Coentrao seems a perfect fit regarding our need and their lack of desire to play or keep him. Plus the fact we nearly signed him in August.
Fabio Coentrao
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
Coentrao is excellent value, in my opinion the perfect signing we could make and at a really fair price. I was more annoyed about this falling through on deadline day than the whole Fellaini and Herrera thing.
Get moving, get a bid in there. This one is clearly do-able and would be a great buy.
If we do get him, how long before he is moved to CM?
I've missed a bunch of episodes of the Real Madrid Soap Opera this season, so can someone explain to me what's going on with Coentrao and Real Madrid? In the summer, I thought Real stopped the deal because the player they wanted to replace him with signed for someone else. Has someone else been used at left back or have they found another player they can replace him with and selling Coentrao to us depends on whether they can get him or not? I would prefer Shaw if I had a choice, but Coentrao would be an excellent signing for us.
Yes.
Marcelo's their first choice and Coentrao has hardly played. If they were to sell Coentrao to us, not much would have changed from the summer - they'd still need to find a replacement.
That only adds to the reasoning we should be in for him to be honest. He's an effective defensive midfielder.
And the depressing thing is he'd do a better job than our £28m CM.
Sounds like things have been spoken about with the player but the club dont want to sell.
They were only replacing him with a backup, a loan of a young player from Granada. When we dallied with the paperwork the player took a loan at Benfica instead.
They've still got the same need. Before they can sell Coentrao they'd need to get cover in, but compared to the usual problems of buying a player mid-season that's not necessarily insurmountable.
Madrid's problem is they may need two backups. Varane is still injured, so basically if Coentrao leaves they have only 5 available first team defenders.
Basically if we've not already got the offer in and they're not already looking for options, then this deal won't happen.
Anyone got access to the Times?
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/article3967749.ece?CMP=OTH-gnws-standard-2014_01_06
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/article3967749.ece?CMP=OTH-gnws-standard-2014_01_06
There's been a few things on twitter tonight about a deal with Coentrao, but who knows how true it is. I'm glad Moyes actually gave the players a bollocking after Swansea. At least he didn't think we really were quite good after getting to the edge of the box a few times.. I trust James Ducker more than most journalists as well.
The Coentrao deal is off. Madrid (Ancelotti) don't want to sell.
This guy has never made more than 26 league apps in a season. Is he another sick note?
Thanks for finally giving us the definitive word on this. I've been trying to ignore the speculation until Danny1982 can let me know the truth. Will pass the message on.
You're welcome.
Ducker is pretty good. There's a bit too much smoke for this one for me. I say it's on and it would be a good start. None of this Baines nonsense, that ship has sailed.
Chelsea need a left back, is it not odd that Mourinho doesn't seem to be interested if he's that good? I've never been convinced by him, but I've only seen him play about 10 times so I could be wrong.
I think they've personally already got Shaw in the bag. He's a huge Chelsea fan and a local southern lad. Will probably be happy to stay 1 more year then move straight to Chelsea in place of Cole.
David Moyes tore into his Manchester United players in a furious dressing- room tirade after the FA Cup third-round defeat at home to Swansea City on Sunday.
The United manager was incensed by the poverty of the performance, despite largely defending his players in public, and warned that futures were at stake unless they arrest the slump that has added to a growing sense of gloom at Old Trafford.
Swansea’s 2-1 victory was United’s fourth defeat in their past six home matches and heightened the pressure on Moyes before the first leg of their Capital One Cup semi-final away to Sunderland this evening, a competition that may represent his only realistic chance of silverware this season.
Having admitted that he needs to sign players “urgently”, though, Moyes is hopeful of a breakthrough in the transfer market, with United thought to have agreed personal terms with Fabio Coentrão, the Real Madrid and Port-ugal left back for whom they made a failed bid in the summer.
Real have claimed publicly that Coentrão is not for sale, but it isbelieved that the Spanish giants aretrying to drive up the price and are open to selling, although there is a risk of the deal getting dragged out.
Moyes turned to the 25-year-old, who has won 43 caps for Portugal, amid reluctance to meet Everton and Southampton’s £25 million valuations of Leighton Baines and Luke Shaw respectively.
Angered by the display againstSwansea, Moyes has demanded a swift response against Sunderland, but his hopes of avoiding another cup upset have been dealt a severe blow, withneither Wayne Rooney nor Robin van Persie, his first-choice strikers, likely to be fit to feature at the Stadium of Light.
“We have to look into a lot of things,” Moyes said. “It’s not just this period, near enough since the start of the season we have never really caught fire.
“We’ve had moments, bits of good play, some good results, but not really as consistent or reliable as we’d like to be, particularly at home, so we have to try to make that better.”
Rooney may face a late fitness assessment, but there is an acceptance that Moyes would be taking a huge risk by playing him.
The England forward has missed two of his club’s past three matches withan abductor problem that would ordinarily require about a fortnight’s full rest. Yet with the Barclays Premier League champions so heavily reliant on their talisman and wrestling with numerous other injuries, Rooney has shown a willingness to play through the pain barrier. He could return to the team for the league match at home to Swansea on Saturday.
Van Persie, who has been out for the past four weeks with a thigh strain, has begun light training after returning to Manchester from the Netherlands, where he was receiving treatment, but the striker has indicated that he is not ready to return to action.
Phil Jones, the defender-cum-midfielder, has a chance of playing against Sunderland, but Moyes will still be without Rafael da Silva, Marouane Fellaini, Nani and Ashley Young. Rio Ferdinand, the centre half, underwent a scan yesterday on a knee injurysuffered against Swansea.
Moyes is desperate to sign new players this month as the club bid to avoid the calamity of finishing outside the top four and the severe impact that would have on their summer rebuilding plans, not to mention their prospects of tying Rooney to a new contract and retaining other key assets such as Van Persie and David De Gea.
The potential capture of Coentrão would be a boost at a time when the scrutiny on United is likely to be intense after their litany of failures in the transfer market last summer, although Moyes has been told that money will be no obstacle to signing players.
Coentrão aside, Marco Reus is a leading target, but United’s hopes of prising the Germany attacking midfielder from Borussia Dortmund have been dealt another setback with the news last week that Robert Lewandowski, his team-mate, has agreed to join Bayern Munich in the summer.
Koke is another player Moyes wants, but as Atlético Madrid are level on points with Barcelona at the top of La Liga and dark horses to win theChampions League, it would require an outlandish offer for the club even to consider parting company with thegifted young Spain midfielder.
The United manager was incensed by the poverty of the performance, despite largely defending his players in public, and warned that futures were at stake unless they arrest the slump that has added to a growing sense of gloom at Old Trafford.
Swansea’s 2-1 victory was United’s fourth defeat in their past six home matches and heightened the pressure on Moyes before the first leg of their Capital One Cup semi-final away to Sunderland this evening, a competition that may represent his only realistic chance of silverware this season.
Having admitted that he needs to sign players “urgently”, though, Moyes is hopeful of a breakthrough in the transfer market, with United thought to have agreed personal terms with Fabio Coentrão, the Real Madrid and Port-ugal left back for whom they made a failed bid in the summer.
Real have claimed publicly that Coentrão is not for sale, but it isbelieved that the Spanish giants aretrying to drive up the price and are open to selling, although there is a risk of the deal getting dragged out.
Moyes turned to the 25-year-old, who has won 43 caps for Portugal, amid reluctance to meet Everton and Southampton’s £25 million valuations of Leighton Baines and Luke Shaw respectively.
Angered by the display againstSwansea, Moyes has demanded a swift response against Sunderland, but his hopes of avoiding another cup upset have been dealt a severe blow, withneither Wayne Rooney nor Robin van Persie, his first-choice strikers, likely to be fit to feature at the Stadium of Light.
“We have to look into a lot of things,” Moyes said. “It’s not just this period, near enough since the start of the season we have never really caught fire.
“We’ve had moments, bits of good play, some good results, but not really as consistent or reliable as we’d like to be, particularly at home, so we have to try to make that better.”
Rooney may face a late fitness assessment, but there is an acceptance that Moyes would be taking a huge risk by playing him.
The England forward has missed two of his club’s past three matches withan abductor problem that would ordinarily require about a fortnight’s full rest. Yet with the Barclays Premier League champions so heavily reliant on their talisman and wrestling with numerous other injuries, Rooney has shown a willingness to play through the pain barrier. He could return to the team for the league match at home to Swansea on Saturday.
Van Persie, who has been out for the past four weeks with a thigh strain, has begun light training after returning to Manchester from the Netherlands, where he was receiving treatment, but the striker has indicated that he is not ready to return to action.
Phil Jones, the defender-cum-midfielder, has a chance of playing against Sunderland, but Moyes will still be without Rafael da Silva, Marouane Fellaini, Nani and Ashley Young. Rio Ferdinand, the centre half, underwent a scan yesterday on a knee injurysuffered against Swansea.
Moyes is desperate to sign new players this month as the club bid to avoid the calamity of finishing outside the top four and the severe impact that would have on their summer rebuilding plans, not to mention their prospects of tying Rooney to a new contract and retaining other key assets such as Van Persie and David De Gea.
The potential capture of Coentrão would be a boost at a time when the scrutiny on United is likely to be intense after their litany of failures in the transfer market last summer, although Moyes has been told that money will be no obstacle to signing players.
Coentrão aside, Marco Reus is a leading target, but United’s hopes of prising the Germany attacking midfielder from Borussia Dortmund have been dealt another setback with the news last week that Robert Lewandowski, his team-mate, has agreed to join Bayern Munich in the summer.
Koke is another player Moyes wants, but as Atlético Madrid are level on points with Barcelona at the top of La Liga and dark horses to win theChampions League, it would require an outlandish offer for the club even to consider parting company with thegifted young Spain midfielder.
I don't think that's the way you rate a player. This is a club who spent £30m on Willian who does sweet feck all.
Imagine buying players just so teams you like can't have them.
At least with Bayern & Lewandowski they were looking for a top class striker anyway.
I hope he really did lay into the players. I know Moyes can't be completely innocent for our slump, but I think it's largely due to the players under-performing. Is it the manager's job to get the players performing well? Yes. But these players have won for many years under Fergie - if they can't keep the winning mentality then they shouldn't be at the club. Otherwise, what the feck did they learn playing under Fergie?
I also hope this Coentrao thing is true. He'd give us a huge lift, and his versatility will no doubt be key to us.
I also hope this Coentrao thing is true. He'd give us a huge lift, and his versatility will no doubt be key to us.
I'm not convinced that had anything to do with Mourinho though, they'd tried to sign him before and if Spurs weren't set to sign him I doubt they'd have gone back in for him. He's been starting for them recently though, so he can't be that bad.
Brilliant news if true. Come on you slags.
He'd be perfect for us. Please happen.
Good to hear he is having a proper go at them. Also the Coentrao news give me a semi
He's another Mendes client isn't he?
Quite plausible that any minor details between us and them are ironed out. Getting Madrid to deal when they don't want to deal is an obvious stumbling block. Bastards take Ronaldo for a snip at £80m and won't even repay us with a skinny blonde left-back.
Quite plausible that any minor details between us and them are ironed out. Getting Madrid to deal when they don't want to deal is an obvious stumbling block. Bastards take Ronaldo for a snip at £80m and won't even repay us with a skinny blonde left-back.
After all that we have given Real Madrid they should just play nice and give us a bloody LB.
At this point even a Bebe-esque signing would give us a lift.
Do we have the option of recalling Bebe from loan?
Brilliant news if that's true (from the article).
Thank you
Isn't this sort of old news though? I mean even the Guardian article from 4-5 hours ago had the line:
They've got a few options actually. Apart from Cole they have Bertrand and now Azpilicueta who has been playing on the left and doing well. With Ivanovic on the right they can continue that way if need be.
This is definitely the signing we're most likely to make this window. A) It makes a lot of sense, B) It'll probably be good value, C) we already know we went for him in the summer so there's confirmed interest and D) Ducker is one of the more reliable journalists and he's reporting it.
Would be a very good buy, I think. Would already be our best LB and has the potential to improve. At least we'd have solved one of our problems in this window, a bit of progress.
Would be a very good buy, I think. Would already be our best LB and has the potential to improve. At least we'd have solved one of our problems in this window, a bit of progress.
And he can also play in midfield.
And as a winger. If he can manage us too all our problems will be solved.