That would be some good business I reckon. Especially if we get Fabinho early enough for him to fly out and join up with the rest of the squad in America.
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I meant more in the sense that the player reportedly wants to come, he fit's 2 positions we need reinforcements in and is clearly good enough. What's holding the deal up?
If Jose really doesn't fancy him then why have we bid?
Monaco made an offer for their own player?
Meant PSG clearly
Makes our 35+5m€ offer look stupid really.
Price vs. quantity extracted/time curve I should have said. 'Peak Oil' is a buzz term and doesn't quite mean the literal maximum amount of oil (as the name might suggest to some (others)). Likewise 'Peak Player' just means the peak in a player-related curve - in this case price. So to be clear what I meant to suggest was that Peak Player is a fun conceptual analogue to Peak Oil. It is not the same thing which is why I spoke about the shape of the curve and the fact that is it an 'inevitable impending' future event.
And being truly pedantic it's the slowing rate of extraction that brings about the oil 'peak' in Peak Oil so not the absolute amount or the impossibility of further/faster extraction. Peak Oil is not just dependent on the amount of oil but also on the cost of extraction of oil vs. the sale price of that oil.
And "bubbles bursting" suggests that there is a bubble (which has not yet been established as fair value is notoriously hard to establish in an illiquid and scarce market like footy players) and when a bubble bursts (rather than deflates) we would normally see a severe retrenchment of prices which is not what I was suggesting at all.
It was just a light-hearted play on concepts and wasn't really meant as much more than that. I will be more careful in the future.
Please dont, these little analogies liven the place up. But yes I misunderstood, I thought you were suggesting the price people were willing to pay had peaked and would start to fall back again.
I definitely think there is a bubble in football, though I wouldnt be able to back that up with anything, its just a sense that inflation in the transfer market is insane and must eventually prove unsustainable. But like any bubble, identifying it is the easy part, predicting when it will burst is mush harder. Rational investors can lose a lot of money refusing to participate in a bubble while everyone else gets rich.
One day I assume the TV channels will decide they have overpaid for the rights to games, that renewing on the same terms, let alone improved terms, no longer makes sense. That doesnt seem likely any time soon though.
Alright, haven't seen that. Doubt we would bid if the player doesn't want to come.
Seen on twitter that Motta has extended his contract with PSG?
Hopefully they've been told Fabinho wants to come here instead.
Hopefully they've been told Fabinho wants to come here instead.
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Great. Probably adding 2+2 to get 5 but fingers crossed.
But he does want to come here, said so himself and Monaco do not want to sell to a french team. Either Mbappe or Fabinho.
Its really a case of, IF we want him not us agreeing terms or a price because 45-50M would do it by what seems be knocking round.
Yeah you're right, I should have re-phrased it. Let's hope we do actually want him and PSG have been told that.
Why spend all this money on him when Ross Noble can do a job there for a snip?
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Something really doesn't ring true with anything surrounding this guy. Why would he agree terms with PSG if he has eyes on Man Utd?
His agent does it behind the scenes. He will have the deals lined up and Fabiano can just say "yes I want to sign for them".
His agent will know what terms United or PSG have offered and will make sure his client will get the best available. Just because the club have reached an agreement doesn't mean he will have to sign for him.
Something doesn't ring true with this whole transfer. Everyone seems to say he wants to join United, so he's linked with United or reported to be signing soon but then it seems Jose doesn't him?
Its all very odd from the outside.
I just can't believe that PSG would make that tweet without knowing they were going to get him. It would just be so stupid of them to inflate expectations only to disappoint their fans like that.
Why not? He can agree terms with any number of clubs he want, he can't bank of single club. What if they don't match the asking price?
yep, I do the same... Forever editing posts as im not writing what im actually asking
Because it can put another club off. Remember Nasiri and United? We agreed with him and he wanted to speak with City to see what they'd offer, so Fergie told him to feck off. If we are genuinely interested and have made that interest known to him, then why would he potentially feck up his move to United if he wanted it so much?
When a club bids for said player, you'd think it is a bit more than a maybe answer from the player they are bidding for wouldn't you?
So, agree with agent, bid for player and player says no? Nah.
Yep it really does seem very odd. For me this isn't happening. I have come to this conclusion without being ITK, but knowing that if it was happening it would already be done.
Players agree general terms with many clubs. IIRC Nasri's case was more like ManUtd didn't agree to pay the asking price or match the player wages.
Assume Fabino talks only to ManUtd, if ManUtd don't match the asking price then what's next for the player?
Have I missed something - What tweet?
Fulfill the contract he signed?
We have nothing to say he agreed terms only some suspect opinions
Assuming its the one i read... They only added a wink emoji. Its hardly a declaration of intent and they seem to be interested in him but Monaco wont do a deal with them. So maybe they overplayed their hand too early.
PSG might be just messaging Fabinhos team indirectly for a few different reasons. Other actual targets or trying to force Fabinho to force the issue.
Because he hasn't said that he wanted to join United in particular. When specifically asked about United, he said that it would be nice but remember that he also said he had a soft spot for City, that he would like to play with Messi and other things like that. People just have very selective memories.
Also reports saying PSG don't bid for a player unless they have agreed with player. Again though, it is just hearsay, but we do know that PSG bid for player.
Exactly that's the reason player don't agree with single club when their stock is high. It would be madness for player.
It's simple, agree general terms with ManUtd and PSG, whoever agrees terms with Monaco, player will move to that team. If both team matches the asking price then he will have a bargaining tool for better contract from buying club.
Maybe not in that interview, but didn't he once say that he would love to play for a club like Man Utd one day, but wasn't sure if he'd get his chance?
He also said in a stand alone comment to play under Jose would be a "dream" or "unbelievable" or something else very positive i dont remember exactly
Ok with that in mind, who has it been reported that Moratta has agreed with?
Yep PSG bid and Monaco said never to a rival.
He mentioned City in that interview too.
He was asked about Mourinho and it was after Fabinho mentioned Guardiola for example.
Yes, they bid. So what does that tell us when reading between the lines? Fabinho has said yes to them, otherwise they wouldn't bid.
Why should Moratta agree terms with any other club if they are not interested?
For Fabinho there are multiple clubs that are reported, for Moratta only Manutd is reported.
Then you need to post that article as its not the one i read. Mine was all man united, prob just an edit of yours by the sounds of it.
Someone tweeted the official PSG twitter account saying "announce Pepe and Fabinho" and they replied with like a smiley/smirky face. I just don't think they'd get people's hopes up for no reason but maybe I'm thinking too much of it.
They not allowed to agree terms. Same league. Against the rules
It is reported that Chelsea, and Inter (maybe AC Milan, can't remember) were interested.
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