This went on with him last summer as well as the previous one if I remember correctly.
I get the feeling we're not in for him or he is certainly not first choice
I get the feeling we're not in for him or he is certainly not first choice
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Were I to put my house on United winning the league next year, and I won, I'd probably still end up owing the bookies money such is the state it's in right now. "my front garden looks like a building site" said the missus
Oh dear. Any players you would like to see us sign and how many?
Bouhafsi confirming we were in negotiations meant something, but it's all gone quite after he tweeted about it.
I'm just surprised we seemed to have paused this transfer whilst matic seems even harder to buy
See this is what a more believable offer looks like. Not our apparent €45 mill bid that never gets spoke of again.
Bouhafsi confirming we were in negotiations meant something, but it's all gone quite after he tweeted about it.
I'm just surprised we seemed to have paused this transfer whilst matic seems even harder to buy
Perhaps we made a "take it or leave it" offer to the club (or player).
I think we have refused to pay what they are asking for him. 50 million euros is a huge investment and maybe money is the problem. The only explanation seems to be this.Bouhafsi confirming we were in negotiations meant something, but it's all gone quite after he tweeted about it.
I'm just surprised we seemed to have paused this transfer whilst matic seems even harder to buy
Monaco wont sell to PSG unless an outrageous offer is recieved having already rejected 45+ million euros for him. It all seems very complicated.
Bouhafsi confirming we were in negotiations meant something, but it's all gone quite after he tweeted about it.
I'm just surprised we seemed to have paused this transfer whilst matic seems even harder to buy
Maybe we realised that the only way we can get Matic and Fabinho is if Chelsea sign Bakayoko.
So we are waiting for that deal to be done first...
Honestly, I don't know. Happy to leave all that to Jose, he knows better than anyone which areas needed strengthening,
I do like Belloti, though. More for the fact that he'd be a good fit in a Jose system, strong, quickish, good with his back to goal and fairly composed. Got a soft spot for Kane, of course prising him away from Spurs considering the circumstances would be difficult. Moratta is more than viable alternative though.
A good solid DM who knows his role inside out, allowing Herrera to run box-to-box which imo he is perfectly suited to, plus giving Pogba the freedom he sorely needs to create. Don't know a great deal about Fabinho but according to this thread he is the business. Matic is as solid as it gets in the DM position, we could do far worse than acquiring his services for a year or so. He'd work his ass off for Jose which is a huge plus.
Happy with the defense overal. If Shaw pushes on next season, and I get the feeling he will based on nothing but an assumption, I feel we will have the best back 5 in the league.
I think we need more depth in midfield in general, against smaller teams we can play Keita and Herrera, Herrera being the deeper of the 2. Right now as backups even if we do get a CDM, we have Fellaini, Carrick and Pereira. TFM probably won't get much game time. Need a CDM and another box to box midfielder to rival Herrera which would be where Keita fits.
sounds like something out of a £3 motivational book. Any competitive organisation has to and will assess the competition
My thoughts precisely
My original point was why do we care so much about others?
There's a different between assessing the competition and fawning over others transfer strategies.
There is a difference between fawning and realizing that we needed to improve even if the competitors didn't. When our competitors improve a lot, we have a longer road to catch up on.
Do note, I'm satisfied if Jose is and won't be "judging" until we've seen results or lack thereof. I just understand why people would worry when they see our oppos sign or get what seems like reliable links to highly rated players and talents and we frustratingly seem to sitt still, get highly unlikely links like Ronaldo or unknown ones (for many) like Perisic.
Funny that we only compare to clubs doing great business (City? Because they signed 2 players to our 1?) But Tottenham fans, Chelsea fans, Arsenal fans are all frustrated. So are some Liverpool I know because of the VVD Saga.
Imo Everton have gone about their business well, but only because they know Lukaku is gone soon. Let's wait tole September and see how we've done.
We're comparing to those that improve because the have done business. Of course we want to be the best, that means looking to those that have done something.
Honestly couldn't care less, if Mourinho think we're in a good place when the season starts & we do well this season, what we buy this summer doesn't matter as much for me, but people aren't crazy for comparing us to cubs that are doing well. We want to do better after all.
While we're linked to Perisic, City are linked to Dembele, of course people will react.
And when Chelsea signed She and Ballack and we got Carrick, everyone panicked.
I'm the same as you, if Jose is happy with what we get, I'm happy.
We got the younger player. Interesting.
People panicked, and settled. Doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to panic at a later time.
People were also defending Moyes & Van Gaal. You can't attribute "people did" to new people. They might not be the same, and even then they can see two situations differently.
Being linked to a player doesn't matter. What matters is if this player joined them or not. We get linked to Ronaldo but it doesn't mean he'll come.
If he was happy with it he wouldn't have given Woodward a list of targets.
Difference in credibility. We get linked to Ronaldo every year, him coming is such low chances. Dembele reportedly by journos and Dortmund fans had dinner with Pep & is unhappy with Dortmund for sacking Tuchel.
Ronaldo feeling they aren't glorifying him enough isn't a new thing, and it usually ends in a new contract with better wages.
Credibility ? The only link City got to Dembele was an obvious BS saying Pep met him in Manchester while Pep wasn't in Manchester at this time.
Disgraceful if we aren't in for him. What are the club playing at.
Cool if that's the truth, but that's not how I've (and others, clearly) seen the situation.
To be fair they know the team, our situation and the situation of the transfer market miles better than we do.
Is why I said with what we get. Not what we have.
Come on. Do you really feel some of the reactions are justified? People are going way overboard with their reactions, saying next season is basically done already.
All I'm saying is wait until September. Let's see what we do.
Those saying the season is done are way past it, I agree on that. I'm just saying that the general "they don't share my view, so must be off the tracks" thing is wrong in my opinion.
When people worry & express their worries I think we're better off taking that discussion with them every single time instead. Whether that is to calm them down or to in the end agree with them that the club isn't performing in the recruitment department or could improve significantly, it's a better thing for having interesting conversations than to just write off their worries.
If someone tell me they worry we haven't signed any attacker yet to improve our goalscoring and that pre season soon starts, I can reply with that panicking before pre season starts isn't worth it because we have earlier signed someone on the day of going on tour, and taken them with us. And that even if we do struggle to improve our attackers on paper before then, a better team play from other more settled players and a better midfield and defense to build attacks upon can end in a lot more goals, or that we already created tons last year but we're struggling to put the chances and that Liverpool had a similar situation with Suarez hitting the woodwork a ton the season before he went on to rock the league for them.
We ultimately agree on our stance (it seems), just not om viewing people with differing views as in the wrong for holding their worries.
We do agree I feel.
And I'm not here to disregard anyone's opinions because I disagree with them. But if they can post with (exaggered, in my view) posts saying doom is impending, I think they need to realise that things aren't as bad as they may seem. We've got a long way to go and there's time yet.
Ive replied to people saying why can't we be more like Chelsea. The club who haven't signed anyone and there are reports the manager isn't happy and may leave. That's my gripe.
Fully understand. I'll leave this thread be for now, considering my painkillers are starting making me be weird.
For some on-topic: I want a DM, whether it be Matic, Fabinho or some other player Jose feels is good I'll be happy either way.
Same here, a DM is critical (matic, fabhino or anyone else). We are more or less sorted in defence and even a half decent DM will help significantly boost the goal scoring contribution from Herrera and pogba.
So perhaps Jose is looking at someone is more capable in the domain of positional discipline, composure and experience rather than dynamism in midfield.
So perhaps Jose is looking at someone is more capable in the domain of positional discipline, composure and experience rather than dynamism in midfield.
L'Equipe has some story running about this in Sunday's paper. They confirm that PSG's 45M€ bid has not even been considered by Monaco, L'Equipe thinks that around 60M€ included it could be accepted and they write that Man City, Juve and Atletico have shown some interest.
Fabinho is apparently one of the top priorities of Emery for the midfield. Henrique was a little more reluctant but has been convinced too, him and PSG's president have opened negociations with Jorge Mendes who was previously Emery's agent. Mendes managed to bring Guedes to PSG last winter for 30M€ and, apparently, he now wants to bring both Pepe and Fabinho this summer, having already Thiago Silva, Guedes and Di Maria there.
Fabinho is apparently one of the top priorities of Emery for the midfield. Henrique was a little more reluctant but has been convinced too, him and PSG's president have opened negociations with Jorge Mendes who was previously Emery's agent. Mendes managed to bring Guedes to PSG last winter for 30M€ and, apparently, he now wants to bring both Pepe and Fabinho this summer, having already Thiago Silva, Guedes and Di Maria there.
I don't know an awful lot about this fella, so please interject, but is he not more of a box to box midfielder rather than an out and out holding player? His goal return seems to indicate that he likes to get forward a lot.
If this is the case, surely it is Herrera's position and not Carrick's he'd take in a midfield 3?
If this is the case, surely it is Herrera's position and not Carrick's he'd take in a midfield 3?
All his goals are from penalties.
That makes more sense, seemed a lot of goals for a defensive midfielder. Thanks mate.
He was still not an holding midfielder. But he has done it in the past and been very good.
Looks like "Peak Player" is here.. finally..
You and others believe Pep was in Manchester when he actually wasn't?
I've merely read the rumors and seen it reported many times by what seemed to be not the worst sources (not necessarily good ones). I found the Dortmund fans on here's comments on it not being unlikely as my pointer rather than a news article.
Can't comment for others, but to me the overall perspective was that it seemed plausible.
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