in doing so. They should shut the feck up and just make an acceptable bid. If none exists, piss off basically.
You real dumb if you think that's all I was referring too.
Arsenal is a woman, surely.
You should really have multi-quoted, Chief. A bit surprising that you didn't as it goes.
a French woman....
Yep, supposedly sexy and alluring, in reality disappointing.
I have no need to. Pogue eventually will say the same thing again. Like he often does when anyone criticises Barcelona.
So, anyway, 'everyone' knows how much they bid. Where, by 'everyone', we mean 'The Chief'. It's a shame that everyone won't tell anyone else how much it was.
Arsenal have no grounds for complaint.
Barcelona must think they're joking to want astronomical fees for what was their ill-gotten gain.
Imagine someone poaching one of our best young talents and then wanting maybe fifty times what they got him for (did Arsenal even have to pay a mill?) to give him back - it wouldn't go down well.
In the grand scheme of things, Arsenal committed the first wrong in this case seven years ago and now they should reap what they sow.
Saying that Barca are worse than Madrid (or the other way around) is pointless.They have their own disgraceful behavior.What Barca has been doing with Fabregas, R.Madrid has done it with several players and even former United players.
Barca claims to be "more than a club" which is real hypocrisy but do you think that R.Madrid doesn't consider the same about themselves ?
Like I said there isn't a club worse than the other, they just have their own flaws
Barca claims to be "more than a club" which is real hypocrisy but do you think that R.Madrid doesn't consider the same about themselves ?
Like I said there isn't a club worse than the other, they just have their own flaws
If that were the case, then Arsenal stole Barca's 'baby' and now it's caught up with them, like it always was likely to.
Fabregas is their product, not Arsenal's. People would do well to remember that before denouncing them.
That's a bit black and shite, isn't it, considering Fabregas has been at Arsenal since he was what - 16?
Spanish and South American players are gobshites
So?
They robbed him for a reason, that reason being, he was an excellent prospect who could come to a new country and way of playing, at 16, and fit right in.
The way Barca's academy is, there's no way it can be said he wouldn't have got his chances to shine there eventually.
I'm not at all in favour of exploits that can have a club snap up another sides' talent for pennies ( a tribunal fee) whilst leaving said club absolutely irate.
It's not their fault Barca never did enough too keep him. You seem to have conveniently ignored the fact Arsenal offered him first team football when he was basically a free agent. Free to choose to stay at Barca or move on. & moreover Arsenal made good on their promise. He was a first teamer aged 16. It's because of them Fabregas is what he is now, not because of Barca. So Arsenal are well with in their rights to complain.
Doesn't matter. Fabregas is Arsenal's player now.
Fabregas is a typical Argie
It's not a particularly wholesome practice but it doesn't give said club carte blanche to act like dicks when it comes to signing that player back again.
They aren't. Offering a 16 year old professional forms and turning his head in that way is morally reprehensible in itself given Barcelona are restricted by the rules of their league and should not have their hand forced in that way, which would be to drop Fabregas in their first team, or else. He's their product, ffs, it's preposterous they should be put in that position.
It's not going to be very hard to turn the head of a kid who is yet to know his arse from his elbow.
If the playing field at that time was fair and Barcelona simply offered their player less than Arsenal and it could be agreed to let him go there with both parties happy, then fair enough, but that's a completely different scenario to what happened and why Arsenal aren't in a position to complain about a damn thing now the problem, which was always going to arise, has come home to roost.
If they were irate at the time of deal going through, why not?
It wasn't amicable in the slightest.
That's rubbish.
But it does, they're crying about it. One underhand practice is simply being met with another. Arsenal have no grounds for complaint.
It's predictable you'd say that. It's not.
It doesn't need to be amicable. It was legal though.
There's a whole lot of water under the bridge since then and Arsenal have made Fabregas the player he is today. Barca might well bear a grudge but this doesn't give them the right to completely take the piss.
Put it this way, how would you feel if it was Lazio chasing Macheda using these tactics?
no seriously, that was rubbish
Arsenal signed a player, presumingly according to the footballing rules and laws.
Barca are using the typical Spanish tactics when they are trying to get their transfer targets, including having the management and players mouthing off in public.
Fabregas has a contract with Arsenal. If he wants to go to Barca, he should never have accepted that contract, and he can also make an official transfer request.
...which will be handed in before the week is out.
I think it does, tbh. If they were doing this to a player that wasn't theirs to begin with, I'd say they were completely out of order, but as they never wanted Fabregas to go and he was taken from them in such a fashion, there was always trouble brewing as Fabrgeas developed into the player they most likely expected he would.
He's theirs, and they want him back.
Regarding Macheda, if that happens to us, we'll have no grounds for complaint, if we took him without their blessing.
Indeed, also there is no guarantee Fabregas would have made it at Barca with the lack of playing time and focus on him. For every Iniesta, there's a Giovanni dos santos, graduating from La Masia does not mean you will make it.
Arsenal deserve credit for turning Fabregas into one of the best midfielders in the world, although I'm enjoying seeing their fans suffer.
That's cherry-picking.
Barcelona are coming for what they deemed theirs in the first place is how I see it, the rest is then quite immaterial given he was taken from them without their blessing.
Feck me, he is NOT Barca's player.
They probably didn't want Fabregas to go, but he did. And that was Fabregas' choice. No one else.
So any club that loses a player on Bosman who they would have liked to keep, are within the rights of dicking around to get the said player back?
Which winds back to what I already said. It's not going to be hard to turn the head of a 16-year-old whilst waving professional forms at him and a guarantee of first team football. Barcelona got fecked handily there.
In mind and spirit, you must surely know he considers himself theirs and whilst fond of Arsenal would always pick Barcelona over them.
And there's no need for the caps, it doesn't enhance your point.