F1 2024 Season

laughtersassassin said:
Tbh all those rumours appear to be coming from one source and that source didn't seem very reliable.

Not saying he won't be fired but don't think the one rumour being passed around by different "journalists" means much.

As far as his guilt goes, I've no idea tbh. I'd lean towards guilty but then there was reports of the messages being tampered with. Do I believe those reports? Not really. But we will likely never have enough info to make a perfectly informed judgement call unless it goes to court.

Anyway at this point the internal struggle likely has nothing to do with Horners guilt or innocence. It simply appears to be a number of different people making moves to gain more power, control and money since Dietrich died.
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Fair point with the one source, most of the stuff I have read is basically saying the same .
The bit in bold is nail on the head I think, he has ruffled many feathers
 
RB are far from pleased with Haas’ Kevin Magnussen and will look to raise their displeasure with Formula 1’s governing body the FIA.

It was a rough outing for Magnussen at the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix after picking up 20 seconds worth of time penalties, though he still played a very important role for Haas and team-mate Nico Hulkenberg, which for RB has proven “difficult to take”.

RB threaten Kevin Magnussen with FIA intervention after ‘unsportsmanlike conduct’ (msn.com)
 
pauldyson1uk said:
Mercedes F1 boss Toto fears that the deficit suffered by the team’s W15 car last weekend in Saudi Arabia is rooted in a “fundamental” issue hiding under the silver arrows’ skin.
Mercedes hints at ‘fundamental’ cause behind W15 deficit (f1i.com)
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Also read somewhere that they have an issue with simulator software... well it has been broken for three years then :lol:

This is why I can't see any of the main title contenders wanted to join Mercedes and it's probably why Lewis is jumping ship.

Post 2021 they're the F1 equilient of United after Fegie left, after seeing what SJR has done with us I am surpised he hasn't done more with Mercedes seeing that he own's a third of it.
 
hp88 said:
Also read somewhere that they have an issue with simulator software... well it has been broken for three years then :lol:

This is why I can't see any of the main title contenders wanted to join Mercedes and it's probably why Lewis is jumping ship.

Post 2021 they're the F1 equilient of United after Fegie left, after seeing what SJR has done with us I am surpised he hasn't done more with Mercedes seeing that he own's a third of it.
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I have to agree, I remember being shocked when Lewis joined them, but clearly he knew what they had.
This season and 2025 I dont see them being anything but 3rd best team, but I have to admit I did not see Lewis leaving for Ferrari.
 
Ferrari is reportedly circling around four high-profile Red Bull engineers in a bid to lure all or several of the latter to Maranello according to the Italian media.

Rumors of Ferrari head hunting top talent at Milton Keynes have been swirling since last year and could significantly impact Red Bull’s engineering department should the Scuderia’s poaching efforts prove successful.

Ferrari reportedly making a play for top Red Bull engineers (f1i.com)
 
hp88 said:
Also read somewhere that they have an issue with simulator software... well it has been broken for three years then :lol:

This is why I can't see any of the main title contenders wanted to join Mercedes and it's probably why Lewis is jumping ship.

Post 2021 they're the F1 equilient of United after Fegie left, after seeing what SJR has done with us I am surpised he hasn't done more with Mercedes seeing that he own's a third of it.
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Merc have come second and third (I think) in the championship the last two seasons and red bull have Newey who is so far ahead of anyone else for ground effect cars, there really isn't much anyone can do against him at the moment.

I would expect one of sainz, Alonso or antonelli to end up at Merc next season.
 
pacifictheme said:
Merc have come second and third (I think) in the championship the last two seasons and red bull have Newey who is so far ahead of anyone else for ground effect cars, there really isn't much anyone can do against him at the moment.

I would expect one of sainz, Alonso or antonelli to end up at Merc next season.
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Any of those 3 would jump at the chance to drive at Mercedes.
 
pauldyson1uk said:
RB are far from pleased with Haas’ Kevin Magnussen and will look to raise their displeasure with Formula 1’s governing body the FIA.

It was a rough outing for Magnussen at the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix after picking up 20 seconds worth of time penalties, though he still played a very important role for Haas and team-mate Nico Hulkenberg, which for RB has proven “difficult to take”.

RB threaten Kevin Magnussen with FIA intervention after ‘unsportsmanlike conduct’ (msn.com)
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If Magnussen was so slow, they should have just overtaken him.

Seriously though, I doubt any further action will be taken. There are no rules against backing up the opposition to benefit a teammate. What I don't understand is, why the stewards didn't just order Magnussen to give back the position after he overtook Tsunoda and went off track? Is that not an option instead of a 10 second penalty?
 
Remember when everyone praised Perez for slowing Hamilton down in Abu dhabi in 2021 by like five seconds in a lap? Or when ocon did it in Monaco?

I see no issue here at all with what kmag did. It wasn't dangerous.
 
pacifictheme said:
Remember when everyone praised Perez for slowing Hamilton down in Abu dhabi in 2021 by like five seconds in a lap? Or when ocon did it in Monaco?

I see no issue here at all with what kmag did. It wasn't dangerous.
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What kmag did was awesome use of strategy. It's the other drivers and pitwall fault for not finding a way through.

Petrov cost Alonso the title in abu dhabi back in 2014 or something like that. Alonso and his pitwall couldn't find a way pass him. It happens.
 
I think we may see a technical directive to raise the height of the cars on health and saftey grounds. Norris has followed Max and Russell saying the cars as they are currently are impacting driver health. Sainz appendix issue was cause by the porposing on the car apparently.

Apparently its going to affect the longevity of driver careers in F1.

Alex Albion spoke to a doctor about a link between porposing - seat lap belts and driver health.

https://racingnews365.com/norris-makes-demand-to-improve-f1-cars
 
dinostar77 said:
I think we may see a technical directive to raise the height of the cars on health and saftey grounds. Norris has followed Max and Russell saying the cars as they are currently are impacting driver health. Sainz appendix issue was cause by the porposing on the car apparently.

Apparently its going to affect the longevity of driver careers in F1.

Alex Albion spoke to a doctor about a link between porposing - seat lap belts and driver health.

https://racingnews365.com/norris-makes-demand-to-improve-f1-cars
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With how bad the racing has been maybe a new set of technical directives need to be drawn up and a move away from the ground effect era again, all the drivers really have been them and the ground is a plank, it's 3 seasons now and there is still problems with it
 
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christy87 said:
With how bad the racing has been maybe a new set of technical directives need to be drawn up and a move away from the ground effect era again, all the drivers really have been them and the ground is a plank, it's 3 seasons now and there is still problems with it
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I think that would be a 2026 onwards re-design. Lifting the current cars floor by 5-10cm would be the simplest temporary solution for now.
 
dinostar77 said:
I think that would be a 2026 onwards re-design. Lifting the current cars floor by 5-10cm would be the simplest temporary solution for now.
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Ironically though wasn't it when Merc and Ferrari ran their cars so low to the ground their plank wear was called into question last year that they were basically also closest to RB? In other words, be careful what you ask for because I have a sneaky suspicion RB can raise their ride height far better than other teams can and it not seriously affecting performance, or at least not in proportion to the loss of performance the others would experience.
 
I think they should raise the ride height if it’s medically proven than the current car regulations are affecting driver health long term; regardless of whoever it benefits and weakens.

From my perspective the Red Bull is just fundamentally a much better car than all their competitors so no matter what you do they’re still going to come out on top.
 
Drivers health should override any performance drops. Regardless of what happens, under these rules, RB will come out on top.
 
newey’s clearly not there for the team culture.
 
rimaldo said:
newey’s clearly not there for the team culture.
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Though in all the interviews ive seen with him thats one of the things he highlights as being a big part of why he is there. I think the media and certain elements feeding them are clearly looking to have fun trying to continuously paint RB as some terrible place to work but thats opposite of the opinion you seem to get when you see chats with all their staff not called Horner. In some ways continued success is worse than mediocrity though bc eventually people get too used to it and stop feeling a sense of accomplishment. Things are weird like that I guess.

Newey in particular though clearly also enjoys the large amount of freedom he gets from RB to work on other projects. Again, just basing it on interviews ive seen with the guy. Feels like he often downplays his work in F1 and talks more about boating and the hypercar as being his main passions.
 
I seriously should start a F1 Twitter account bc apparently there is enough for someone to spin all sorts of bollocks. Like Ferrari or anyone else wouldn't be trying to get him to come at any other time. Like any decent employee being poached in any type of business. Breaking news my ass.
 
In another "news" I learned that Papa Stroll is going to try "everything" to sign Max.

I guess when you have only 10 teams you need to get creative with the shite you invent but this is just random noise.
 
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