F1 2024 Season

That's a pitiful penalty.

On a sidenote, Verstappen had a pop at Perez after the GP. Now Helmet Marko has as well. More indirectly. Seems that Perez was renewed because of RedBull internal politics by Horner. Marko wanted him replaced with Norris or Piastri.

Where did you see this? Not denying it happened, I'm just intrigued to see it
 
Everyone is cracking. Leclerc started criticising Ferrari, Hamilton's (lack of) exchange with Totto at the end was very weird, and I am sure everyone at Red Bull is furious with Checo, it's such a shame Max already has lot of points, as it would be quite interesting until the end.
 
Nah Merc won't let Lewis get ahead of George.
A few races ago I would have said BS, but I am not so sure now.
I dont buy in to, from some that Lewis is past it, he is far from past it and still have a few seasons left in him.
I think the switch to Ferrari has hurt Totoi more than he is letting on, I would not be shocked if it emerged that Lewis was not being frozen out slowly.
 
Almost in time for number 8.
He will have to see if he gets the car to challenge for no8 at Ferrari. Though a Hamilton who knows he's within a sniff of a race win is a different beast.

15 races left in season, you need one person from chasing pack to win at least 8/9 of them. Don't see it happening, they will take points off each other. Max will win the title. Though RedBull may lose Constructors to Perez incompetence.
 
He will have to see if he gets the car to challenge for no8 at Ferrari. Though a Hamilton who knows he's within a sniff of a race win is a different beast.

15 races left in season, you need one person from chasing pack to win at least 8/9 of them. Don't see it happening, they will take points off each other. Max will win the title. Though RedBull may lose Constructors to Perez incompetence.
I agree with this, Lewis was clearly disappointed with his 4th, but would not expect anything else, Russell was faster and that will piss him off.
I see Max winning 8-10 of the remaining races, I see Russell and Lewis getting at least one win each.
 
I agree with this, Lewis was clearly disappointed with his 4th, but would not expect anything else, Russell was faster and that will piss him off.
I see Max winning 8-10 of the remaining races, I see Russell and Lewis getting at least one win each.

That would be good.
Personally, I don't get the general feeling here that Russell is not that good. I think he is very fast but can be error prone because he is trying to drive faster than the car allows.
He is in my opinion about the same as Lando Norris and is potentially a WC.
 
That would be good.
Personally, I don't get the general feeling here that Russell is not that good. I think he is very fast but can be error prone because he is trying to drive faster than the car allows.
He is in my opinion about the same as Lando Norris and is potentially a WC.
Yeah , Russell under pressure can be prone to mistakes, I think Lando is a better driver and I think he will be WC at least once, Russell I am not so sure.
 
Hamilton will win a race this season, Hungary will be a big chance if Merc don't throw away development.
 
Yeah , Russell under pressure can be prone to mistakes, I think Lando is a better driver and I think he will be WC at least once, Russell I am not so sure.

I can well understand that. George Russell has not really had a competitive car since he went to Mercedes. So he has had to overdrive the car. But yes, I do agree with you about Norris.
 
With the way United and Ferrari have hammered in this defeatist attitude into me I can't help but think that even if Newey signs someone else is guaranteed to bring out some monster of an engine in 2026 that will obliterate everything anyway no matter how good their aero is.
 
With the way United and Ferrari have hammered in this defeatist attitude into me I can't help but think that even if Newey signs someone else is guaranteed to bring out some monster of an engine in 2026 that will obliterate everything anyway no matter how good their aero is.
Yeah I still find it hard to imagine Merc will not go back to the front of the pack/has a major advantage coming up with the new regs. Having said that Ferrari has never been particularly weak in either aero or engine performance at the same time (maybe I'm forgetting a period) - but Ferrari is going to Ferrari. Hopefully they ve gotten wiser with all the scandals about (allegedly?) breaking the rules on multiple occasions. If Newey's moral compass is indeed as important as the press makes it out to be then he won't stand for that/be a willing participant - which may be just what Ferrari needs.
 
Yeah I still find it hard to imagine Merc will not go back to the front of the pack/has a major advantage coming up with the new regs. Having said that Ferrari has never been particularly weak in either aero or engine performance at the same time (maybe I'm forgetting a period) - but Ferrari is going to Ferrari. Hopefully they ve gotten wiser with all the scandals about (allegedly?) breaking the rules on multiple occasions. If Newey's moral compass is indeed as important as the press makes it out to be then he won't stand for that/be a willing participant - which may be just what Ferrari needs.
It's rumoured that Mercedes have a very powerful hybrid engine for 2026 and are well ahead in development on that front. However i would add that the elephant in the room is the "moveable aero", that opens and closes on corners and straights. That sounds like a utter nightmare to figure out and has many pitfalls. Adrian Newey is probably still the go to person to make aero like this work effectively.

The saving grace for Ferrari is that none of the regs (bar transmission) are completely agreed so Newey (potentially) joining Ferrari for 2025 season won't be too late for the 2026 car.
 
Yeah I still find it hard to imagine Merc will not go back to the front of the pack/has a major advantage coming up with the new regs. Having said that Ferrari has never been particularly weak in either aero or engine performance at the same time (maybe I'm forgetting a period) - but Ferrari is going to Ferrari. Hopefully they ve gotten wiser with all the scandals about (allegedly?) breaking the rules on multiple occasions. If Newey's moral compass is indeed as important as the press makes it out to be then he won't stand for that/be a willing participant - which may be just what Ferrari needs.
The only time I can remember Ferrari having a terrible engine was 2020, and that was because of the fallout of them using ped's in 2019. You can usually bank on Ferrari to build one of the better engines on the grid. Combine that with Newey aero and it could be a potent combo. I'd still wager on Merc being best placed for 2026 currently however.
 
Anyone watching Le Mans?

First time paying more attention, it's crazy how many cars are allowed on the track.
 


Sainz might have let slip and confirmed the long standing rumours that Antonelli and Bearman are in F1 for 2024.
 
Anyone watching Le Mans?

First time paying more attention, it's crazy how many cars are allowed on the track.

It's about 3 times the size of your average F1 track.

Miles better racing than F1 too with all the manufacturers going there. After 20 hours the top 6 were all in the same camera shot.
 


Sainz might have let slip and confirmed the long standing rumours that Antonelli and Bearman are in F1 for 2024.

Antonelli is unofficially confirmed since the FIA changed the Verstappen rule last week. Where a driver under 18 years old couldn't get a superlicence for F1.

Now there is an exemption clause for FIA to allow drivers under 18 years old into F1 if they are a exceptional talent etc etc.
 
It's about 3 times the size of your average F1 track.

Miles better racing than F1 too with all the manufacturers going there. After 20 hours the top 6 were all in the same camera shot.

Yeah, I know the track very well from Gran Turismo, it's one of my favourite tracks. We actually had a thread about Le mans.
 
F1 News: Adrian Newey Criticizes FIA - 2026 'Heavily Influenced By One Or Two Manufacturers'
Adrian Newey criticized the disproportionate influence of certain manufacturers on the F1 2026 regulations.

https://www.si.com/fannation/racing...nced-by-one-or-two-manufacturers-01j0jsjyb3g0

What manufacturers do we think he's talking about? Not many options here, but one is probably certain to be Merc. Wouldn't be the first time they wield their power like that. Audi coming in as well perhaps? Or Ferrari ?
 
Newey been spied having having secret meetings at Aston.

McLaren and Merc both still think there's an opportunity to get him too.
 
Joe Saward reporting that it’s going to be a busy news day at Barcelona today, so most likely a driver announcement.
 
Newey been spied having having secret meetings at Aston.

McLaren and Merc both still think there's an opportunity to get him too.

De Telegraaf (who broke the Christian Horner story) is reporting that Newey will go to Aston Martin, having been shown around their newly build Campus.

The times now reporting Aston Martin are front runners to sign him.

Adrian Newey: Aston Martin frontrunners to sign F1 design guru
Molly Hudson
Aston Martin have emerged as the frontrunners to sign up Adrian Newey, one of the most respected and successful designers in Formula 1 history.

The Times understands that Newey, 65, has held talks with Lawrence Stroll, the executive chairman of Aston Martin. It is also understood that Newey was recently given a private tour of their Silverstone factory, with the team being keen to keep the move a secret.

Newey, who is seen as a crucial part of the engineering team who have led Max Verstappen to the past three world titles, had become disillusioned at Red Bull in recent months, and announced his departure in May.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/...-secure-newey/10625059/#comments-block-anchor

It has been suggested that Aston Martin's staff were requested to vacate the factory for the duration of the visit in a bid to try to stop news about Newey's visit being leaked out.
 
Weather update. Chances of rain on Sunday.

June 21st
Sunny. High around 79F (26C). Low around 63F (17C). North Northeast winds around 5-10 MPH (8-16 KPH).

June 22nd
Mostly Sunny. High around 81F (27C). Low around 63F (17C). South West winds around 10-15 MPH (16-24 KPH).

June 23rd
Rain showers. High around 74F (23C). Low around 62F (17C). South East winds around 5-10 MPH (8-16 KPH). Chance of Rain 60%.
 
If Newey goes to AM it's an incredibly boring move, Ferrari, Mercedes, McLaren or even a come back story at Williams would be interesting.
 
Williams for me. Feels like Ferrari and McLaren are nearly there anyway. Get Williams back on top.

I would rather see them, Ferrari and McLaren at the front than am, Merc or red bull.
 
Mercedes team member sends out anonymous letter claiming Lewis is being deliberately sabotaged :lol:

TeamLH twitter insanity runs deep.
 
Feck all this newey shite, the real news is Flavio is back in Alpine as an advisor

The circus has another clown to go alongside Bruno Famin.

I imagine with more street circuits on the calendar Flávio is salivating at the thought of another Singapore 08.
 
Feck all this newey shite, the real news is Flavio is back in Alpine as an advisor
Probably to help Alpine get a engine deal seeing as there are rumours they are going to drop out of being a works team.

*Probably incompetence or not wanting to spend the money developing a power train for 2026.