F1 2024 Season

Horner shuts down McLaren's Ricciardo claim:
- Christian Horner has refuted the suggestion that Daniel Ricciardo was used to intentionally deny McLaren and Lando Norris the bonus point for fastest lap during the Singapore Grand Prix. The RB driver was pitted on the penultimate lap and secured the fastest lap of the race. However, because he finished outside the top 10, he did not receive the extra point and merely prevented Norris from claiming it.
- Zak Brown questioned the move, highlighting the potential conflict of Red Bull owning two teams, as the late call benefited Max Verstappen in the championship. Due to that intervention, Verstappen can afford to finish second to Norris in each of the final nine races and still win the drivers' title, regardless of fastest lap points.
- Horner denied any accusations of impropriety, stating:
"Racing Bulls [RB] stopped and did the fastest lap at the end of the race. There’s nothing more to it than that."
- Horner further explained:
"Kevin Magnussen would have had it had he not gone wide earlier in the race and he has a Ferrari engine. Every team has its own independence."
- Brown has continued to highlight potential issues regarding Red Bull’s relationship with its sister team RB, especially with two championships on the line. Although not directly responding to Brown’s claims, Horner noted:
"It’s always going to get raised because it’s the same ownership, so it’s inevitable that question’s going to get raised."
- He also pointed out a motivating factor for Ricciardo:
"Remember, he [Ricciardo] gets paid a bonus on a fastest lap."
 
Bin Sulayem thinks FIA isn't getting enough credit: "We only get rubbish"

- FIA president Mohammed Ben Sulayem believes it's "impossible" for the federation to receive the credit it deserves for improvements made in the sport since he became president in December 2021. These include introducing a remote operations centre, launching programs to train and mentor stewards and race directors, and creating a new officials department to support officiating talent recruitment.

- The FIA also implemented a new track limits solution at the Austrian Grand Prix, which seems to have resolved a longstanding issue at the Red Bull Ring and may be used at other circuits.

- When asked if he felt the FIA has received enough credit for solving the track limits problem, Ben Sulayem replied:

"No, we will never get the credit. Impossible. We'll only get rubbish. That I know."

- Ben Sulayem also thinks the FIA deserves more recognition for its financial investments in the sport, explaining:

"When you look at it, everybody made money out of the FIA, everyone except the FIA. Everyone gets the credit, except the FIA."

"It's true. When I took over, we had a running operating cost of minus 20 million. Why? Because we have our income as everybody. But look at the promoters… And good on them and I congratulate them, they are smart enough to do that…"

"But I'll be very, very honest, as always. So Liberty Media did a great job in transforming Formula 1. If you tell me if I could go back in time, would I undo [that]? No way. I wouldn't undo that, but I would just make sure that the FIA is two equals with them."

"They are a good promoter, they are. If you ask me today: is there anyone who is capable as much as them? I can see that [there isn't]. I support them in what they are doing. The FIA works with them in the best [possible] way."

"But then, the regulations and the governance is the [work of the] FIA."

"And then, let everyone make money. Let the drivers have fun, race in a safe way and make money. And let the team principals make more money, [and] they are."

"But the FIA will never get the credit. Impossible."

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Ahmer Baig said:
Bin Sulayem thinks FIA isn't getting enough credit: "We only get rubbish"

- FIA president Mohammed Ben Sulayem believes it's "impossible" for the federation to receive the credit it deserves for improvements made in the sport since he became president in December 2021. These include introducing a remote operations centre, launching programs to train and mentor stewards and race directors, and creating a new officials department to support officiating talent recruitment.

- The FIA also implemented a new track limits solution at the Austrian Grand Prix, which seems to have resolved a longstanding issue at the Red Bull Ring and may be used at other circuits.

- When asked if he felt the FIA has received enough credit for solving the track limits problem, Ben Sulayem replied:

"No, we will never get the credit. Impossible. We'll only get rubbish. That I know."

- Ben Sulayem also thinks the FIA deserves more recognition for its financial investments in the sport, explaining:

"When you look at it, everybody made money out of the FIA, everyone except the FIA. Everyone gets the credit, except the FIA."

"It's true. When I took over, we had a running operating cost of minus 20 million. Why? Because we have our income as everybody. But look at the promoters… And good on them and I congratulate them, they are smart enough to do that…"

"But I'll be very, very honest, as always. So Liberty Media did a great job in transforming Formula 1. If you tell me if I could go back in time, would I undo [that]? No way. I wouldn't undo that, but I would just make sure that the FIA is two equals with them."

"They are a good promoter, they are. If you ask me today: is there anyone who is capable as much as them? I can see that [there isn't]. I support them in what they are doing. The FIA works with them in the best [possible] way."

"But then, the regulations and the governance is the [work of the] FIA."

"And then, let everyone make money. Let the drivers have fun, race in a safe way and make money. And let the team principals make more money, [and] they are."

"But the FIA will never get the credit. Impossible."

VIA: [motorsport]
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Cnut reminds me of Mourinho
 
Ahmer Baig said:
Bin Sulayem thinks FIA isn't getting enough credit: "We only get rubbish"

- FIA president Mohammed Ben Sulayem believes it's "impossible" for the federation to receive the credit it deserves for improvements made in the sport since he became president in December 2021. These include introducing a remote operations centre, launching programs to train and mentor stewards and race directors, and creating a new officials department to support officiating talent recruitment.

- The FIA also implemented a new track limits solution at the Austrian Grand Prix, which seems to have resolved a longstanding issue at the Red Bull Ring and may be used at other circuits.

- When asked if he felt the FIA has received enough credit for solving the track limits problem, Ben Sulayem replied:

"No, we will never get the credit. Impossible. We'll only get rubbish. That I know."

- Ben Sulayem also thinks the FIA deserves more recognition for its financial investments in the sport, explaining:

"When you look at it, everybody made money out of the FIA, everyone except the FIA. Everyone gets the credit, except the FIA."

"It's true. When I took over, we had a running operating cost of minus 20 million. Why? Because we have our income as everybody. But look at the promoters… And good on them and I congratulate them, they are smart enough to do that…"

"But I'll be very, very honest, as always. So Liberty Media did a great job in transforming Formula 1. If you tell me if I could go back in time, would I undo [that]? No way. I wouldn't undo that, but I would just make sure that the FIA is two equals with them."

"They are a good promoter, they are. If you ask me today: is there anyone who is capable as much as them? I can see that [there isn't]. I support them in what they are doing. The FIA works with them in the best [possible] way."

"But then, the regulations and the governance is the [work of the] FIA."

"And then, let everyone make money. Let the drivers have fun, race in a safe way and make money. And let the team principals make more money, [and] they are."

"But the FIA will never get the credit. Impossible."

VIA: [motorsport]
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Sulayem is incapable of processing the fact that viewers and fans don't give a flying feck about who makes what. For spectators it was better when the largest and richest companies on earth were burning money. Reassuring to know the feedback reaches him though.
 
Nobody gives a shit about the FIA, we don't even want to hear from them, ever. I'm sure the money in your bank account is credit enough mate.
 
Daniel Ricciardo’s tenure at RB this season lasted longer than it might have, thanks to the personal backing of Red Bull team principal Christian Horner.

While Ricciardo has now been replaced by 22-year-old Liam Lawson for the remainder of the year, Horner revealed that he worked behind the scenes to keep the Australian driver in the car despite increasing pressure from others in the Red Bull camp – namely Helmut Marko, Red Bull’s motorsport advisor.

Speaking on the F1 Nation podcast, Horner admitted that while he would have preferred to let Ricciardo complete the season, even despite the latter’s inconsistent performances, Red Bull’s need to plan for the future forced the change.

https://f1i.com/news/520733-horner-...zoo2YKRNJtvVZ0N5jA_aem_OjsxzEx4Jq--eqZ04FOFng
 
pauldyson1uk said:
Daniel Ricciardo’s tenure at RB this season lasted longer than it might have, thanks to the personal backing of Red Bull team principal Christian Horner.

While Ricciardo has now been replaced by 22-year-old Liam Lawson for the remainder of the year, Horner revealed that he worked behind the scenes to keep the Australian driver in the car despite increasing pressure from others in the Red Bull camp – namely Helmut Marko, Red Bull’s motorsport advisor.

Speaking on the F1 Nation podcast, Horner admitted that while he would have preferred to let Ricciardo complete the season, even despite the latter’s inconsistent performances, Red Bull’s need to plan for the future forced the change.

https://f1i.com/news/520733-horner-...zoo2YKRNJtvVZ0N5jA_aem_OjsxzEx4Jq--eqZ04FOFng
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When it comes to "news" coming out the Red Bull camp these days I don't often know who even stirs shit up. In some ways the above - even if that's slightly spun - still sounds pretty normal but it's so easy to turn it into something more sinister or dramatic like "Horner wanted to keep Ric, but Marko said NO!"
"More cracks at Red Bull: Horner and Marko have MAJOR disagreement" Etc. etc .

F1 related press so often really seems solely designed to to create more drama and in turn some people in the teams obviously feed into it. The fact we sometimes have relatively long times between races or how few teams of drivers actually create continued public interest just means dead horses get kicked over and over again. I can see why several drivers have spoken out about the mental toll the sport takes on them.
 
Had a tour of the Mercedes factory today. Ridiculous operation they've got going on there, I'm not sure NASA would look much different. Yet its all just to drive a car round a circuit 24 times a year.
 
Red Bull: RB21 will simply be an evolution of the current car

Red Bull does not want to design a completely new car for 2025, but rather develop the RB20 despite current weaknesses

"In this business, you are always juggling and you have to put one foot in front of the other," says Red Bull team boss Christian Horner. "You can't look too far into the future. Long-term in Formula 1 means two and a half months, and what we learn this year is also relevant for next year."

"So next year's car will be an evolution of this year's car. I mean, there are many components from last year's car that have been carried over into this year, because with the way the budget limit works, it doesn't make sense to change anything unless there is a significant increase in performance," says Horner.
 
rimaldo said:
starting to wonder just how successful red bull can be if the fia keep closing all their loopholes. doesn’t look like they’re competitive on an even playing field.
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Does feel as though F1 can’t have nice things because Red Bull keep finding ways to exploit them.
 
RedBull have been caught, being naughty again. Prompting a ride height rule change from this weekends GP onwards....

Red Bull admits it's the F1 team at centre of ride height device probe​


"....Red Bull has admitted it's the Formula 1 team at the centre of the controversy over a ride-height adjustment device that has prompted FIA action ahead of the United States Grand Prix.

As first reported by Autosport, suspicions were raised over the possibility of a team being able to change the height of the ‘bib’ at the front of the car’s floor between qualifying and the race - which should be prohibited under parc ferme regulations - via a device in the cockpit....."

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/...1-team-at-centre-of-ride-height-device-probe/
 
dinostar77 said:
RedBull have been caught, being naughty again. Prompting a ride height rule change from this weekends GP onwards....

Red Bull admits it's the F1 team at centre of ride height device probe​


"....Red Bull has admitted it's the Formula 1 team at the centre of the controversy over a ride-height adjustment device that has prompted FIA action ahead of the United States Grand Prix.

As first reported by Autosport, suspicions were raised over the possibility of a team being able to change the height of the ‘bib’ at the front of the car’s floor between qualifying and the race - which should be prohibited under parc ferme regulations - via a device in the cockpit....."

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/...1-team-at-centre-of-ride-height-device-probe/
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Media and Liberty: we need to create more drama before the US GP. If they indeed changed it under parke ferme there is obviously a pt but every team has access to the same device and extra scrutiny was already in place in Singapore. Didn't seem to change performance. In fact, RB was faster. Makes me think this has potential to be 4d chess and it's really another team using the same and legitimately benefitting.

Sometimes I wonder if the media had been what it was during the 90s and before had been as intense as it is now what all would have made its way into print. People would probably say Senna, Prost, Schumacher etc all benefited from cheating. If any of the big teams at the time had pulled a Brawn too it would have generated so much drama in today's world.
 
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dinostar77 said:
RedBull have been caught, being naughty again. Prompting a ride height rule change from this weekends GP onwards....

Red Bull admits it's the F1 team at centre of ride height device probe​


"....Red Bull has admitted it's the Formula 1 team at the centre of the controversy over a ride-height adjustment device that has prompted FIA action ahead of the United States Grand Prix.

As first reported by Autosport, suspicions were raised over the possibility of a team being able to change the height of the ‘bib’ at the front of the car’s floor between qualifying and the race - which should be prohibited under parc ferme regulations - via a device in the cockpit....."

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/...1-team-at-centre-of-ride-height-device-probe/
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dinostar77 said:
RedBull have been caught, being naughty again. Prompting a ride height rule change from this weekends GP onwards....

Red Bull admits it's the F1 team at centre of ride height device probe​


"....Red Bull has admitted it's the Formula 1 team at the centre of the controversy over a ride-height adjustment device that has prompted FIA action ahead of the United States Grand Prix.

As first reported by Autosport, suspicions were raised over the possibility of a team being able to change the height of the ‘bib’ at the front of the car’s floor between qualifying and the race - which should be prohibited under parc ferme regulations - via a device in the cockpit....."

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/...1-team-at-centre-of-ride-height-device-probe/
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RB suspected of , lets say bending the rules and in other news Rain is wet !
 
There were rumours that Hawk Tauh girl will wave chequered flag...... that turned out to be hoax started by a parody account.
 
South Korea has announced its intention to bring Formula 1 back to the country with a proposed street race in Incheon, near Seoul, by 2026. The country hosted F1 races between 2010 and 2013 at the Yeongam circuit but was removed from the calendar before the hybrid era.
The new plan aligns with Liberty Media's preference for city-based street races, and South Korea’s proposal is seen as a serious effort to rejoin the F1 calendar. With a focus on delivering the urban excitement that modern F1 fans and promoters desire, Incheon could soon host a key race in the sport’s expansion into Asia.


PLEASE no more street races
 
pauldyson1uk said:
South Korea has announced its intention to bring Formula 1 back to the country with a proposed street race in Incheon, near Seoul, by 2026. The country hosted F1 races between 2010 and 2013 at the Yeongam circuit but was removed from the calendar before the hybrid era.
The new plan aligns with Liberty Media's preference for city-based street races, and South Korea’s proposal is seen as a serious effort to rejoin the F1 calendar. With a focus on delivering the urban excitement that modern F1 fans and promoters desire, Incheon could soon host a key race in the sport’s expansion into Asia.


PLEASE no more street races
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Ffs fecking street races man. South Korea would be a great and enthusiastic addition of course but why a street circuit again. Never mind. I know. Money. You know things have truly gone beyond acceptable when they drop several of the European tracks in favor of city circuits. Which sounds like is likely to happen as well. London City circuit instead of Silverstone is coming probably.
 
Another who doesn't want fecking street circuits, most are boring af

South Korea would be a great edition, but why can't we have a normal circuit, or lose one of the cack street circuits if it has to be a street one, and bring back an old school proper circuit
 
Limit on street tracks is a v good idea.
Agreed a London street race will happen sooner rather than later.
Also agree about the new track surface in parts it looks slippy, Lewis is struggling, car looks very low, but get some rubber on the track and times will tumble.
 
Redplane said:
Gotta give you creative pts for always finding new ways to insert your disdain for Max into yet another unrelated post.
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it’s mostly piss-taking. he’s incredibly talented and i don’t think he’s a bad kid, just surrounded by shit people that have done nothing to help him grow as a person.
 
Prediction was hard for this

I hope we get really competitive racing and Red Bull haven't been able to sort their problems

Would be great going into the last race with something to play for
 
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