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I just dont think this is happening. I think its more realistic that we are in for Matic and Dier unfortunately
 
Yeah thanks for that. For some reason I thought a verbal agreement would stand up in a court of law. not :lol:
But then illegal agreements aren't enforceable at law and its against the rules to agree with a player before you are granted permission by his current club to speak to him.
 
Age, check
Skillset, check
versatility, check
Position, check
Physicality, check
Wants to come, check
attainable, check
price, check

MUFC - do not want.

This fecking club drives me crazy sometimes.

You can be certain this guy will end up one of those "why the hell didn't we go for him two years ago" type of players.
 
Age, check
Skillset, check
versatility, check
Position, check
Physicality, check
Wants to come, check
attainable, check
price, check

MUFC - do not want.

This fecking club drives me crazy sometimes.

You can be certain this guy will end up one of those "why the hell didn't we go for him two years ago" type of players.
I agree. Fabinho makes perfect sense for so many reasons. One thing I liked about Mourinho when he was at other clubs was his "directness" in the market. It's not as though he had a perfect record with transfers, but he had a knack for identifying the right (sometimes obvious) targets to fill positions on his roster, and then getting those players. They're different players, but this reminds me a bit of Essien several years ago. He was a perfect target for so many reasons, and I was envious that Chelsea got him. Really, the only explanations for Jose preferring Matic over Fabinho is familiarity, trust, and a desire / pressure to win the league next season. Those are factors which can't be dismissed, of course.

At the end of the day, if we don't get Fabinho, it's likely because Mourinho thinks we are better off with someone else. I'll give him the benefit if the doubt, but I'll be very disappointed if we let Fabinho go elsewhere and fail to strengthen the midfield adequately.
 
Age, check
Skillset, check
versatility, check
Position, check
Physicality, check
Wants to come, check
attainable, check
price, check

MUFC - do not want.

This fecking club drives me crazy sometimes.

You can be certain this guy will end up one of those "why the hell didn't we go for him two years ago" type of players.
Sort of like the feeling many had when we didn't end up with Matic.
 
Age, check
Skillset, check
versatility, check
Position, check
Physicality, check
Wants to come, check
attainable, check
price, check

MUFC - do not want.

This fecking club drives me crazy sometimes.

You can be certain this guy will end up one of those "why the hell didn't we go for him two years ago" type of players.
yes reminds me of Kante last Summer - a no brainer transfer
 
The transfer makes so much sense that I've come to the conclusion the club actually know he's going nowhere or somewhere else and we are being used......
 
So PSG winked at the tweet saying announce Pepe and Fabinho, now Pepe has joined Besiktas.
 
So PSG winked at the tweet saying announce Pepe and Fabinho, now Pepe has joined Besiktas.
PSG probably had personal terms done, thats when they like to leak and start making noise, and then smugness took over with the tweet :lol:
 
Age, check
Skillset, check
versatility, check
Position, check
Physicality, check
Wants to come, check
attainable, check
price, check

MUFC - do not want.

This fecking club drives me crazy sometimes.

You can be certain this guy will end up one of those "why the hell didn't we go for him two years ago" type of players.

Or we could sign him and he'll be another Schneiderlin who all the fans thought was ideal but he turns out a bit rubbish. Jose has worked with this guy so if he doesn't fancy him then I trust him on this one.
 
Or we could sign him and he'll be another Schneiderlin who all the fans thought was ideal but he turns out a bit rubbish. Jose has worked with this guy so if he doesn't fancy him then I trust him on this one.

One thing I'm concerned about is the way he goes in for tackles, he is a bit slight and maybe this increases his chances of injuries and also yellow cards?
 
Or we could sign him and he'll be another Schneiderlin who all the fans thought was ideal but he turns out a bit rubbish. Jose has worked with this guy so if he doesn't fancy him then I trust him on this one.

Yeah, DM\Holding mid is a hard one to get right.

Schneiderlin was very good before he joined us and Kryschowiak the same before he joined PSG.

One bonus with Fabinho though is that if he isn't all that at DM which all evidence points towards him being, you actually have a very good RB as well, a position we'll need to reinforce soon as Valencia is getting on a bit.
 
People are saying "why aren't we interested", but we are. We've had 2 confirmed bids?

It's clear we DO want him, but perhaps not as strongly as we should be. For some reason there's something stopping/holding the deal up, whether we aren't paying enough or what I don't know.

Hopefully though we just stump up what's required and get him done.
 
People are saying "why aren't we interested", but we are. We've had 2 confirmed bids?

It's clear we DO want him, but perhaps not as strongly as we should be. For some reason there's something stopping/holding the deal up, whether we aren't paying enough or what I don't know.

Hopefully though we just stump up what's required and get him done.

I'd guess it's just that we are busy working on multiple deals so they're all slowed down waiting for the previous fax to go thru...
 
I'd guess it's just that we are busy working on multiple deals so they're all slowed down waiting for the previous fax to go thru...
I do wonder if we will suddenly see a few deals done the end of this week/weekend ready for the tour.
 
Yeah, DM\Holding mid is a hard one to get right.

Schneiderlin was very good before he joined us and Kryschowiak the same before he joined PSG.

One bonus with Fabinho though is that if he isn't all that at DM which all evidence points towards him being, you actually have a very good RB as well, a position we'll need to reinforce soon as Valencia is getting on a bit.

I reckon Schiederlin would have been great if he got regular game time alongisde Herrera. Instead we played Fellaini.
 
Yeah its like managers and coaches arent seeing the players in training everyday..what do they know?

He said on the 108th page of a thread dedicated to transfer speculation.

C'mon give it a rest. If we settled shit at "the manager's always right" the caf would be dead.
 
The manager isnt always right but Fellaini obviously did what Jose wanted him to do. Schneiderlin didnt.

Yeah, to be fair to you i've previously made the same point. We can only assume the Ent in our midfield is there on merit.
 
To be honest I've not seen this guy play but I've been caught up in the hype. He sounds like the exact kind of player we need the most. I need to be put out of my misery and see him in a PSG shirt asap.

Yeah, DM\Holding mid is a hard one to get right.

Schneiderlin was very good before he joined us and Kryschowiak the same before he joined PSG.
Schneiderlin wasn't a holding mid for Southampton. Perhaps being asked to play there for us is where things went wrong for him.
 
I reckon Schiederlin would have been great if he got regular game time alongisde Herrera. Instead we played Fellaini.


Schneiderlin wasn't a holding mid for Southampton. Perhaps being asked to play there for us is where things went wrong for him.

Hmmm, did Jose even try Schneiderlin with Herrera? Maybe the mismatch of Schneiderlin at DM was his downfall, but it makes you wonder if Herrera was tried at DM earlier, maybe Schneiderlin could've been saved.
 
Schneiderlin was the worst marker at setpieces I've ever seen at United. He was tossed on the rubbish heap because he wasn't (defensively) complete enough. For Mourinho, if you can't track your man and head the ball away, you're not good enough for his team. Shaw is pretty bad at it as well, fwiw.
 
Hmmm, did Jose even try Schneiderlin with Herrera? Maybe the mismatch of Schneiderlin at DM was his downfall, but it makes you wonder if Herrera was tried at DM earlier, maybe Schneiderlin could've been saved.
Well, the fact that he started alongside Herrera away at Feyenoord and Fenerbahçe, two losses, might have made an impression.
 
Dier is not realistic at all. Nothing is when you are Man Utd dealing with Levy

I think, as with all negotiations you have zero power if you don't have the ability to walk away.

What follows is all hypothetical horseshit but...

If Levy wanted £50m for Dier, and we wanted to pay £40m, the only way we can get that gap bridged is by saying "Last offer. We have Fabinho agreed in principle for £40m. We'd prefer Dier but won't pay a penny more"

I highly doubt we are leveraging the Monaco player to make Levy see sense, but it is possible to deal with the pug faced Bald twat. Going cap in hand will never work though.
 
Or we could sign him and he'll be another Schneiderlin who all the fans thought was ideal but he turns out a bit rubbish. Jose has worked with this guy so if he doesn't fancy him then I trust him on this one.

At least if it didn't work out for him in midfield we can use him as a right back since Valencia is not getting younger anymore. Schneiderlin is too limited and not versatile enough IMO.
 
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