It's a shame he got taken round the back and shot after his goal. You could see the sadness in his little face. RIP Fabio, you'll make a fine glue.
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He may never get another chance to.
I'm at the stage where I don't really care whether he plays in defence, attack or even in midfield - just as long as HE PLAYS!! I really want him to make it here.
My memory is probably letting me down, but I can't remember him ever really letting us down when he's played - only in the Palace game up against Zaha can I think he played badly, or that West Ham game we lost 4-0, but as I say my memory is probably failing me.
My memory is probably letting me down, but I can't remember him ever really letting us down when he's played - only in the Palace game up against Zaha can I think he played badly, or that West Ham game we lost 4-0, but as I say my memory is probably failing me.
Fabio is a top player. If Moyes lets him go, it will be a huge mistake.
Really? That was Zaha's first appearance last night, too.
What exactly has Fabio done in his career to be labelled a top player? A Champions League final appearance out of position in a season we didn't have a first choice right back? He's a likable lad, and certainly has potential. But some let his brother's progress cloud judgement.
But but...he was the more skilled player when they were 5 or something.
Who said that?
Most are calling for him to become 2nd choice at both RB and LB which is quite reasonable. He is clearly very talented and has the right attitude for a United player.
Don't you think Rafael's progress has something to do with him being given many more opportunities than Fabio?
But for injuries and a, quite simply, freak of nature in Patrice Evra I see no reason why they wouldn't have had a very similar progression curve.
That's a bit assumptive though, isn't it? You can't expect he'd follow the same trajectory as his brother.
Well you can sort of justify that with him being young and him not being ready or what not. What's the reasoning behind Fabio...
His Instagram pic makes me think he's off in January, it made me sad.
EDIT: The pic in question
http://instagram.com/p/gEXFQLK1b1/
EDIT: The pic in question
http://instagram.com/p/gEXFQLK1b1/
Why not? They progressed at a similar rate when they were kids and Fabio showed that, when given a run in the side, he can be excellent.
Games and an injury free spell is all it would take.
Just because they're twins, doesn't mean they're the same player. 
Fabio has curly hair at the moment so he's my favourite twin. I'm just failing to understand how he's gone from starting in a Champions League final to being behind Buttner, he had a good pre-season too, he should at least be backup for Rafael.
Just because they're twins, doesn't mean they're the same player.
The only time Fabio got a consistent run in the side he was brilliant and established himself as the first choice RB. He's proven he's good enough once already, just needs the chances to do it again.
Rafael was making the position his own till he got injured and Fabio took over and impressed Sir Alex enough to give him the game in the finals despite Rafael being fit for selection. Since then, he has never gotten a proper run in our first team, which is unfair to him seeing that he even picked QPR over Benfica for his loan as he wanted to adapt to the English game, despite Benfica offering him chances to play in European competition.
His dedication and talent definitely warrants him more chances to show us what he can do, but despite all this he finds himself stuck behind a bunch of players being played out of position and a defender who can't defend. No one is saying he'll definitely make it and be a star, but surely Fabio deserves more playing time then what he's currently being given.
*Insert obligatory "Fabio was meant to be the bigger prospect" comment*
Between this and the celebration, I think the intentions are fairly clear.
Ffs, if he leaves and Buttner stays, there will be blood.
Edit: there was also the interview a few weeks ago saying he would probably leave
Does no-one else think the clever run and smart finish is the kind of thing that shows he's the more (footballing) intelligent twin? His attacking runs are always more clever than anything we see from Rafael, the same is true of his passing...it just seems really clear IMO.
I hope he still has a future at the club. His celebration against Norwich was quite subdued and I hope it isn't meant as a farewell as some suggest.
I'd personally see him as a player who can apply immediate competition for both fullback positions, with a view to eventually making a breakthrough into the first team. That would still allow him to get plenty of gametime and develop at a fairly fast rate.
Moyes seemingly favours Buttner as the second choice left back with Jones and Smalling providing cover for right back unfortunately - although he is certainly better than Buttner. If we brought in an experienced left back like Baines it could allow Fabio to succeed him in a few years.
I'd personally see him as a player who can apply immediate competition for both fullback positions, with a view to eventually making a breakthrough into the first team. That would still allow him to get plenty of gametime and develop at a fairly fast rate.
Moyes seemingly favours Buttner as the second choice left back with Jones and Smalling providing cover for right back unfortunately - although he is certainly better than Buttner. If we brought in an experienced left back like Baines it could allow Fabio to succeed him in a few years.
He's been waiting for his chance to get games at left back for a few years already, if we sign Baines, it's the end of his career with us. No matter how talented he is, he needs playing time to improve.
Rafael's improvement in ability comes from minutes on the pitch. There is little to indicate that Fabio couldn't develop the same way, but he simply isn't getting enough minutes on the pitch.
I would rather blood him in to games to replace Evra than go down the Baines route.
A defensive set up of De Gea, Rafael, Fabio, Smalling, Evand and Jones leaves us well stocked for the next 10 years!
I would rather blood him in to games to replace Evra than go down the Baines route.
A defensive set up of De Gea, Rafael, Fabio, Smalling, Evand and Jones leaves us well stocked for the next 10 years!
Hypothetically, if Evra leaves as a free agent at the end of the season, we sell Buttner and bring in Baines; we would have three natural first team fullbacks in Rafael, Baines and Fabio. Fabio would be first choice backup for both right back and left back and would still feature in a number of games, if we progressed far in all competitions. As long as Fabio has reassurances over a fair bit of gametime I'm sure he'd be happy to stay. As it is, Moyes is opting for Buttner, Jones and Smalling over Fabio for backup in the fullback positions.
feck sake moyes you idiot, give this fecker game time and he will be our number 1 left back for years to come. DO NOT LET THIS GUY GO.
I agree with this. I love Moyesie so far, but Fabio's lack of involvement is the one thing that puzzles me the most. I wish some journo would ask about it, instead of asking other mindless questions.
Given more opportunties or EARNED more opportunities? Fabio did ok for QPR last season, not great though did he.
Why wouldn't they have a similar progression curve? Because even with twins no two players are exactly the same.
I think he can be a pretty good player, but let's not go overboard with all this mistreatment nonsense. Though it is par for the course everytime there is a player who doesn't get a lot of games, it always comes down to SAF or now Moyes having something against the player.
Based on that Instagram pic and his celebration last night, I'm sure he knows he's off in the January window. Shame if so.
His performances for Manchester United suggest that he has the potential to become world class. I still think Fábio is technically better than Rafael, he's certainly a better dribbler and passer IMO. He's not a top player just yet, but what makes me think he'll reach this level is his performances in 10/11. He played really well in the UCL, against the likes of Rangers, Marseille, Schalke, and even Barcelona - we're talking about a very talented player who has already proved that he can play in big games. Fergie played him in several crucial games that season, towards the end. He played in four of our last five fixtures, if I remember correctly, against Everton, Arsenal (our best player), Chelsea, and Blackburn.
Moyes playing Buttner is baffling because we have a better player in Fábio. Moyes playing Smalling and Jones at right back is also baffling because we have a better player in Fábio... And when he plays as a right back, he's not really out of position.
he looked so sad
I think he is one of those players who could play well in any position (apart from CB and Goalkeeper) because of his technique, passing and. intelligence.
It is a pity he is under-utilized. still only 23, once he starts playing regularly and keeps away from injury he will be a star for whichever team he plays
I think he is one of those players who could play well in any position (apart from CB and Goalkeeper) because of his technique, passing and. intelligence.
It is a pity he is under-utilized. still only 23, once he starts playing regularly and keeps away from injury he will be a star for whichever team he plays
wow, people are getting a little hyped up here!
He's 23, and hasn't come close to nailing a position down.
He's right footed, and isn't Irwin, so won't ever be a regular left back. And he has his better brother blocking his path on the right!
Keep him as a squad player by all means, but let's not hype him too much!
He's 23, and hasn't come close to nailing a position down.
He's right footed, and isn't Irwin, so won't ever be a regular left back. And he has his better brother blocking his path on the right!
Keep him as a squad player by all means, but let's not hype him too much!
When did Buttner ever earn his opportunities? All he's ever done is shoot the ball really hard, defensively he's been found wanting every time he's played.
At RB, both Smalling and Jones have had some very poor performances too. So why aren't we giving Fabio a shot?
Moyes is getting to know his squad daily, I'm sure he has an idea of who he wants in his squad for the future
But that's exactly what lots of people here are contending, between Fabio and Buttner being a part of his future plans, literally no one here believes it should be the latter. The only good possible reason I've heard is Fabio's contract situation.
Obviously he has. Of course none of us see the training so we have no idea what any player shows there. But of course SAF sent him off to QPR rather than play him and Moyes obviously has inherited the hate for Fabio, that is the only explanation right?
How did he really do at QPR last season? Ok, but not great.
My point really was though it seems that everytime there is a player not getting what some forum posters think is enough playing time they put it down to the manager having something against him. Seen it with dozens of players over the years, some who went on to do well elsewhere, but to be honest most have faded into background of the football world. I know it is more fun to assume the manager hates a player, but the reality is usually that it not the manager holding the player back.
And now after giving some others a shot, here we saw Fabio get a shot, so what is the problem? Nothing really.
got a feeling that once moyes let him go, he'll establish himself elsewhere and become a very good player. then he will join the group of players that we should have never let go in the first place.
Those people need something to moan about to function imo, they didn't give a crap about Fabio last season or the season before. These were the same people who were hating on carrick, and now love him. Its trying to find fault in a really good game.
Possibly or he could become part of a group of players who do well elsewhere but not quite good enough for United or might be one of those who don't do well elsewhere or he could still end up staying at United and being a good player for us. Only time will tell.
When did Fabio get a shot? 5 minutes at the end of a match where Buttner was preferred to him?
I'm not saying Fabio will definitely be a world class player, just that he's better than Buttner at LB, and probably better at RB than Smalling and Jones.
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