Fabinho | OFFICIAL: Liverpool agree deal to sign Fabinho

[Andersons Dietician]

I’ve always thought Fabinho was better at RB than he was in CM/DM. It’s where I first noticed him and he was good. If we were to buy him i’d hope that is where we would play him. It’s just a bonus he can play in midfield as well. Valencia and Fosu play as back ups eventually Fosu taking over from Valencia’s role.

I suppose a benefit of Sidibe would be he can play at LB as well.

 

[JPRouve]

I’ve always thought Fabinho was better at RB than he was in CM/DM. It’s where I first noticed him and he was good. If we were to buy him i’d hope that is where we would play him. It’s just a bonus he can play in midfield as well. Valencia and Fosu play as back ups eventually Fosu taking over from Valencia’s role.

I suppose a benefit of Sidibe would be he can play at LB as well.

Agreed, I remember a conversation when I said that for me Fabinho as a CM is one of many, he is good but you can find better players with something special. But as a right back, he is the one with something special because unlike most fullbacks he is a complete footballer, he isn't a failed winger or CB.

 

[Silas]

For me Fabinho was better then Sidibé is now but it has little relevance because I don't know how Fabinho is now.

Sounds good to me. Do you know which position Fabinho prefers? I remember there being some talk about how he wanted to return to the RB position while we were rumoured to want him for midfield last summer.

 

[VancouverUtdFan]

Having just extra player who end up with limited game time can do damage to squad morale especially for us where media love a story would turn player X vs player Y.


It's still different. Let's make an example: Someone like Kyle Walker played for Tottenham and they don't need a right winger, letting Eriksen to roam centrally most of the time. He moved to City, they have Sterling combining with him more on the wing, it's bonus. Sterling out, and City has players who played more narrow, fine with Walker as best asset is his physicality which enables him to own whole flank. Walker cost 50mil. Now if we sign Fabinho 40-50mil. As I said, he would need more help to secure the right wing. So we need to buy that players which mean it would cost us more as it's a must. With RB with Walker's profile if it doesn't work out for the right wing attacker transfer, we can still revise a different plan such as diamond midfield. Also it would let the right side attacker more freedom

True as well, get where you’re coming from.

However worst case scenario let’s say we get Fabinho but not a RW, at least our RB swill be able to deliver quality balls to the attacking players. Sure the linkup with a RWer would be ideal but if you can’t get it, at least we have a RB capable of whipping in balls that aren’t useless and being able to make advanced passes to open attackers. That in itself is better than what we currently have with our fullbacks being non factors offensively.

But yea I think we’re agreeing on similarly different things. It’s a 2 part process needing an RB + RW. If we can’t get both, don’t see why we wouldn’t get the other at the least. Gotta start somewhere and work with what you got

 

[Andersons Dietician]

Agreed, I remember a conversation when I said that for me Fabinho as a CM is one of many, he is good but you can find better players with something special. But as a right back, he is the one with something special because unlike most fullbacks he is a complete footballer, he isn't a failed winger or CB.

Yes, i’m sure he has even said his preferred position is RB and he doesn’t even like being in midfield. I think it was last year we spoke about this in a debate over Matic and Fabinho.
You’re right tho, he stands out at RB, he looks special. His partnership with Bakayoko was pretty good but it was just sort of a good player and for where we want to be we kind of need special.

 

[ti vu]

True as well, get where you’re coming from.

However worst case scenario let’s say we get Fabinho but not a RW, at least our RB swill be able to deliver quality balls to the attacking players. Sure the linkup with a RWer would be ideal but if you can’t get it, at least we have a RB capable of whipping in balls that aren’t useless and being able to make advanced passes to open attackers. That in itself is better than what we currently have with our fullbacks being non factors offensively.

But yea I think we’re agreeing on similarly different things. It’s a 2 part process needing an RB + RW. If we can’t get both, don’t see why we wouldn’t get the other at the least. Gotta start somewhere and work with what you got

I rate Fabinho's ability to get the service to our shooters at the top of all RB we have been linked with. The main issue as I stated is the ability to work the ball up the pitch if we can't get that wide attacker. Fabinho can dribble, carry the ball up the pitch on his own to good level, but IMO he's behind someone like Walker (should be our profile for RB) in physicality aspect to brute force his way if there is no option to combine. We're not the team to build slow and rely too much on technically so the quicker we can get the ball out and relieve our defensive line from the duty of ball playing the better.

 

[Igor Drefljak]

I think Fabinho would be a good bit of business.
I think we need a RB, and can anybody name a top RB that is avaliable. The RB quality seems to be lacking these days.

What we do know is, Fabinho was a very good RB, turned very good DM.
If we can get him to to perform to the standard he did at RB, win
If not, he's a natural successor to Matic, being able to cover both DM and RB

Fred - Matic - Pogba
Herrera - Fabinho - McTominay​

Gives great depth and with we could easily go 4231 with them players

 

[Frank Grimes]

This is a red herring if ever I did see one, we have 2 defensive minded midfielders now with Fred and Matic why would we buy another, he hasn't played as a full back in yonks either.

 

[Irish Jet]

This is a red herring if ever I did see one, we have 2 defensive minded midfielders now with Fred and Matic why would we buy another, he hasn't played as a full back in yonks either.

Neither him or Fred are defensive midfielders, they can play there but are at their best with more freedom. They’re more ball playing destroyer types.

 

[Frank Grimes]

Neither him or Fred are defensive midfielders, they can play there but are at their best with more freedom. They’re more ball playing destroyer types.

Either way him and Fred are pretty similar stylistically and if, as is being touted, we get Fred then spending another 50m on Fabinho doesn't seem realistic or smart.

 

[roonster09]

Agreed, I remember a conversation when I said that for me Fabinho as a CM is one of many, he is good but you can find better players with something special. But as a right back, he is the one with something special because unlike most fullbacks he is a complete footballer, he isn't a failed winger or CB.

Didn't he also say that he likes to play as fullback? Remember reading that.

 

[BBRBB]

Didn't he also say that he likes to play as fullback? Remember reading that.

If I remember correctly it was some time ago and the reason was he thought he had better chances of being called for the Brazil NT as a fullback.

 

[Neil67]

Looks like we have already signed him!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabinho_(footballer,_born_1993)

 

[JPRouve]

Didn't he also say that he likes to play as fullback? Remember reading that.

He did but it was more than two years ago, he said that he prefers to play there and he thinks that he has more chance to play for Brazil there but if he is selected as a CM he won't complain.

 

[roonster09]

If I remember correctly it was some time ago and the reason was he thought he had better chances of being called for the Brazil NT as a fullback.

He did but it was more than two years ago, he said that he prefers to play there and he thinks that he has more chance to play for Brazil there but if he is selected as a CM he won't complain.

Thanks.

 

[Sanche7]

Looks like we have already signed him!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabinho_(footballer,_born_1993)

Reliable?
Has to be, wiki never lies!

 

[Nate Dogg]

How much are Monaco valuing him at?

I guess A Madrid's bid will be smaller than ours!

 

[golden_blunder]

Either way him and Fred are pretty similar stylistically and if, as is being touted, we get Fred then spending another 50m on Fabinho doesn't seem realistic or smart.

I don’t think that they are the same at all. Fred is quick, and generally uses the ball very well and quickly too. Tackling he can do but it’s not his main strength. I’d consider him an upgrade on Herrera if we sign him. A good option for b2b

Fabinho is more of a destroyer who snaps into tackles mostly in his own zone. A proper DM who can also play RB, it would be a clever signing as he can play fullback until matic needs a rest.

 

[JPRouve]

I don’t think that they are the same at all. Fred is quick, and generally uses the ball very well and quickly too. Tackling he can do but it’s not his main strength. I’d consider him an upgrade on Herrera if we sign him. A good option for b2b

Fabinho is more of a destroyer who snaps into tackles mostly in his own zone. A proper DM who can also play RB, it would be a clever signing as he can play fullback until matic needs a rest.

He isn't a proper DM and he doesn't stay in his own zone, for Monaco he is a defensive box to box. He plays from one box to the other but because he has a better defensive and positional awareness he is generally the first transitioning to defense.

 

[Bestietom]

Fabinho would be an intellegent buy. He can play RB or Midfield.

Sidibe can play RB or LB. Any of these two would be great additions.

 

[golden_blunder]

He isn't a proper DM and he doesn't stay in his own zone, for Monaco he is a defensive box to box. He plays from one box to the other but because he has a better defensive and positional awareness he is generally the first transitioning to defense.

From what I’ve seen though his game is more about tackling than Fred’s is. I think Fred is more offensive than Fab. IF matic were to get injured then I’d choose Fabinho over Fred to cover that role. Probably because he is a bit more astute defensively.

Hence why I say I don’t think they are the same ‘stylistically’ as another poster said

 

[JPRouve]

From what I’ve seen though his game is more about tackling than Fred’s is. I think Fred is more offensive than Fab. IF matic were to get injured then I’d choose Fabinho over Fred to cover that role. Probably because he is a bit more astute defensively.

Hence why I say I don’t think they are the same ‘stylistically’ as another poster said

On that point, you are right they are not the same. I would say that Fred is more offensive, he has turned into a game manager more than Fabinho who is more "all-action".

 

[devilish]

On that point, you are right they are not the same. I would say that Fred is more offensive, he has turned into a game manager more than Fabinho who is more "all-action".

What's the news from France on this matter? I mean the reliable sources not some crappy 3rd rated sites

Thanks

 

[ROFLUTION]

Let's just take both Sidibe and Fabinho off Monaco's hands - that would solve a lot of things. Not sure I trust Fred enough.

 

[Sanche7]

What's the news from France on this matter? I mean the reliable sources not some crappy 3rd rated sites

Thanks

Wasn't it RMC who said we were interested in Sidibe and Fabinho?
They are very reliable IIRC

 

[JPRouve]

What's the news from France on this matter? I mean the reliable sources not some crappy 3rd rated sites

Thanks

The only information allegedly comes from Vasilyev himself, through Bouhafsi who interviewed him this week, Atletico have opened talks and Fabinho will be let go if the offer is good and if he wants to leave. The link with United also comes from Bouhafsi but he says that there is no contact between United and Monaco on that subject, just with his agent. As an aside, Vasilyev said that while he heard about clubs being interested in Sidibé, no one contacted the club and probably nothing will happen during the World Cup.

 

[devilish]

Wasn't it RMC who said we were interested in Sidibe and Fabinho?
They are very reliable IIRC

The only information allegedly comes from Vasilyev himself, through Bouhafsi who interviewed him this week, Atletico have opened talks and Fabinho will be let go if the offer is good and if he wants to leave. The link with United also comes from Bouhafsi but he says that there is no contact between United and Monaco on that subject, just with his agent. As an aside, Vasilyev said that while he heard about clubs being interested in Sidibé, no one contacted the club and probably nothing will happen during the World Cup.

Thanks to both

Honestly I think we need them both. Sidibe would slot great on the right wingback role. Fabinho will provide cover/competition for Matic. A 3 men CM made up of Matic, Fred and Pogba will be the first team with Fabinho, Herrera and Mctominay acting as cover/competition.

 

[SambaBoy]

We seem to be signing Fabinho for the fact that he can play two positions rather than one position to high level/top class quality. From what I've seen, he's a good RB and probably would be worth signing but I think we can do better further down the line as for me he's not a massive upgrade on Valencia. Most of the complaints regarding Valencia has been his quality going forward while I don't think Fabinho is a massive upgrade in this aspect.

As a DM he's good player too but not WC or anywhere near it. He would shield the back four quite well and his distribution is decent enough but if we are too buy him to be a starting DM I would be worried, there are definitely better options out there.

 

[Irish Jet]

le10sport saying he’s off to Atletico for €35m

 

[Seven Seas Sardines]

We seem to be signing Fabinho for the fact that he can play two positions rather than one position to high level/top class quality. From what I've seen, he's a good RB and probably would be worth signing but I think we can do better further down the line as for me he's not a massive upgrade on Valencia. Most of the complaints regarding Valencia has been his quality going forward while I don't think Fabinho is a massive upgrade in this aspect.

As a DM he's good player too but not WC or anywhere near it. He would shield the back four quite well and his distribution is decent enough but if we are too buy him to be a starting DM I would be worried, there are definitely better options out there.

People are forgetting he's still only 24. Loads of years ahead of him to perfect and nail down the Matic(29) or Valencia(32) role.

 

[Zoo]

He is in Madrid right now.

 

[Diabhal]

Fabiano has played 39 games as a DM/CM for Monaco this season. He seems to have fully converted to a DM/MC over the last two seasons.

2017/18 season, he played 0 games as a DR
2016/17 season, he played 6 games as a DR
2015/16 season, he played 22 games as a DR
2014/15 season, he played 27 games as a DR
(Stats from who scored)

Anyway, I'd prefer a dedicated right back to compete with Valencia. We have too many bit-part players who can play in multiple positions. The squad needs to be cleaned up a little and have more specialists in dedicated roles.

 

[Long Ball]

If there is any interest on our part, it's as this much vaunted "smokescreen" some think Fred is. Fabinho is Fred's smokescreen

He's deffo off to atletico

 

[Zoo]

Info @rmcsport: Offer 50m € bonus included from @lfc for the middle of the @AS_Monaco Fabinho! Negotiations between the two clubs. The player is interested in the idea of joining the Premier League.

 

[dannyrhinos89]

Can’t be true.

I’ll be seriously annoyed if true

 

[Coxy]

Would be gutted if they get him - would love him here

 

[Damien]

From rumours looks like Liverpool are trying to lineup like this next season:

Alisson

Alexander-Arnold Lovren van Dijk Robertson
Fabinho Keita
Salah Fekir Mane
Firmino​

Don't know if they've been linked with any defenders but those three (four with Keita who they've already signed) names alone would upgrade their side massively.

 

[VanGaalEra]

From rumours looks like Liverpool are trying to lineup like this next season:

Alisson

Alexander-Arnold Lovren van Dijk Robertson
Fabinho Keita
Salah Fekir Mane
Firmino​

Don't know if they've been linked with any defenders but those three (four with Keita who they've already signed) names alone would upgrade their side massively.

That’s 200M (70 Alison, 60 Fabinho and 70 Fekir). Add in the close to 60M they’re paying for Keita and I’d say they haven’t really got that much money.

 

[VP89]

Ah ffs

 

[Frank Grimes]

We were never getting Fabinho, Mourinho is more than happy with Matic.

Matic
Fred Pogba will be our midfield next season. Or SMS if Pogba is on his way. Would be a great signing for Liverpool though tbf.