We all know it happens though.
Fabinho
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Is it fake?
Nope... click the link.Is it fake?
Ah, then yeah it was that interview.
By all reports Chelsea wants Lukaku and Moratta won't be signing for Inter.
Just because player wants to leave doesn't mean he Should agree terms with multiple clubs.
Fabinho had the choice and he agreed,.
Re your other post
What do you expect him to do? Sit and wait for ManUtd who may or maynot match the asking price? Also for a ManUtd fan it should be obvious making bid doesn't mean player is 100% committed to sign, have we forgot all the transfers like Lucas, Hazard, Ramos, Muller, Bale?
No I'm not saying he should wait for United and that is exactly my point. The fact that PSG have bid says to me he has said yes to PSG and that ship has sailed.
What if Monaco don't want to sell the player to PSG?
We also made bids for so many players whom we didn't sign in the end.
Who says we have the same policy as PSG when making bids? It was reported in here that PSG only bid once they are sure the player has agreed with them. That is where I'm coming from with this. I never said this was United's policy when bidding for a player.
It's not the direct transcript who is somewhere on the forum but here you have something. http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...ho-latest-jose-mourinho-praises-a7806126.html
Any club will bid only when they get confirmation from player, doesn't mean player will 100% sign for them if he has multiple options.
Also is there anything to back up the point about PSG "Policy"?
PSG made bid for Balotelli but didn't end up signing him. Reportedly they also bid for Mbappe who wants only Madrid move (apparently).
Fair points. Whatever I'm going off came from this very thread. I'll have a look.
It might be someone's assumption. IMO no club will go through all the hassle of agreeing fee with other club if they don't agree general terms with players.
IMO we aren't in the driving seat as by all reports it's PSG who are aggressively pushing for the deal but them extending Motta's contract and going for Thiago Maia is a bit of hope for me.
The important point is that if Paris makes an offer, it is that there is agreement with the player already
Nothing to suggest he can't agree terms with PSG, and us. If the bid from PSG fails, we can step in.
I think he'll be a Utd player before we go on the tour, or it'll be looking very very likely.
The only bit of doubt I have is the truly bizarre PSG tweet from the other day, which made it seem like a done dealio.
I think he'll be a Utd player before we go on the tour, or it'll be looking very very likely.
The only bit of doubt I have is the truly bizarre PSG tweet from the other day, which made it seem like a done dealio.
That's just opinion of one person and also he says that is Henrique method (who was appointed just 1 month back), before that he worked at Porto. So there isn't a decent sample size at PSG to even validate that. For now it's just opinion of one person, which again is general principle for any club.
I don't understand your examples, PSG didn't made an offer for Mbappé, no one did. And from what I remember PSG hasn't made a bid for Balotelli since 2013 which was rejected by City.
Read the other day (can't remember where, could have been the MEN) that we're not in for Fabinho and never have been. Apparently, lots of clubs throw our name in the mix when they want to push up the price of a player or start a bidding war and that's been the case with him. Ed apparently did a private briefing to some select members of the press and there was bemusement in Manchester when Monaco's president came out and said United had made a bid.
Yeah I agree tbh. For some reason I read it, and got it stuck in my head that this was the case. You could say a seed grew into a fecking big tree inside my head.
It comes from Damien Degorre PSG's main beat reporter.
That tweet & smiley face was also in regards to Pepe and now that deal is far from done. So who knows.
Agreeing terms and signing a contract are two different things.. One is binding the other one isn´t.
Yeah thanks for that. For some reason I thought a verbal agreement would stand up in a court of law. not
Yeah thanks for that. For some reason I thought a verbal agreement would stand up in the court of law. not
Careful with that, it depends on the judge and the country.
Careful with that, it depends on the judge and the country.
Reports that they are ready to pay xyz amount, which means they have agreement with player?
They made bid for Balotelli, which means they had agreement with the player but ended up not signing him, which might happen again.
Yeah I agree tbh. For some reason I read it, and got it stuck in my head that this was the case. You could say a seed grew into a fecking big tree inside my head.
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No, it's just means that papers want to sell paper, they have spent the better part of June contradicting themselves.
@Summit Why shouldn't Fabinho agree a deal in principle with PSG? there a good club and will raise his money/trophy prospects higher than Monaco.
If we come in with a bid and he prefers to sign for us, HE WILL. Just because he may have agreed terms elsewhere means little. He might prefer us, but if we don't go in for him then he will be more than happy to go to PSG i'm sure.
Just sit back and see what happens.
If we come in with a bid and he prefers to sign for us, HE WILL. Just because he may have agreed terms elsewhere means little. He might prefer us, but if we don't go in for him then he will be more than happy to go to PSG i'm sure.
Just sit back and see what happens.
In that case, you can only take example of Balotelli. Again the initial point was not specific to PSG (that they make bid only when player agrees to join the team). It's the general rule for any big club.
Because, it will be near impossible to leave PSG for a bigger/better league? Personally, I wouldn't advise it to any young player who is already playing for a good team. They should stay at Monaco or aim higher than PSG.
But there is no Balotelli example since Raiola confirmed that his client was willing to join it's City that rejected the offer. Unless your point is simply that until a transfer is done anything is possible?
I agree, going to PSG puts you in a tricky spot as you're then likely stuck there as they'll never sell you unless you flop. The emergence of Monaco as a team that develops amazing young players and sells them on has been bad news for PSG, and Monaco shouldn't sell players to them under any circumstances, why should they?
Exactly. PSG making bid for Fabinho doesn't mean the deal is done. My initial point is "players can agree terms with multiple clubs" and "every club bids only when they get positive response from players".
The difference is that PSG makes bids when the contract is actually agreed not simply a positive response, that's what the original report meant. It was a way to explain why sometimes we hear about reports that PSG are advancing on a transfer without having made an offer. An other thing, the journalist wasn't particularly positive which was in my opinion interesting.
When I said positive response, I meant general terms. Like I said, no club will go through all the hassle of agreeing fee with the club if they don't agree terms with the player.
Those "announce X player" tweets are just the worst. Normally tone deaf when they are tweeted too, follow tweets about charity, disasters, terrorist activity, all sorts.
As for Fabinho, its a signing that makes so much sense its baffling it hasnt happened yet.
Since Leonardo the PSG M.O. for dealing with transfers has been to make sure the player wants to come then negociate verbally with the selling club and only put the final agreement on paper, then agree a contract with the player.
Assessments of Henrique's method in Paris are highly speculative. His history of negociating contracts with the player first may have more to do with Porto's limitations on the competitiveness of the wages they can offer than anything else.
My post has nothing to do with Henrique and Damien Degorre didn't mention Henrique but El Khelaifi. The tweet from Goal's journalist is in my opinion irrelevant and conveniently comes hours after a comment made on Lequipetv.
That's very weird from Degorre then as that contradicts with how most PSG deals were made in the past and with Henrique running the transfer business now.
I am under the impression that PSG are very quick between the accepted offer and the actual signing of the contract while they take a bit of time before the first bid. I could be wrong though.
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