Still all to play for 1 point between top 2
10.5 points this week, but just like Lewis I have had a disappointing season
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Ashwin @AR87 are here to discuss two "on-paper" not great results for United over the last week, but are there positive signs of progress despite what the ex-United pundits are saying?
They also preview the big game Europa League game against Lyon.
10.5 points this week, but just like Lewis I have had a disappointing season
I've also had a Perez like season, after winning last year I'm languishing in midfield
Will take that though in return for much more interesting racing
Seems his point is that Russell was pretending it wasn't a big deal afterwards and blowing it off only to then do a 180 in front of the stewards. Like the brother or sister who s ok until Mom and Dad come home and then tries to get you detention. Thats how it came across to me anyway. It doesn't sound like Max took issue with his on track response on the comms.
Piastri saying he really enjoyed the track but as a viewer watching his car and others struggle to overtake in the sprint and full race is disappointing. Once they get to around 7 tenths that's it and gravel time.
Ted Kravitz has just confirmed Ocon has run his last race for Alpine. He's been freed to run a test for Haas. Doohan to run Abu Dhabi race.
Must be hard to grow up where everyone “junior” to you is subservient and then find out that those growing up in western democracy’s don’t give a shit about your entitled opinions.MBS really pissed off hahaha.
He will either be kicked out or there’s gonna be a major spill over this with a new governing body set up.
Max is behaving like Liverpool fans. Top of the pile (in Max's case, already won the fecking title) and yet can't help but play hard done by. It's absolutely nauseating.
Also, if he wants an example of one driver trying to screw another, perhaps he'd do well to remember the brake check on Hamilton in Saudi. Or the countless times he's forced others off the track by "bending the rules". Again, completely nauseating that he behaves like this the moment anyone hits him with the same "win at all costs" mentality that has made him so successful.
look at this dude expecting introspection from anything red bull related.
Christian Horner on Perez: "He knows the pressures of this business, we're going to give him all the support we can until the chequered flag in Abu Dhabi. What he decides to do is going to be his decision".
“he stabbed himself 42 times whilst shaving.”
Ah thanks for clarifying
Esteban Ocon will not race for Alpine at the Abu Dhabi season finale, allowing him to be released to Haas to drive in the post-season test, Alpine have confirmed.
Kimi got a 10 second stop and go pen for not slowing down under double yellows during the race in 2017.
https://www.tntsports.co.uk/formula...ss-yellow-flag-penalty_sto6304991/story.shtml
I remember a few grid penalties when done in quali in recent years. Seems fair what Lando got, spoiled a possible good finish to the GP but safety of others needs a heavy penalty.
https://www.tntsports.co.uk/formula...ss-yellow-flag-penalty_sto6304991/story.shtml
I remember a few grid penalties when done in quali in recent years. Seems fair what Lando got, spoiled a possible good finish to the GP but safety of others needs a heavy penalty.
They really do haunt your dreams don't they.
I agree, it was an odd choice to not penalize for the starting incident in Brazil but the double yellow in this case was about one of the very few clear cut cases for imposing one it seems. Lando not arguing against that one probably tells you everything you need to know. Having said that - he and everyone else should have never been placed in that position to begin with - including those who got the punctures.
Was this answered btw: If the idea from the direction was indeed that they thought no one would take the line where the mirror was placed - why did Bottas go over it as if he was aiming for it? Maybe to tell the race direction they re a bunch of idiots for not having moved it yet? Edit: NM looks like he moved out of the way for other cars but still fascinating how he didn't swerve around it either. If that means it was that hard to see for the drivers that alone is pretty damning for the race direction.
Sounds like their stance is exactly that it wasn't on the racing line and therefore they don't deploy a safety car is understandable to some degree but they should also know that cars may have to move off the racing line at any part of the track for a variety of reasons.
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So a wing mirror being left on the fastest part of the circuit for 4 laps before it was shredded into smaller parts is what then?
Can't tell if that still reads as they're desperate to keep him for the sponsorship money/not to upset Max...
He was doing OK Sunday until the car died, but surely the rest of the season is beyond recall
Bet it's the sponsorship money. They will lose a chunk of prize money by finishing 3rd in constructors.
It's actually genius by Perez, drive so shit that RB have to keep me to make up for the prize money they have lost.
It all makes sense now. He purposely crashed out of the race this weekend bc he realized he was about to get some pts.
if he doesn’t go, i’m going to give up watching next season. the last few years have been tough with the shift to entertainment over integrity. allowing it to become so obviously a middle-eastern play thing would be a step too far.
Somebody tell this joker it's an international organisation, not a theocratic state he's running. I don't see this continuing for much longer.
The car manufacturers need to breakaway with their own series if this happens. It's pure corruption. It's bad enough that we get utterly awful tracks added to the calendar because the higher ups get backhanders ala FIFA
The sport is being ruined. MBS is a utter disaster and needs to go. Who would have thought that Bernie and Max were the leaders the sport needed?
Problem is trying to convince a Ferrari to do the same given their special status in F1. Or at least I presume they are still receiving their heritage bonus. Wouldn't mind seeing another blowup between the teams and F1 to put pressure on the organization but so far it seems like it's mostly drivers willing to lob criticism.
If FOM did breakaway from the FIA surely it would void loads of sponsorship and track contracts?
Also, no more Formula 1, but if the teams moved across the name wouldn't matter.
Also, no more Formula 1, but if the teams moved across the name wouldn't matter.
Takes me back to the regular talk of a breakaway F1 series 15-25 years ago, seemed very close to happening at one point. These days there's so much influence and money that it would have to get really bad for the teams and drivers to walk away.
I really wish billionaires in general would just feck the feck off from sport.
Wouldn't it depend on the commercial rights holder to F1 (Liberty Media) being in agreeance with the breakaway for it to be worthwhile? I'm not sure what prestige a new championship would realistically hold without the name. Add on top of that I'm sure there'll be a multitude of clauses within the track contracts that will protect them.
The FIA as far as I'm aware is just the governing body, and much like in the Max Moseley FIA era I'm sure it's just a play by them to wiggle more power within the F1 gravy train.
The FIA as far as I'm aware is just the governing body, and much like in the Max Moseley FIA era I'm sure it's just a play by them to wiggle more power within the F1 gravy train.
It's not quite that simple. The FIA hold the sporting rights to F1 and Liberty Media the commercial rights. The FIA hold the rights to the name for example.
Simple then: we'll just call it Fast 1
You just know it'd be Formula X
Ahh fair enough! I thought it was the other way around like in BTCC where the naming rights are with the owners of the series regardless of the FIA being heavily involved in the 90's.
If anyone can work out how to get Via play, the following documentary on Max is now available in the UK and US, looks interesting
https://viaplaycontentdistribution.com/title/max-verstappen-anatomy-of-a-champion
His post on Instagram with the picture implies there's other clips on there as well
https://viaplaycontentdistribution.com/title/max-verstappen-anatomy-of-a-champion
His post on Instagram with the picture implies there's other clips on there as well
The concorde agreement, well latest one was signed in 2021 and is due to expire at end of next season. It's a collective negotiation with all the team principals attending as a single bloc. If you ever wanted to bend the FIA over the table with their trousers down, renegotiation of of the agreement is the time.
One item I think will definitely be on the table is the number of races per season.
Ideally they would make the sprints reverse championship standings to make them more interesting and do away with a qually session that isn't really needed. But will never happen.
If anyone isn't aware of what it is...
"The Concorde Agreement is a contract between the FIA, the Formula One teams and the Formula One Group which dictates the terms by which the teams compete in races, and how the television revenues and prize money is shared"
The name F1 is irrelevant without the teams and FOM will go where ever the teams go.
MBS is gone by years end or early next year.
MBS is gone by years end or early next year.
Dutch GP has been confirmed until 2026 , then it’s being dropped apparently.
https://www.skysports.com/amp/f1/ne...-home-race-to-drop-off-f1-calendar-after-2026
https://www.skysports.com/amp/f1/ne...-home-race-to-drop-off-f1-calendar-after-2026
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Basically, FIA's brown envelope wasnt big enough
It was dropped by Zandvoort themselves, maybe some of our Dutch contingent can comment better but the director of the track was hinting that a VAT rise from the government on live tickets will impact them in the long run. Apparently there was plenty of options provided by F1 to keep them (circuit rotation etc) but they said that in order to start to make money at a race weekend then they need 3 full days of attendance.
I only learned today that Zandvoort and Silverstone are the only races on the calendar that don't have any form of funding support from their local government.
I only learned today that Zandvoort and Silverstone are the only races on the calendar that don't have any form of funding support from their local government.
Unless there is a sprint race, struggling to sell out 3 days, but I thought both would be money earners anyway
Bernie used to decry the fact that the Government wouldn't help Silverstone and pointed to how almost every other country helps their track but they did make it work in the end. I like the idea of being sustainable and self sufficient or at least an historic track and large country with the interest in the sport making it work.