Why not Fabio and Luke shaw knowing that he can also play RB. The guy started a CL final and wasn't bad. I really hope he gets his chance in the first team against Stoke.
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I still reckon we overrate Fabio a good bit... I mean, he's done very little here. Yes he started a Champions League final, but we hadn't really a nailed on right back that season. His brother's excellent progress clouds judgement slightly, I reckon anyway.
Obviously it's a mistake to assume Fabio could be as good as Rafael just because they are twins and his career has stalled a bit in comparison, but he did make the right back position his own in the latter stages of 2010/11. He's a good talent. Fully proven, no. Better than Evra or Rafael? No. Should have been given the couple of games Buttner was? Oh yeah.
No one is even suggesting he's the finished article but his potential is high and he's not even getting a look in over fecking Büttner.
He was a regular for them until it was clear that they'll get relegated so Redknapp decided to play players who would be there even after last season.
Nah he was never a regular. Plus the latter bit I also disagree with as Bosingwa was a regular.
Blatantly obvious Fabio is ready to start games for United. If Moyes doesn't see this, we will lose one of the twins which will be a grave, grave mistake.
Varela in comparison, is a bit naive in his supporting runs compared to Fabio. Varela passes and makes a run every single time, running into the space on the right wing. This is a bit predictable and can take up the space of the right winger. Fabio waits for the right moment to get forward. Varela will learn this, but right now there's definitely better support from Fabio
I'd be willing to eat my hat if I had on that Fabio will definitely leave United in the near future. He's a right back. He isn't a left back. We've got Rafael and Fabio wants to play all the time.
Actually he's a left back, and a good one. Sir Alex just disagreed and Moyes too
Moyes prefers Buttner at left back. Says it all.
If he doesn't play against Norwich, it's the end of his time at United. I would even let him go in January, the sooner he gets football the better, especially if he wants to be in with a chance of the Brazil WC team.
I would love him to have a future at United but if Buttner is chosen again, I can't see that hapening under Moyes which is crazy in my opinion.
I would love him to have a future at United but if Buttner is chosen again, I can't see that hapening under Moyes which is crazy in my opinion.
It really doesn't seem like he has a future here given our attempts in the summer to bring in another LB and the fact that when Rafael was out Moyes favoured Jones or Smalling at RB.
Even if he doesn't have a future here, there's no way he should be behind Buttner.
I don't think the pursuit of another LB has much to do with Fabio. We are losing (we were always going to at some stage) Evra, a world class LB, it's only nomal to look to replace that. Fabio would know that and really the squad needs competition everywhere.
We didn't buy an expensive RB replacement when Wes and Nev ran out of steam, we groomed Rafael and Fabio as best we could and then trusted both in the role. If Fabio was going to be a big part of our future then surely this was the season to prep him for Evra's place as opposed to bringing in another LB a year in advance thus putting two obstacles in his way this season. It's not as if Fabio is inexperienced or a kid anymore, if the LB spot wasn't going to be his when Evra leaves then it never will be IMO.
Rafael was ready to cement a spot. Fabio, over the length of a season could be a gamble. Whenever you lose a player, it's only normal to look at bringing someone in. Look when we lost Berbatov, did we promote a top striker in Hernandez? No, we signed RVP.
I agree that I think Fabio should be given a chance and I hope he does. I would love him to be our left back but I understand and agree with the club looking at potential left-backs now.
Fabio could be ready as well if he hadn't wasted a season at QPR and also spent this season as a proper alternative to Evra, I mean when we gave Rafael the RB role I don't think he was much better than Fabio is now. The RvP signing seemed to be more of a situation where an opportunity arose to bring in a world class player, I'm not sure Fergie would have bought any other striker that summer.
I can see why the club are doing it as I think there is a hesitation when it comes to having a right footer as your LB, but if a Baines or Contreao comes in I can't see that being anything but the end for Fabio and I think he got that message this past summer.
Sir Alex always wanted 4 strikers, RVP gave him that and to be honest, any manager should want 4 quality strikers.
I agree if it's first team football Fabio wants and a big name LB arrives, he will be off but if he is willing to play a part, I think he could have a future and nail down a spot in years to come.
Most teams don't carry 4 these days as most play with only 1 up top. I think if RvP hadn't arrived then Fergie would have alternated between Welbeck, Hernandeez and Kagawa as Rooney's partner up top.
I'd love for him to stay and go that route but I can't imagine he will, I think he'll feel he's waited long enough and if it is Contreao or Shaw that come in then given their ages he might as well be off.
I think the loan move was done to mature him by separating him from his brother for a short time. And that way he gets to play continuous games as well. The only reason his career has stalled is because of us misusing him. He can be as good as Rafael if given the right games. He needs encouragement and a little time. It's cruel how stubborn Moyes is on certain things when he clearly hasn't seen from all perspectives. He must have felt Fellaini and Baines were world class and deserved a better club and he's doing his best to provide that opportunity to them. In turn, it's our existing players who are suffering.
I know Baines is quality but Fabio can be as good only if he gets a run of games. He looked quite decent every time he has played. If he is sold because of "footballing issues" it will be baffling. Fabio will leave if we go in for another LB in Jan or the Summer.
I know Baines is quality but Fabio can be as good only if he gets a run of games. He looked quite decent every time he has played. If he is sold because of "footballing issues" it will be baffling. Fabio will leave if we go in for another LB in Jan or the Summer.
Remember this?
Yeh, performances like that just prove a right footed player can easily play at left-back and be an attacking threat.
I was watching this the other day, he was great in this game too and the goal while only a tap in, was a great goal.
I was watching this the other day, he was great in this game too and the goal while only a tap in, was a great goal.
Varela had tougher working conditions, especially in the first half when Everton's right-hand side was nonexistent.
It was that crazy match where Fergie fielded 7 defenders in the first half, wasn't it ? Talk about 'negative tactics'
To be fair I'd love to see Fabio playing at the LB as it seems that Evra's as good as gone but I still think that we've been pushing for Baines too hard to just let him go. Unless Everton blocks the transfers, we'll probably end up with him. Not that it bothers me, no, but it definitely is not a long-term replacement.
Sure, but I was just pointing out that he had a better game. You may well analyse and bring good arguments to the table as to why that was, but ultimately Fabio was the better player. I think one of the reasons why Fabio had better working conditions was that he utilized himself better. He doesn't always go for the overlapping run - he's actually quite intelligent in his attacking movements. Varela has things to learn there.
I will be very disappointed if Fabio doesn't get a chance to prove his worth this season. No need to buy Baines in January, so let's try to have a nice transition between Evra and Fabio and see how that pans out.
Yeah, can't really disagree with any of that.
Watching those videos just makes you realise how this lad needs to be playing regular football for a top club.
Him and his brother are both lovable characters so I always desperately wanted them to succeed here, delighted Rafael is turning into a top RB for us and it would be such a great thing to have twins playing either side of the back 4. I never really think you need to have a left footed left back, these are professional football players who train and play almost every day, if you put him and coached him at left back it would soon become second nature to him as he obviously has the natural talent.
Him and his brother are both lovable characters so I always desperately wanted them to succeed here, delighted Rafael is turning into a top RB for us and it would be such a great thing to have twins playing either side of the back 4. I never really think you need to have a left footed left back, these are professional football players who train and play almost every day, if you put him and coached him at left back it would soon become second nature to him as he obviously has the natural talent.
Btw, he said his main competition is his brother this season at RB position, so make what you want from that, but either Moyes told him that he can play him only as RB, or he likes playing RB more than LB, but I think it's the first one, I am sure he'd happy to play anywhere.
He started the first 4 matches of the season, then got injured through til xmas. Once fit, he then started 7 league games out of 8, before getting another injury that kept him out for a cople of weeks. he then returned as a starter until April when, as Revan said, Redknapp started working on the next season. So that's pretty regular, injuries aside.
I rate those 2 opinions more than your own
Its Fabio's opinion.
And I'll take his opinion on himself over 2 managers who play Ashley Young more than Nani
Has he ever said he considers himself a better leftback than rightback? Anyway i dont particularly value the opinion of players. Theo Walcott thinks he's a striker. Ashley Young thinks he's a footballer. I thought it was obvious to anyone that Fabio looks more natural on the right, its just that his brother stops him from playing regularly there, and Fabio is the more versatile one.
We've really made a mess out of our left back spot in the years to come. With Evra seemingly on his way out, we'll end up paying over 20 million for Baines who'll have a year left on his contract and with a few good years left in him. Fabio whose already grumbled about wanting to leave to play regular football, won't stick around to play second fiddle to Baines. After we get a few years out of Baines, then what? The popular choice is Luke Shaw which means we'd spend nearly 50 million on 2 left backs in a short span of time and that's even if he's still available when that time comes.
It would save alot of money to give Fabio a chance this season. And it's not like he's so poor that he'd be a liability and cost us games should we give him a run out in certain games.
It would save alot of money to give Fabio a chance this season. And it's not like he's so poor that he'd be a liability and cost us games should we give him a run out in certain games.
I'd like us to bring in shaw and let him and fabio battle it out whilst buttner wonders into abyss.
Fabio should be given the chance to play on the left, it was what he was bought be for! We have two quality twins, lets use one of them properly! Baines isn't getting any younger, and I for one don't think he will improve us at all, neither do I think Shaw will, who's not even at the level yet to play at a top 4 club he needs what everyone is shouting out for Fabio. EXPERIENCE. I don't get the logic that you want Shaw to replace Evra yet has never played top 4 football but Fabio isn't either.
If the left isnt happening, does anyone think he should get a few games in the reserves as a central midfielder and see how he adapts to the role? He has plenty of the skills needed to be a success there, just isnt offensive enough to be one of our wingers imo. But he could help defend from midfield, has some talent on the ball and he makes very good runs to support the attack. He should easily be a good option as a player breaking from midfield, whether or not he could adapt to control midfield with passing and the rest of it
I don't mean to be rude, but this post reminds me a lot of Scholesy's claim that Anderson should be a LB back in the day
I don't mean to be rude, but this post reminds me a lot of Scholesy's claim that Anderson should be a LB back in the day
I dont mean to be rude, but what? He said Anderson is a better left back than central midfielder. I'm saying if we arent willing to give him games at LB, he should have a chance in the reserves to see what he can do in central midfield because he has some of the skills to play there already.
Didn't Rafael and Fabio partner each other in midfield before?
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