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Maybe Mourinho trusts in Tuanzabe or TFM to be ready to take on the role in a couple of years once Matic starts winding down?
May be, Or may be its the case of us getting outbid?
Outbid for who?
But also i dont think Tuanzebe and TFM dont have the passing range and passing vision required on the ball for a DLP Or CDM role as of now.
You don't really need to have that expansive passing range for a CDM. Both of them are still raw for that role as of now but I think both has the potential to be developed for that position. Of course I still prefer Tuanzebe at CB.
I cant post tweets. Di marzio replied to someone about Fabinho to PSG links(taken from Reddit)
Di Marzio: I dont know, only knew united Made a bid. If real, Psg offered more
Di Marzio: I dont know, only knew united Made a bid. If real, Psg offered more
Yeah that's true, 'as of now,' which is the key point. Magic coming in would give either of them time to develop into the role.
Obviously it's not a sure thing, and mourinho might not even be thinking that way, however it's definitely possible that he believes they could develop that way.
Well that depends on every individuals perception of how they like their team to play football in my veiw, We dont have the midfeild quality of Scholes Younger Carrick and Ryan giggs anymorewho's incredible passing range and vision made our attacking transitions quick as lightning with the pace of ronaldo and rooney making top class attacking runs in space and stretching the play, And This what the fans find attractive in a team and how we would like Our team to play now is to play more Proactive Posession Football with some counter attacking Dynamics having seen other top class philosophies with top class managers in our title rivals and derby rivals teams have, and the style of football we play when you are playing against them and including top class teams in european competition. It does not mean that you play the same reactive Counter attacking football like before. A Midfeilder Like fabinho with his high energy and Mobility Will give the the edge to fight toe to toe and even dominate our direct rivals in terms of Possession based attacking dynamics having giving the idea of playing to attack and playing to win rather than to sit back and wait for an oportunity to counter by absorbing the pressure for which we dont exactly have the effecient players to be that much effective on counter in top games against top defenses.
Since Pep guardiola's barcelona beat united in two finals and were so called one of the best teams in world football ever seen, tactics have become a relevant part of football among the fans and the tactical awareness among the fan base has grown having seen top class managers play different style of football, Including managers like lvg play his type of football in the club so they also judge a team tactically, as mourinho mentioned before in his words about "Einstein's of football".
This Era of EPL is one of the hardest ever level of football ever played in this league with world class philosophies in our top 5 rival teams. The Challenge even is Higher than During fergie era ever had. A More Mobile high energy attacking player is a better fit for the Proactive High press we need to apply in the midfeild to counter the top teams in epl rather than a DLP or a cdm who sits back and controls the play from the deep but has lost the legs to press high with energy as pogba is not the most quick player defensively and looses the first and second balls often.
Proactive Possession based attacking football in our hardcore rival teams With high energy, mobility, and tactical awareness and great balance the challenge is very very high to dominate those teams and their midfeilds which We dint do last season against any top 5 side when facing them directly which United fans would like to see.
Also in addition to that fabinho is a penalty specialist which we are loosing with rooney and ibra leaving or on the bench and he is also a versatile player who can play as a full back and wingback. The Pros Of having a player like fabinho out weights the pros of having any other target in midfeild with DLP or positional stability but with less energy and mobility who makes the midfeild more reactive and slower in attacking transition while also vunrable to posession losses in a high press just like carrick against liverpool in second meeting.
His greatest quality is his ability to make the transition. He allows his team to quickly project forward. It's extremely rare in any of other targets.
Well its not about history its about the traditions of playing high energy attacking football against all oppositions which make United what it is.
If You ask the perception of barcelona fans about their teams ideal midfeild signing which would improve them and make them world class again, 95% of the fans perception will be of Marco Veratti Who adds that necessary balance their philosophy need and every one would agree on that perception. Its just about what fits best in the balance and make a team play better and more pleasing to the fans.
No two players are totally the same , what is common is the attributes which would propel the team to play a certain brand of football which in this case is with pro activity in the midfeild for which fabinho suits the best among current sets of targets united are linked with.
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You must be devastated at how Everton are doing their business then.
It always amazes me that we worry so much about other clubs. Yes our window hasn't gone great so far, but there's a while to go yet. Obviously ideally we'd prefer it done before the tour, and it might still be, but just relax.
We've done more then Chelsea, Arsenal and Tottenham so far.
Also it has to be said that new signings do not guarantee success albeit the following the transfer stories is one of the more exciting aspects of following a club.
There are countless examples at our club (Jordi Cruyff, Poborsky, Di Maria, Depay,Veron, Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger,) who have added little or nothing to the team despite overwhelming optimism on here and elsewhere amongst fans.
A signing for its own sake may give a warm fuzzy feeling that as a club we are not falling behind our rivals or by some measure are "progressing" but in reality means nothing and especially at our club few can handle the pressure of playing for us and performing week in week out.
Fabinho, Morata or anyone else we have been linked with guarantee us nothing. Exciting though it is I am fairly sanguine about the whole thing. Jose will improve us this season I've no doubt.
There are countless examples at our club (Jordi Cruyff, Poborsky, Di Maria, Depay,Veron, Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger,) who have added little or nothing to the team despite overwhelming optimism on here and elsewhere amongst fans.
A signing for its own sake may give a warm fuzzy feeling that as a club we are not falling behind our rivals or by some measure are "progressing" but in reality means nothing and especially at our club few can handle the pressure of playing for us and performing week in week out.
Fabinho, Morata or anyone else we have been linked with guarantee us nothing. Exciting though it is I am fairly sanguine about the whole thing. Jose will improve us this season I've no doubt.
Chelsea and Spurs placed above us and we have clear as day problems in terms of putting the ball the back of the net. Thats why everyone is anxious because its almost like the PL season will be decided by the transfer window.
Ask their fans and see if they're happy with their windows so far. Standing still is moving backwards.
You have to keep signing players until you find the ones that will work for the club. Not all will you just sell the players who don't work out.
If the league started today they'll most likely finish above us. We lost our top scorer who even when he was playing we still lacked goals to finish off teams. We're the ones that have to make up ground and thats why our fans are anxious.
Agreed to a point but by and large the majority of the best players who have played for our club we developed ourselves.
It wasn't just under Moyes, but also under LVG that Valencia looked like a shadow of his former self. He lost quite a bit of pace since his leg break and it meant that full backs could easily deal with his one real trick (kick it out wide and accelerate away from the defender). As a winger he was expected to consistently beat his man, which he was no longer capable of doing, but as a full back he only sparingly needed to do that and his role was more to provide support for the winger by providing overlapping runs (which he could consistently do). In other words, Valencia is a very good attacking right back, but not a very good attacking winger anymore.
I understand the anxiety. I don't understand constantly looking at other clubs and their transfers. Just focus on ourselves.
Thankfully it doesn't start for another 6 weeks.
There is absolutely no doubt that we will improve our squad dramatically before then.
Good summary of the situation.
Hopefully it won't be relevant by the end of the window.
we don't exist in a vacuum though
It was quite difficult to read all of that but this is a particularly salient point. If you really think that a defensive midfielder that facilitates counter-attacking football is extremely rare then you've completely lost sight of reality. Herrera is one of those players. Up until last season he wasn't even a defensive midfielder. The reality is it's not a difficult role to fill and the qualities that Fabinho possesses are not remotely unique. If we can't agree on that then the discussion is only going to go in circles.
I don't understand why we won't go for him. Surely Monaco would rather sell him to us if we can match any offer PSG puts forward.
I'm sure Monaco would prefer to sell him to literally anyone but PSG, but Jose is clearly not interested in him.
Winners focus on winning. Losers focus on winners. It's a mentality.
Its hard because we are the ones who want to finally turn things around and win the league again.
Dramatically improve our squad? You're way more confident than I am and many other fans are. Good on you though.
Hopefully!
Of course we will improve our squad, there is absolutely no feasible reasoning that would convince otherwise. United are in a constant state of flux, ever changing, ever progressing. Always looking to the future. Come the end of August our squad will be strong in enough to challenge for the league title. I'd put my house on it I'm that confident.
It comes from a Nice Matin article http://www.nicematin.com/football/monaco-refuse-45-millions-deuros-pour-fabinho-150780
Apparently, Monaco would like not to sell to Paris. A bigger offer could change their mind but it might the moment to step forward for Manchester.
Are Nice Matin reliable?
There are moments when a transfer just makes too much sense for it to happen. This is one of those moments.
Makes a lot of sense for the noisy neighbours as well
Well, they are a very old local newspaper and they have local journalists working all year mostly on Nice and Monaco regarding football. They are not really falling into the paparazzi or bullshit type of news usually. At least they must be able to get a sense of what's trending inside. Monaco are losing many players so it's clear that it would make more sense for them to sell abroad rather than to PSG.
L'Equipe is confirming the story with more news to come in tomorrow's paper https://abonnes.lequipe.fr/Football...5-millions-d-euros-pour-fabinho-monaco/815011
I have a feeling his wage demands are the issue. We had a €50m bid accepted a while back and yet didn't sign him. We have probably decided the Matic deal makes more sense in terms of total expenditure and we will be signing an important player from a rival.
For PSG, that bit extra makes sense because it's them that is buyijg from a direct rival.
Monaco have refused € 45m from @PSG_inside for Fabinho ➡ bit.ly/2u9XP1d #rmcliveNow you've gone and done it
Or do you live in a shite hole and don't care?
Were I to put my house on United winning the league next year, and I won, I'd probably still end up owing the bookies money such is the state it's in right now. "my front garden looks like a building site" said the missus
Can't help but feel we'd have signed him by now if we were really serious about him.
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