If I remember correctly, the Pogba thread in the transfer forum last year started (or at least re-started) after a link to a Castles article was posted here.
Fabinho
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See all this smell of burning and there is no smoke not to even think about fire yet. But...
Look at this.
Who the hell is promoting this story, its 4.8 out of 5 to be done.
Without any statement or proof of anything from any of the 3 parties. Mental stuff
Slightly ridiculous that it's rated higher than Lindelof and we've officially announced an agreement on that
Exactly on little more than whispers as of yetSlightly ridiculous that it's rated higher than Lindelof and we've officially announced an agreement on that
Stop bumping this ye muppets!!!
That seems a bit of a waste of the salary Mendes' people are so plainly paying him.
Slightly ridiculous that it's rated higher than Lindelof and we've officially announced an agreement on that
No Morrata on there either...
I like Dier, but if he is ahead of Fabinho in our scouting list I'd be shocked. I'm pretty sure he doesn't even qualify as a homegrown player if that a consideration as some point.
Di Marzio said he was a target back in May, looks like it's still a strong target. Morata Fabinho Perisic Lindelof and Griezmann next year.
What's good about him?
There really isn't anything that solid on Fabinho, don't feel like this one will happen.
What's this guy even like? Who would be a comparison for him? I've never seen him play before and am wondering why his name keeps popping up as a high priority target.
The feck's an alternative signing?
https://www.whoscored.com/Players/115916/Show/Fabinho
I know stats aren't everything, but Fabinho is DM in the mould of Carrick - calmness, positioning and passing in the middle of the pitch. Also has the height for set-pieces and takes great penalties. Getting Fabino and Morata means we can play a 433, with Herrera and Pogba pushing up more to support the attack with the knowledge that they have Fabinho behind them for cover. Essentially, an upgrade of present-day Carrick.
Only problem in a 433 is that the front trio have to start scoring. We were too reliant on Zlatan last season, and our wingers (more like inside forwards) did not chip in enough goals. However, with a 433 and assuming Darmian is at LB, our formation when attacking can shift to become a 3-1-4-2, with Perisic providing width from the left and Pogba pushing up from left midfield in the space that the opposing RB vacates. Similarly, we have Valencia pushing up on the right, linking with Herrera, while whoever was starting nominally on the right flank will be alongside or around Morata. Darmian will then tuck in from the left to make a back 3, with Fabinho just ahead of them.
Alternative to Dier.
Two questions.
While I'm keen for this signing, why did he leave RM and go to Monaco?
If this is just some rags stirring us muppets up, who would be a likely alternative?
While I'm keen for this signing, why did he leave RM and go to Monaco?
If this is just some rags stirring us muppets up, who would be a likely alternative?
Are we targeting Dier? Haven't seen any news report linking us to Dier
There were reports a while back but the sole fact that we have to deal with Levy is a deal breaker by itself. Not to mention that English players tend to attract higher fees.
See all this smell of burning and there is no smoke not to even think about fire yet. But...
Look at this.
Who the hell is promoting this story, its 4.8 out of 5 to be done.
Without any statement or proof of anything from any of the 3 parties. Mental stuff
Maybe we should start up a Suarez to Utd just to p!sss off liverpool
Would only share what mourinho wants to share. Looks like this time the club want hush hush on the targets and were only willing to make griezmann deal public knowledge as it would be used commercial. Bailly when he was signed had no links to us. Mkhi was also a sudden purchase. I think the less glamourous the player the low profile is kept for the transfer.
You are onto something here but how would the front two work? Who would it be? Morata and who?
If Fabinho is an alternative to Dier then we should sign our alternative options more often.
Alternative? He's much better and cheaper than Dier.
The above is Chelsea's 2004-06 shape during a time most teams played a flat 4-4-2 and this is what Mourinho said:
Below is a Zonalmarking.net analysis:
I think this is how he would set us up if we played a 4-3-3 whereby Fabinho would take the Makelele role, Pogba the Lampard role and Herrera the Essien role
Nice post but he's nothing like Carrick, we need to move away from these types of comparisons. Fabinho is Defensive CM. Carrick has/had far superior quality than fabinho has ever shown. Parades has similar quality to Carrick, fabinho is a destroyer with limited qualities, keep it simple and let others do the work. We've had the second coming of Carrick for a while now, Blind, Bastian, Morgan they all failed to replace him. Maybe a Fabinho and Pogba partnership would work, I don't know. All I'm saying don't expect Fabinho to be anything like what Carrick is/was, you will be disappointed.
He is a defensive CM who can pass the ball, has a bit of range & accuracy, can thread a through ball and can create space for himself. I agree, he is not Carrick and he doesn't have to be but as long as those limited qualities can get the job he will be assigned done then he should be a great signing.
Wow, couldn't disagree more. This is not an opinion I imagine many will share with you.
He may not be the same player as Carrick, but he offers more pace, directness and versatility. It was the same when Carrick first joined - people were asking why he was no Keano. He is not a destroyer who goes out searching for tackles like Kante or Schneiderlin - in fact, his composure in midfield is pretty reminiscent of Carrick himself.
Agreed
The above is Chelsea's 2004-06 shape during a time most teams played a flat 4-4-2 and this is what Mourinho said:
Below is a Zonalmarking.net analysis:
I think this is how he would set us up if we played a 4-3-3 whereby Fabinho would take the Makelele role, Pogba the Lampard role and Herrera the Essien role
Yes, I think this could be what we might see next season if we get Fabinho, especially in tight games. In easier games, we might got 4231 for a bit more threat from a goal scoring no.10. Carvalho was also pretty good on the ball, similar to how Lindelof is. Problem is that we need a Robben and Cole combi - which at the moment seems to be Rashford and Mkhi, provided we fail to get Perisic in for that left flank.
I'm sure it's because he played for their Castilla team and most likely wanted first team football.
I think, judging on the transfer rumours, that Mourinho is building a team for Pogba to become the absolute star of the show. Nearly everyone in this lineup is industrious and it will give Pogba the freedom to play his natural game and I suspect become (post Messi and Ronny) the most marketable player in the world. The Glazers aren't stupid either, this is probably a strategy influenced by marketing ROI:
---------------Morrata------------------
----------------Belotti-------------------
--------------Rashford------------------
Perisic------------------------------Miktahryan
Martial------------------------------Linguard
-----------Pogba------Herrera---------
------------Mata------Fellaini----------
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----------------Fabinho------------------
---------------- Carrick-------------------
It's also looks balanced and with good strength in depth.
It wouldn't surprise me to also see two pacey fullbacks coming in for extra depth on either flank too
---------------Morrata------------------
----------------Belotti-------------------
--------------Rashford------------------
Perisic------------------------------Miktahryan
Martial------------------------------Linguard
-----------Pogba------Herrera---------
------------Mata------Fellaini----------
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----------------Fabinho------------------
---------------- Carrick-------------------
It's also looks balanced and with good strength in depth.
It wouldn't surprise me to also see two pacey fullbacks coming in for extra depth on either flank too
Just pass it round on twitter over and over.
You've clearly never seen him play once have you
Agreed, and if we get Perisic, a player that can also play on the right wing, he could easily swap wings with Mkhitaryan during the game just as Robben and Cole used to do. Biggest problem is our left back situation in my opinion -we need to sort that out if Luke Shaw doesn't hit form this season
more and more "known sources" getting on the Fabinho bandwagon. Hope the naysayers will be happier.
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